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  • Hartijon
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2008
    • 1536

    #16
    Originally posted by hot potato
    Maintain composure, cool heads win finals. Play in front, play the ball.
    Don't give away silly frees. Kick truly.
    = Historic win for Sydney.
    And play for the full time with desperation.Never assume you can or cannot win it until the final siren blows.Never ease off! Stuff ups lose the game .Remember Ablett in 2005.We were so lucky that didn't cost us the Flag.

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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8149

      #17
      Originally posted by The_Jam
      God-damn, I am excited by this game!

      I am very new to AFL and therefore know very little but I have a few thoughts on the keys to Friday's clash:

      1. As has been said, clearances are important. In the round 20 match, the AFL.com site says swans lost the clearances by 10 (51-41) despite winning hit outs (48-68). Coll did not have Swan either. So I think the first thing we need to is bring up the clearances (or lower Coll's clearances).

      There are other options. The other way we have won the ball this year is intercepts around the defensive fifty, and rebound. The problem with the intercept model is that it was build on Jetta's run and carry through the middle. And while I think he has been alright(better then most people seem to have him), taggers have put themselves between him and the goal a lot in the second half of the season and this cuts off his run. That, or just denied him the ball full stop. Also, being rebound heavy requires a very high disposal efficiency, which versing Coll in a final, I wouldn't want to rely on. The other side to the clearances is that, despite the fact that our defense can repel a @@@@-load of inside fifties, any defense struggles if it is coming in straight from the center. So clearances are king in this game. That being said, if we both win clearances and intercept well, we are devastating. This is what was happening for 3/4 of the Essendon game.

      2. Another thing I think we need is possessions by Goodes and Jetta front of center. When these guys have possessions in our attacking half, we score. If they are outside the fifty, they usually put the ball into a dangerous area. Or inside, Goodes creates with speed and strength and Jetta can kick them from anywhere or by getting goal side. I think they will also have good enough delivery to lessen Ben Reid's impact on the game, and lessen Coll's rebound.

      3. Finally, we need Jude and Morton to play small. Both of these guys can lead, mark and goal. And if that is available, yippee! But I would bet that the ball will be coming inside 50 under a lot of pressure. We need someone to crumb and apply a tonne of forward defensive pressure. Jude can do this. And Morton looked to me to be up for it. It is the 'messy' kind of goals that are going to win this game, I reckon.

      If it was not clear from the post, all this can be taken with a big dose of IMO,

      Go Swans!
      For someone new to the game, that is pretty spot on analysis I think! Point 3 is key - it doesn't necessarily have to be Jude, could be Parker or a few other of the midfielders who can rest up that way. Most importantly for us in that is the defensive pressure. We have to make every black and white feral defender accountable and under pressure. Do not let them rebound under any circumstances.... especially Harry O'Brien and Goldsack, who are likely to be chief outlets in the absence of Maxwell. We need them to feel under pressure every time they get the ball and rush their attempts at rebounds. Do that, like we did to Adelaide in week 1, and whilst they may rebound, invariably the results are much easier for our defence to deal with.
      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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      • Dave
        Let those truckers roll
        • Jan 2003
        • 1557

        #18
        The way I see it is that if we come away with a win, we are a red hot chance against the Hawks.

        This is exactly the test the boys need. If we can't beat the pies on Friday, we were going to be no chance against the Hawks.

        What will be, will be.

        It can be done.
        "My theory is that the universe is made out of stupidity because it's more plentiful than hydrogen" - Frank Zappa

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        • ash3
          On the Rookie List
          • Jan 2008
          • 195

          #19
          Swans: Just win.

          I will take all the loses we have had in a row against these clowns just for this one win. It makes up for it more than 10 fold.

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          • Wardy
            The old Boiler!
            • Sep 2003
            • 6676

            #20
            To the boys - believe in yourselves like we believe in you and anything is possible. Stand tall , play hard, play fair - take it all in, never give up. This is indeed greatness we are about to witness. Just give it a red hot go!!!! Love & hugs Wardy x(multiplied by 30 - including coaching staff etc) oh yeah I forgot to add GO SWANS!!!!
            Last edited by Wardy; 19 September 2012, 05:45 PM.
            I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
            Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
            AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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            • dimelb
              pr. dim-melb; m not f
              • Jun 2003
              • 6889

              #21
              Always bear in mind that your own resolution to success is more important than any other one thing.
              - Abraham Lincoln
              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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              • Jeffers1984
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 4564

                #22
                Pressure the @@@@ out of them....give them a taste of their own medicine.
                Settle our nerves early and get the ascendancy.

