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  • toothy76
    On the Rookie List
    • Jun 2011
    • 73

    Ben Reid

    The Age in Melbourne has an article today about contract talks with Ben Reid, brother of our Sam, whose contract ends this season. With the Cloke situation taking its time, Reid's discussions have stalled.

    Would we be a chance to steal him? Do we want him? And who or what would we be prepared to trade for him?
  • TPR4
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2012
    • 60

    #2
    While we don't really need another tall defender, someone his age and quality you'd take in a heartbeat. Gun. I'd doubt we'd have anything to give up though, they'd want a high pick and a kid probably, he was AA last year
    Twitter: @tp_rose

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    • wolftone57
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2008
      • 5851

      #3
      I think that we could do a deal with them after the deal we did on Jolly. I think they got off easy with giving us picks 14 & 46 for the top ruckman in the league. Although we did very well out of them Lewis Jetta at 14, traded 39, 46 & 70 for Benny & Joey. So both 14 & 46 came in very useful but still and all the deal looked very much a good one for Colliwobbles. In the end if we give them a similar deal for Ben it would seem fair! Maybe not as good as the Jolly deal after all Jolly was a current 'All Australian'.

      I think there is merit in getting him to Sydney as he would be happier playing here and we do need another tall defender no matter what people think as Teddy will not last forever and LRT is not far off retirement. I would love Teddy to last forever but! It would also give us more depth in that area again even though we are third best in defence maybe we could become the best!

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      • Red
        Foreign Correspondent
        • Jan 2003
        • 651

        #4
        May not be an option much longer ...

        Reid closes on Collingwood deal
        To all those people who waited 72 years to see a South Melbourne/Sydney Swans premiership HERE IT IS!!

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        • Melbourne_Blood
          Senior Player
          • May 2010
          • 3312

          #5
          Another 2 years to take him through to restricted free agency, then up to play with the swannies!

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          • SCGonasunnyday
            Warming the Bench
            • Dec 2007
            • 323

            #6
            How good would it be to have him and Sam in the same Fwd line. Why would you put an AA defender up forward? Because it would be so very cool.

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            • Doctor
              Bay 29
              • Sep 2003
              • 2757

              #7
              Originally posted by SCGonasunnyday
              How good would it be to have him and Sam in the same Fwd line. Why would you put an AA defender up forward? Because it would be so very cool.
              Plus it'd make it really hard for defenders:-

              "I've got Reid, you get Reid."
              "No I'll take Reid, you cover Reid."
              "Who's got Reid?" (two reply at once) "I do!"

              etc
              Today's a draft of your epitaph

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              • wolftone57
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2008
                • 5851

                #8
                Originally posted by SCGonasunnyday
                How good would it be to have him and Sam in the same Fwd line. Why would you put an AA defender up forward? Because it would be so very cool.
                I would definitely leave him down back. Oh by the way him and Sam are in the same forward line at least once a year, ours!

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                • Kirkari
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1036

                  #9
                  Leave Ben in defence and get bookends -it'll make for a good Reid.

                  (Stole it but I like it.)
                  Superman still wears Brett Kirk Pyjamas

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                  • BillyRayCypress
                    On the Rookie List
                    • May 2012
                    • 1379

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kirkari
                    Leave Ben in defence and get bookends -it'll make for a good Reid.

                    (Stole it but I like it.)
                    You can't have a good Reid unless Gemima Grundy and Big Ted are there. A Shaw bet.

                    (I made that up and if you don't like it - doesn't Mattner.)
                    Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6474

                      #11
                      park-er that thought
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • Auntie.Gerald
                        Veterans List
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6474

                        #12
                        im confused on an opposition teams ability to pick up a Reid or Cloke

                        if Ben Reid wants to come to Sydney and we offered him $450k pa and the Pies offered $350k pa.......... does Collingwood have to match the salary we offer if they decide to not release Ben?

                        Ive always been confused about this area - as I understand teams trade players or picks but I have never understood how it works when a player wants to leave because the salary is higher at a new club ? irrespective of trade offers etc
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • DamY
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 1479

                          #13
                          I think that's where restricted and unrestricted free agent comes into play. Restricted means the club has the option to match any offer made by another club, whereas unrestricted means the player can leave whether the club matches the offer or not.

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                          • Beerman
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 823

                            #14
                            No, Collingwood do not need to match the offer. If he is not a free agent and he doesn't like Collingwood's offer then he can go back into the draft and hope that he is picked by us and not Melbourne. (He is out of contract). In practice, he would probably end up at his preferred club as no-one will draft him if they know he doesn't want to be at their club. This is what happened to Luke Ball.

                            If he was a restricted free agent (he isn't), then Collingwood get a chance to match any offer we make, but they don't have to take this chance - they can just let him go in which case he goes directly to us.

                            If he was an unrestricted free agent he could pretty much do what he wants.

                            That's my understanding anyway.

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                            • wolftone57
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 5851

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                              im confused on an opposition teams ability to pick up a Reid or Cloke

                              if Ben Reid wants to come to Sydney and we offered him $450k pa and the Pies offered $350k pa.......... does Collingwood have to match the salary we offer if they decide to not release Ben?

                              Ive always been confused about this area - as I understand teams trade players or picks but I have never understood how it works when a player wants to leave because the salary is higher at a new club ? irrespective of trade offers etc
                              If his contract has run out he can opt to go to another team and his club would look to trade him for Draft Picks or players who are at the buying club. Some clubs might even want remuneration for losing a player in the form of cash. This can only happen if a player is out of contract at the end of the contract period. All contracts end on 31st October but a player is seen to be obligated to his current club until the completion of the National Draft. This means that his club and his potential club can proceed with trade negotiations but not until after 31st October. His agent may have offers from rival clubs for his services but they cannot make them public until after 31st October.

                              A Partial Free Agent can leave the club with no remuneration to the club at all. But if he is a top 10 player &his club matches the offer he has to stay. If he is not a top 10 player he has the right to go anyway. This kicks in at 8 years Service. If a Partial Free Agent who is in the top 10 at a club refuses to stay then the usual negotiations proceed between his club and the prospective club for transfer fees & swaps.

                              A Full Free Agent can go where he wants with no remuneration to the club and has unrestricted movement. This kicks in after 10 years.

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