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  • Swansongster
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2008
    • 1264

    #16
    Really interesting post Magic. I was around and following the Swans then but forgot some of that history. In light of AFL's current investment in expansion, it is amazing that the AFL even considered letting the Swans die. And our history since then also shows what a dumb-arse thing it would have been for them to do so.

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    • jono2707
      Goes up to 11
      • Oct 2007
      • 3326

      #17
      Originally posted by Swansongster
      Really interesting post Magic. I was around and following the Swans then but forgot some of that history. In light of AFL's current investment in expansion, it is amazing that the AFL even considered letting the Swans die. And our history since then also shows what a dumb-arse thing it would have been for them to do so.
      It's also the reason why I am sceptical about the new team sharing Sydney - 20 years may be a while but I am still concerned about the overall strength of the game here in Sydney and I remember the stuff this club has gone through in the past. The AFL now seem to think there are pots of gold over the rainbow out west but most footy teams in all codes in Sydney still struggle to make their way. I never want us to return to the bad old days but I'm not foolish enough to think it can't happen again if the AFL and the Swans aren't very careful.

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      • wolftone57
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2008
        • 5857

        #18
        Yes Jono the NRL clubs have trouble getting fans to the game. But then again the NRL have a culture of watching the games from the club since Fox came in. Many years ago I remember them sitting in the pub listening to the footy on the radio. Now this was a pub in Redfern just around the corner from the Rabitohs ground and they were playing at home. If that was Melbourne and their team was playing at home they would have all been lining up to see the game.

        What the AFL & Sydney have been trying to do is change the culture to a participation culture. Sydney fans of all sport are more likely to be passive receivers of the sport rather than participants at any level. Since Sydney Swans were established the Swans & the AFL have tried to get people involved in going to games and eventually getting their kids involved in playing the game. Kids play all types of sport here but after they leave school this seems to diminish.

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        • ernie koala
          Senior Player
          • May 2007
          • 3251

          #19
          I'm loving the hating....

          I find it funny how over rated they were, and generally are in Melbourne, earlier in the season.

          Then after months of insipid performances, all the lemmings jump off.....

          Now after a couple of wins, the last being a fluke against the lowly Tigers, and they are all talking them up again.

          They are a dud club with a dud team.
          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            #20
            I'm nervous about this game. Carlton still have a lot of quality players in their starting side and are playing for a spot in the eight.

            That said, I can't believe we'd let them beat us, it would put a huge hole in our top two boat, given our draw probably an unpluggable hole.

            With the soft draw Adelaide have and the whopping % of Hawthorn, I reckon we can only afford to drop one game in the run home to get the coveted two home finals. So losing to Carlton (a team I hate with a passion) is not an "option". Losing just one to Hawthorn, Collingwood or Geelong is allowable but only one.

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            • snajik
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 1115

              #21
              I despise them more than Collingwood and I never even thought that that was possible.
              It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
              The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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              • Dirtyburt
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Apr 2012
                • 853

                #22
                Originally posted by wolftone57
                Sydney fans of all sport are more likely to be passive receivers.
                I think that is just a stereotype!

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                • Rod_
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1179

                  #23
                  Originally posted by snajik
                  I despise them more than Collingwood and I never even thought that that was possible.

                  The Pie's are clear leader in this field IMO. Don't like Magpies.. and most of their supporters! However I can understand what you mean about some of the fanatical fans. (Used to like the Bombers a little, however had a bad bunch of supporters behind us at a recent game. Lowered my like value a lot.. LOL) Guess we all have a team we dislike a little and some we dislike a lot..

                  Cheers
                  Rod_

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                  • jono2707
                    Goes up to 11
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 3326

                    #24
                    Originally posted by snajik
                    I despise them more than Collingwood and I never even thought that that was possible.
                    It is not possible!!!

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                    • supersall
                      On the Rookie List
                      • May 2008
                      • 122

                      #25
                      Originally posted by snajik
                      I despise them more than Collingwood and I never even thought that that was possible.
                      It is a moral responsibility to despise Collingwood. Once you acknowledge that, it is much easier on the soul to just plain hate everybody else.
                      I'm not arrogant, I'm right

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                      • Ruck'n'Roll
                        Ego alta, ergo ictus
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 3990

                        #26
                        Originally posted by supersall
                        It is a moral responsibility to despise Collingwood. Once you acknowledge that, it is much easier on the soul to just plain hate everybody else.
                        When I was growing up, Collingwood wasn't the most despised team it was Carlton.
                        Yes Collingwood's fans were rabid frothing-at-the-mouth monomaniacs, but they were relatively harmless because their team was a joke (anyone for Colliwobbles?). It was sleezy arrogant Carlton that kept winning premierships and fueling their supporters arrogance (That they pinched our captain and then our coach still rankles).
                        Unfortunately Collingwood didn't remain a joke, which makes their fans somewhat harder to take. Although I still suspect that Collingwood's transmutation into the leagues most hated team is largely a reflection of the magpie fans zenophobia. Or to put it another way "Everyone hates Collingwood, because Collingwood hates Everyone!"

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                        • Chilcott
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 595

                          #27
                          After reading the article about the near demise of the Swans in 1992, I now understand why I never had any respect for Carlton.

                          I always thought it was a bloke called Fraser Murphy (not Brown) that led me to hate Carlton. Do you remember him - he was a little forward pocket goalsneak that bobbed up now and then to kick goals at the worst of times, i.e. at the end of quarters. Shoot, I disliked that bloke.

                          I will be at Etihad on Sunday and hope we kill them.

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                          • GongSwan
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1362

                            #28
                            Originally posted by jono2707
                            It is not possible!!!
                            It is this week
                            You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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                            • R-1
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 1042

                              #29
                              If you hate Collingwood more than Carlton you're a classist.

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                              • supersall
                                On the Rookie List
                                • May 2008
                                • 122

                                #30
                                Originally posted by R-1
                                If you hate Collingwood more than Carlton you're a classist.
                                Am happy to admit I do like the finer things in life, Carlton is a much nicer place to hang around in than Collingwood.
                                I'm not arrogant, I'm right

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