                Help out Teddy as much as you can Grundy especially if Dawes doesn't come up.

                This is our time...cmon swans!
                Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.

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                • Swansinger
                  Senior Player
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1099

                  #23
                  Don't worry , Baz - I guarantee you , Shaw and Reid will be on the winning side

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                  • Swansongster
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1264

                    #24
                    Originally posted by The_Jam
                    God-damn, I am excited by this game!

                    I am very new to AFL and therefore know very little but I have a few thoughts on the keys to Friday's clash:

                    1. As has been said, clearances are important. In the round 20 match, the AFL.com site says swans lost the clearances by 10 (51-41) despite winning hit outs (48-68). Coll did not have Swan either. So I think the first thing we need to is bring up the clearances (or lower Coll's clearances).

                    There are other options. The other way we have won the ball this year is intercepts around the defensive fifty, and rebound. The problem with the intercept model is that it was build on Jetta's run and carry through the middle. And while I think he has been alright(better then most people seem to have him), taggers have put themselves between him and the goal a lot in the second half of the season and this cuts off his run. That, or just denied him the ball full stop. Also, being rebound heavy requires a very high disposal efficiency, which versing Coll in a final, I wouldn't want to rely on. The other side to the clearances is that, despite the fact that our defense can repel a @@@@-load of inside fifties, any defense struggles if it is coming in straight from the center. So clearances are king in this game. That being said, if we both win clearances and intercept well, we are devastating. This is what was happening for 3/4 of the Essendon game.

                    2. Another thing I think we need is possessions by Goodes and Jetta front of center. When these guys have possessions in our attacking half, we score. If they are outside the fifty, they usually put the ball into a dangerous area. Or inside, Goodes creates with speed and strength and Jetta can kick them from anywhere or by getting goal side. I think they will also have good enough delivery to lessen Ben Reid's impact on the game, and lessen Coll's rebound.

                    3. Finally, we need Jude and Morton to play small. Both of these guys can lead, mark and goal. And if that is available, yippee! But I would bet that the ball will be coming inside 50 under a lot of pressure. We need someone to crumb and apply a tonne of forward defensive pressure. Jude can do this. And Morton looked to me to be up for it. It is the 'messy' kind of goals that are going to win this game, I reckon.

                    If it was not clear from the post, all this can be taken with a big dose of IMO,

                    Go Swans!
                    Burt? Burt? Where for art thou Burt? Is that you? If so, I like your new humble self. If not, keep the Jam coming.

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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665

                      #25
                      Originally posted by dimelb
                      Always bear in mind that your own resolution to success is more important than any other one thing.
                      - Abraham Lincoln
                      Always thought you looked like an Abe!!

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                      • top40
                        Regular in the Side
                        • May 2007
                        • 933

                        #26
                        I would love a Swans Premiership in 2012, who wouldnt. I just get that feeling that THIS Preliminary Final is the game we are all wanting to win, badly. I sense a great deal more excitement for this PF than the previous ones in 96, 03, 05 and 06.

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                        • hot potato
                          Sir Ashmole Gruntbucket
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 1122

                          #27
                          The Boys have gone higher and better than most of us expected this year.
                          So they they can just go out and enjoy themselves in the Prelim against The Pies . If they go even higher with no pressure we will all be ecstastic to see them in another granny.
                          No pressure, just have fun boys.
                          "He was proud of us when we won and he was still proud of us when we lost' Tami Roos about Paul Sept 06.

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                          • Rod_
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1179

                            #28
                            We must also dump the 3/4 hand pass's to a free player game plan this week also.. The pie just pick us off when we do that consistantly

                            Rod_

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              #29
                              Originally posted by hot potato
                              The Boys have gone higher and better than most of us expected this year.
                              So they they can just go out and enjoy themselves in the Prelim against The Pies . If they go even higher with no pressure we will all be ecstastic to see them in another granny.
                              No pressure, just have fun boys.
                              I think you missed the point of my opening post.

                              High pressure. Dont let this goldern opportunity slip.

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                              • Dooloo
                                Warming the Bench
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 160

                                #30
                                When ever l think of Friday night, I keep thinking of a saying that goes around in my head.

                                "We are all in control of our own destiny"

                                This is a win, i have that 2005 feeling in my bones again.
                                You Just Do Not Get a Better Grand Final Win Than That

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