Adam Goodes

[gossipcom]

There were a lot of poor performers last night - yes Goodes is still not 100% but I get a gut feeling he's copping the flack across the board (not just here but in the media) due to him being the highest profile. Hopefully he'll bounce back next week or the week after and terrorise Hawks again like last time.

[jono2707]

He's not helping my darn Dream Team scores either after bringing him in at a low price a few weeks ago

[timthefish]

yes Goodes is still not 100% but I get a gut feeling he's copping the flack across the board (not just here but in the media) due to him being the highest profile

also because he's nominally the key forward that the rest of the forward structure should be built around. again, i see awesome potential down back murdering key forwards and setting things up.

[BillyRayCypress]

I was watching him run after players and on every occasion he increased speed only to decrease to canter after only a short burst. This is very telling, he is still injured!! He shouldn't be out there and due to the injury his head is not in the right place.

Too much association with Horse.

What does it say if he has to play whilst being injured?

[GongSwan]

Too much association with Horse.

What does it say if he has to play whilst being injured?

Says he's seen as a better option than anyone in the 2's, against lesser teams his presence is intimidating, but against Collingwood, not so much

[Melbournehammer]

It is quite sad. From 2006-2009 or so goodes was head and shoulders above any other player on the field during our annual defeats by the pies. And he played in midfield where he burst past players.

Currently he is trying to do too many perfect passes by foot or hand - each week he misses players who are in space. He can't chase out of defence and hasn't most of the season.

I just think that the decision of the club to try to make him into a key forward has taken away from the strengths he had and our desperate need for a functioning forward line (seriously if you ask any other club, player or supporter in Australia whether lrt worries them as a forward they just laugh at you) has left us with a goodes whose strengths are being wasted and we simply don't get the compensation from it.

We can only and have only won games this season through our midfielders kicking goals. From the stats I have seen he has played 13 games this season for 25 goals -playing as a key forward.

Which he basically is not.

[grarmy]

....the unavoidable truth is that he is an absolutely rancid set shot for goal...

It has been the one telling flaw in his game during the past decade. Brilliant on the run, great skills but prone to finessing and as far as set shots are concerned, oh dear.

[ernie koala]

I think ROK agrees with those who think Goodes is a lousy set shot.

He went off at the umpire for not giving him the free, (which it should of been)...

He wanted that shot bad...and boy o boy, I wanted him to take it too, along with many many others.

Goodes strode back to the mark, obviously wanting to do the captain thing and kick the goal.

He should of put his ego aside and immediately given the ball to ROK...he's a much better set shot...

That would of been the team, and captain, thing to do....IMO.

[Jeffers1984]

clearly injured. Probably won't see him back to his best by next year.

That @@@@ing quad injury.

[wolftone57]

Yes agree definitely injured. Couldn't get into 3rd or 4th gear just stuck in 2nd. Every time he tried to speed up he had to ease back. The Pies players knew this too and they were playing off him and making him chase. At times he didn't and just stood there while TDL matched his player as well as his own, not good from the Captain. Id you are injured Adam do the team thing and make yourself unavailable for selection!!!!! You can put it over on the physios but not on the fans who see the games and watch you reaching for your hammy at least once a quarter.

[AnnieH]

He had a bad game.
@@@@ happens.

Leave Goodesy alone.

[Big Al]

Goodes gets plenty of plaudits when he goes well and when he goes poorly he deserves criticism. To be honest the criticism is fairly subdued with most excusing the performance due to injury. Light years away from what I was saying during the match I can tell you.

[Cressakel2]

Goodesy will be back this year, mark my words. Not playing to his high standards, still reckon he has a slight niggle from the corky in the buttocks. No doubt will fire up for the last couple of games and finals. Will also be better next season with Rohan and Reid (and another forward with height) as his forward line sidekicks.

As for either O'Keefe, LRT or anyone else taking the set shot from the free kick, spare me...ROK is and has been the worst set shot for goal at the Swans in the last 10 years. Every time ROK has a set shot I cringe. I suggest his record would lucky to be around the 40-45% conversion from set shots. LRT was in the same camp until recently.

The only fantastic set shots at the Swans are TDL (rarely misses), Kennedy (never misses) and lately LRT. The rest are 50/50 at best.

On another matter, Sammy Reid will take at least another 3-4 years to blossom. Reminds me of Tom Hawkins, who took years to believe in himself. Reid is in the same camp, plus he needs time to build his strength. Hawkins was a brute from day one.

[magic.merkin]

Jude Bolton goes all right from a set shot

[dimelb]

Goodesy will be back this year, mark my words. Not playing to his high standards, still reckon he has a slight niggle from the corky in the buttocks. No doubt will fire up for the last couple of games and finals. Will also be better next season with Rohan and Reid (and another forward with height) as his forward line sidekicks.

As for either O'Keefe, LRT or anyone else taking the set shot from the free kick, spare me...ROK is and has been the worst set shot for goal at the Swans in the last 10 years. Every time ROK has a set shot I cringe. I suggest his record would lucky to be around the 40-45% conversion from set shots. LRT was in the same camp until recently.

The only fantastic set shots at the Swans are TDL (rarely misses), Kennedy (never misses) and lately LRT. The rest are 50/50 at best.

On another matter, Sammy Reid will take at least another 3-4 years to blossom. Reminds me of Tom Hawkins, who took years to believe in himself. Reid is in the same camp, plus he needs time to build his strength. Hawkins was a brute from day one.

I haven't checked the stats, but I think O'Keefe has a pretty fair conversion rate over the past two seasons or so. And once he got over his 19 behinds, Jetta has emerged as a very good set shot. Jude is another who seems to have picked up since playing forward more often.