Time to bring back Jesse White...

[Nico]

Yeah, he'd definetly offer more than LRT against good sides. LRT went completely missing during our games against good teams.

Wouldn't be allowed to carry LRT's sports bag.

[Dirtyburt]

Wouldn't be allowed to carry LRT's sports bag.

He would drop it, too heavy

[Scottee]

You know that's completely unfair on Jesse. Hawkins was playing with arguably the best midfield in the comp and drawing the third best tall defender after mooney, pods, etc. white on the other hand only started getting the second best defender this season and towards the end of last season.

For those of you who hate him go back and have a look at two of our better recent wins - Carlton final ans Geelong at Geelong.

His cards have clearly been marked - either he has agreed to go somewhere else or there has been a falling out - but he has always offered more as a forward ruck than lrt. Lrt offers more versatility and is clearly a better defensive tall - ie his job is to spoil his tall defender - Scarlett, Taylor etc, or to tackle them once it hits the ground.

In reality neither is much good and our strategy all season of bombing long to a contest has never given either of them any real opportunity to mark on a lead - but that is obviously the game plan.

I am over this debate but I am sick of the criticism that gets hurled his way. Go and watch the Richmond game and it is clear that our midfield got destroyed by them - but he and seaby were the scapegoat for that. And sure maric won on the day, but so did Cochin, deledio, houli, Martin, riewoldt, etc etc etc

I also think Jesse is of value if selected. Its easy to forget the difference he made to the forward line early on in his career at the Swans and the fact that he has kicked more goals in a reserves game than any other player than I can remember (12 goals) and has kicked 3 or 4 on several occasions in the seniors. The fact that he has played well as a lone ruckman in the seconds for so long seems to have improved both his stamina and his mental application. His ability to bust packs is undoubted and he is very good on the ground, making up for being ordinary in the air. He will certainly occupy a key defender and on a good day kick 2 or 3.He is bigger and stronger than LRT and is a 10 times better kick at goals that Tommy W. He stands out as a really strong option except for the fact that it seems , as you suggested, MelbourneHammer, there has been a falling out with the coaches or he has agreed to go elsewhere at the end of the season.
I hope for the best and that he has not decided to go elsewhere because he is one of the better 3rd ruck/forward options in the competition. Especially if his stamina and mental application have improved.

[bodgie]

"He would drop it, too heavy"


Too much hair product

[Ludwig]

If Jesse were an 18 y.o. playing in the NEAFL, he would be talked up like a possible number one draft pick. Physically he would be compared to Jonathon Brown. With his size and ruck domination the pundits would be saying he is perfect for the new Ruck Forward role so hard to find these days. The only problem is that he's taken 6 years to get to this stage, and you have to wonder if he has any improvement left in him.

He's the sort of player that's hard to play in the seniors and hard to delist. You just live in hope.

[Triple B]

Its easy to forget the difference he made to the forward line early on in his career at the Swans ....

No, it's not easy to forget, in fact it's the very reason most of us have found him so bloody frustrating over the past few years when he's continually produced SFA when given his numerous chances in the seniors....

[Dirtyburt]

"He would drop it, too heavy"


Too much hair product

No just weak as piss

[Dirtyburt]

No, it's not easy to forget, in fact it's the very reason most of us have found him so bloody frustrating over the past few years when he's continually produced SFA when given his numerous chances in the seniors....

Spot on

[ernie koala]

Horse gave up on him months ago...he's right at the bottom of the pooh queue.....No chance.

[Dirtyburt]

Horse gave up on him months ago...he's right at the bottom of the pooh queue.....No chance.

Yep, hope his drawings are good...

[stellation]

Nah heart of a pea, no work ethic, bye bye time

This opinion of him, and you're certainly not alone on it, I do question. As a recent example, the guy has rucked for pretty much 5 games on the trot without a break in the reserves, and has been named in the best each week- to me that's someone who has a heart and is showing some work ethic.

[stellation]

No, it's not easy to forget, in fact it's the very reason most of us have found him so bloody frustrating over the past few years when he's continually produced SFA when given his numerous chances in the seniors....

I thought he was fine in each of his games in the seniors this season as the backup ruckman, certainly better in my eyes than LRT was to that point.

[Auntie.Gerald]

LRT for Grundy in the backline and Jessie for LRTs role

Reid back with Goodes in the forwards and pyke and Mummy rotating up front/ruck

[Dirtyburt]

I thought he was fine in each of his games in the seniors this season as the backup ruckman, certainly better in my eyes than LRT was to that point.

As a recent example every time he has played seniors he has shirked contests. I think the neafl might be his go.
Too soft for senior afl footy, abjectly refuses to use his size in contests

[Triple B]

I thought he was fine in each of his games in the seniors this season as the backup ruckman, certainly better in my eyes than LRT was to that point.

Last game of 2009 v Brisbane at SCG he played FF against Lachie Henderson. He made Henderson look totally second rate, marking at will and even running around him on the mark on more than one occasion and goaling from 50.

It's been 3 years since then and he hasn't come close to reproducing that game. Came close in the 2010 game against Hawthorn at the SCG when he decided to throw his weight around, TDL was the beneficiary of a few split packs via the crumbs.

I think the disappointment lies in we thought we may have unearthed a hidden gem at the end of the draft, but unfortunately his output has been pretty much what you could reasonably expect from a player taken in the 70's/80's.