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  • mcs
    Travelling Swannie!!
    • Jul 2007
    • 8161

    #16
    Originally posted by Melbournehammer
    I think it's too late to change the team now. I really would have preferred last week or this to have played Morton on the ground to see whether that made the forward line more effective. It has been obvious all season that we don't have one that will kick multiple goals. We have an awesome goal kicking midfield, but another scorer might help the team - for no other reason than giving the others space.
    So we must rely on the structure that got us here. If it fails in the finals then coaches should be criticised for decisions during the year. If it succeeds then kudos to them !
    Yep thats a pretty decent call. Still I think our biggest failing in our forward line is that too often our forwards all lead to the same place. Like in the first half of the earlier game this year, Hawthorn played a loose man in defence for most of the night, and when your forwards all lead to the same area all the time, it makes it far too easy for that loose man to affect the contest. We need the boys, especially Reid/Pyke/Mumford/LRT to work more on leading away from each other where possible. Open up the forward line so that when teams play that loose man, he has to committ one way or the other, thus giving us the opportunity sometimes to get better 1 on 1 contests. The few times we managed it tonight, it worked well. But too often, the two main forwards at the time end up leading to the same area, leading to 3 on 2 situations occuring far too often.
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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16757

      #17
      Pyke and Reid certainly need to learn to talk to each other. There were a few times on the wing when they both flew for a mark. I suspect either one could have / would have taken it had they not spoiled each other, and even if not, the other would have been on their feet to gather the spilled ball.

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      • Reggi
        On the Rookie List
        • Jan 2003
        • 2718

        #18
        I think Longmire should have given the likes of Jetta, AJ, Hanners, a week off later in the year, they are clearly tiring. Will they come up for the finals?

        I think we should drop LRT but we won't
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        • Jeffers1984
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 4564

          #19
          Originally posted by liz
          Pyke and Reid certainly need to learn to talk to each other. There were a few times on the wing when they both flew for a mark. I suspect either one could have / would have taken it had they not spoiled each other, and even if not, the other would have been on their feet to gather the spilled ball.
          How frustrating was that? I counted at least 3-5 times they spoiled each other when one was in great position to mark. Hopefully they review that on the tape.

          My concern is the lack of small crumbing forward again in the forward line. We generate so many inside 50s especially when our tails are up however we still don't get enough reward for effort. We just need someone at the bigs feet. LRT is not a great one on one mark lets face it. He can't outmuscle his opponent so more often than not the ball will be on the ground after his contest.
          Jude being back will definitely help this i hope or perhaps it's time for Jetta to play some time at Reid/LRT's feet considering how ineffective he is atm.

          It's a shame that Morton will probably get dropped as he has done some very clever things in his 2 substitue cameos.
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          • Alan
            On the Rookie List
            • Mar 2012
            • 156

            #20
            In: Bolton, Everit
            Out: Morton, Jetta

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            • Melbournehammer
              Senior Player
              • May 2007
              • 1815

              #21
              You simply can't drop Jetta. He increase our pace and forces other teams to play someone on him. It's like dropping goodes whose form has been poor for the past four to five weeks and who twice last night refused to kick with his left foot when no more than 20 metres out. Further he usually pops up with a goal a game and often an assist or more. He mightn't be strong in the tackle but then lrt isn't a strong mark.

              To be honest I'd be looking for more pace in this team and one less tall. Jude isn't that answer but he will provide another marking target.

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              • dendol
                fat-arsed midfielder
                • Oct 2003
                • 1483

                #22
                Originally posted by Alan
                In: Bolton, Everit
                Out: Morton, Jetta
                No thanks.

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                • mcs
                  Travelling Swannie!!
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 8161

                  #23
                  How can anyone possibly want to drop Jetta. I know his form is down on earlier in the season, and I was as critical as anyone else at the ground for some lazy efforts last night, but he is such a key outlet to us. The expansive, coast to coast footy with Jetta running onto it might not have been working as well over the last month, but I'd hate to think that we got caught in an open, end to end contest (which to me is a definite possibility next week against Geelong) and suddenly find that we don't have Jetta there to take advantage of it. He will learn from being tagged recently and will improve - show some faith in one of our young stars people!
                  "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                  • swansprincess
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 306

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    OUT: LRT or Pyke
                    IN: Bolton

                    We are just too top heavy in the forward line. I can see playing 4 tall forwards if they were all great, but we need another more natural forward and midfielder type up front. We are the only team I think that has such a tall forward line, and one that is only effective against weaker teams. Nothing against either Pyke or LRT. I think they have both been doing fine, but the structure is not right. If we think Pyke and Mummy are our answer to Cox and Natinui, fine, but then LRT has to go out.
                    That actually makes a lot of sense. I'd agreed with dropping parker, purely because someone has to go for Bolton to come in and I think we need a forward like Morton to stay and be able to give some real leads to add another option, instead of just kicking it long and hoping. But this seems smarter.

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                    • BillyRayCypress
                      On the Rookie List
                      • May 2012
                      • 1379

                      #25
                      I think we should drop Bird.

                      Looking at the Cats ferocious attack, he won't have a chance.
                      Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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                      • The Big Cat
                        On the veteran's list
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 2354

                        #26
                        Originally posted by BillyRayCypress
                        I think we should drop Bird.

                        Looking at the Cats ferocious attack, he won't have a chance.
                        Bird annihilated Mitchell for most of the game!
                        Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                        • joemoore12
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 284

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Alan
                          In: Bolton, Everit
                          Out: Morton, Jetta
                          Excuse me Alan...Are you on drugs?

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                          • bloodsman
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 54

                            #28
                            Jetta efforts at the contested ball were very ordinary at times of late but he is a vital cog in our team. If he doesn't play or doesn't play well we might be in trouble. Got to stick with him and hope he finds his feet in the finals.

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                            • Wardy
                              The old Boiler!
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 6676

                              #29
                              Sadly Jett's doesn't deal well with being tagged. I love him and when he gets on a run it is breathtaking to watch but in the last few weeks he has been heavily tagged and shut down (and I'm ready to be yelled at by some as a result ) last night was lethargic and lazy. Now there have been posters in the past who have yelled from the rooftops if a player is out of form for a period of time then give him a spell. Maybe jetts should be rested for next week or made sub for the cats game so Morton can be on for the full game. It's just a thought.
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                              • Matt79
                                Bring it on!
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 3143

                                #30
                                Changes for 23 v the Cats

                                Jetta has been playing injured with his knee which has hampered his pace and influence sadly. I like Wardy's suggestion. Give Morton a full game v Cats and start Jets as sub to give him a partial rest. Other option is too simply tell Jets to play as a crumbing forward as we a long kicks regularly coming to ground yesterday we need someone at Reid and co's feet.
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