Changes for Rnd 18 V The Suns

[Go Swannies]

There is no room in the side for TDL. If we select him, we are going backwards, he is far too one dimensional as a small. Give Everitt a full game, and see how he goes, with Parker as sub.

You could say the same about Milne being one dimensional. TDL has a lot of talent and apparently is playing well in the 2s. This would be the best game to see how he'd perform at seniors level.

[Dirtyburt]

Why is Pyke a worry as senior ruck, he played really well when Mummy went off last week? He took the responsibility on his big shoulders and stood tall. He was very good all game last week but seemed to put an even bigger effort in the last half. TRUST Burt he will be more than ok. Done it before and was good.

He is a project that is working. He is not a senior ruckman who can take the centre bounce all game. Simple

[Kirkari]

In the ruck?

Already answered by others, but just to answer. No, obviously not, but I think we can do it with Pyke and LRT in the ruck this week, with maybe a few improvisations here and there in that department. That said, I got a bit excited about the idea of TDL, but if there's any way Parker can be played, he will be, probably as the sub.

[Melbourne_Blood]

He is a project that is working. He is not a senior ruckman who can take the centre bounce all game. Simple

He's a bit better than a 'project' now I believe. Ideally he rucks alongside Mummy, but I think he has shown in the past two weeks he can at the very least hold his own against quality opposition. He beat Mcevoy after Mummy went off IMO, and I rate Mcevoy. I know it's an imperfect system of measuring a players impact, but if you look at Pykes super coach average ( 81) that also tells you he's a bit better than a project. To put that into perspective, Reids is 63 and Joeys is 119.

[Dirtyburt]

He's a bit better than a 'project' now I believe. Ideally he rucks alongside Mummy, but I think he has shown in the past two weeks he can at the very least hold his own against quality opposition. He beat Mcevoy after Mummy went off IMO, and I rate Mcevoy. I know it's an imperfect system of measuring a players impact, but if you look at Pykes super coach average ( 81) that also tells you he's a bit better than a project. To put that into perspective, Reids is 63 and Joeys is 119.

He did well against Mcevoy for a half agreed. I just dont think he is ready to ruck against, cox, jolly etc for a whole game with only LRT as resting ruck. That was my point, which has been lost somewhat with long rambling tirades mentioning every reserve player!!

I also rate pyke btw, just think if both mummy and seaby not fit in finals. Pyke would need both white and LRT to take the load

[Melbourne_Blood]

He did well against Mcevoy for a half agreed. I just dont think he is ready to ruck against, cox, jolly etc for a whole game with only LRT as resting ruck. That was my point, which has been lost somewhat with long rambling tirades mentioning every reserve player!!

I also rate pyke btw, just think if both mummy and seaby not fit in finals. Pyke would need both white and LRT to take the load

Fair point, He's probably not quite ready for that much responsibility just yet, but I trust if it was thrust on him he'd try his big Canadian heart out for the team.

[Dirtyburt]

Fair point, He's probably not quite ready for that much responsibility just yet, but I trust if it was thrust on him he'd try his big Canadian heart out for the team.

Yep, it's what has got us to where we are now. Our 'fringe' players have really lifted pyke, jetta, bird, parker (early season). That combined with a few solid performers moving from solid to elite, Ted, JPK, jack. There has been a lift across the whole team.

Kudos to longmire

[GongSwan]

Already answered by others, but just to answer. No, obviously not, but I think we can do it with Pyke and LRT in the ruck this week, with maybe a few improvisations here and there in that department. That said, I got a bit excited about the idea of TDL, but if there's any way Parker can be played, he will be, probably as the sub.

I'd probably want Parker in the starting team. With Mummy out, the ruck takes care of itself. We do however have to get Parker fit as he will be an in come finals and we want him firing. The GC may be better than last year, but it's stilla a good game to bring him back, give Everitt a ful game in the ressies and maybe Armstrong as sub

[Dirtyburt]

Already answered by others, but just to answer. No, obviously not, but I think we can do it with Pyke and LRT in the ruck this week, with maybe a few improvisations here and there in that department.

Improvisations?

I am sure a few coaches wound love to hear about them! The ruck is the hardest position to cover bar none. You don't contest, you get done, you can have the best midfield going around, you still get done.

I am guessing your forte is not ruck contests?

[longmile]

Improvisations?

I am sure a few coaches wound love to hear about them! The ruck is the hardest position to cover bar none. You don't contest, you get done, you can have the best midfield going around, you still get done.

I am guessing your forte is not ruck contests?

No need to be so aggressive. Pyke and LRT should be sufficient as ruck men against the Suns. Which allows us to cover for Mumford as he has a rest for injury. And it is a chance to reward one of our seconds players who has been performing well week in week out in the reserves, like TDL or bring in Parker. Sounds like a reasonable suggestion to me.

[Dirtyburt]

No need to be so aggressive. Pyke and LRT should be sufficient as ruck men against the Suns. Which allows us to cover for Mumford as he has a rest for injury. And it is a chance to reward one of our seconds players who has been performing well week in week out in the reserves, like TDL or bring in Parker. Sounds like a reasonable suggestion to me.

Aggressive??? Seriously?

No problem with pyke/LRT against the suns. As i have said all along its against quality teams i think they would struggle. I am just wondering what the Improvisations quoted were? It's way of avoiding any real explanation. It's the equivalent of 'let's include TDL, well, just because'

[jono2707]

Improvisations?

I am sure a few coaches wound love to hear about them! The ruck is the hardest position to cover bar none. You don't contest, you get done, you can have the best midfield going around, you still get done.

I am guessing your forte is not ruck contests?

I agree - no need to be so aggressive. It is extremely likely that Mike + LRT will be this week's ruck combo.

Going on the attack like that is a pretty sure-fire way to discourage people from posting here and I don't think is really necessary in this case. Perhaps just toning it down a little would be a good idea. Thanks...

[Dirtyburt]

I agree - no need to be so aggressive. It is extremely likely that Mike + LRT will be this week's ruck combo.

Going on the attack like that is a pretty sure-fire way to discourage people from posting here and I don't think is really necessary in this case. Perhaps just toning it down a little would be a good idea. Thanks...

Gawd, didn't realize I had stumbled onto the junior Sunday school website by mistake! I thought this was a footy discussion board?

An assertion was made that you replace your leading centre bounce ruckman with a one dimensional small forward. This was done in the form of a silly schoolboy song. When questioned the answer was 'with a few Improvisations in that area'

I think it is reasonable to question that nonsense? Should I have done it in a silly song? Would that be less 'aggresive'?

The main thrust if the discussion has been whether we pick a ruck division 'just' for the suns or to prepare for finals. If just suns, a weak ruck will likely suffice. It won't hold up against the finals sides.

Apologies to original poster if you are in fact under 15, otherwise pull your heads in sir galahads

[jono2707]

A simple sorry would have sufficed. After all, civility, like this great website, is free.....

[jono2707]

And FWIW I think Mike and LRT will be fine for this week against the Suns, but for following weeks I would hope that Mummy is back. We have been at our best with Mummy and Mike and will hopefully have that combo for the rest of the season after this weekend...