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  • royboy42
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2006
    • 2078

    #16
    Bet Jetta is happy to have to have the same team..licence to run!!

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    • Triple B
      Formerly 'BBB'
      • Feb 2003
      • 6999

      #17
      Originally posted by royboy42
      Bet Jetta is happy to have to have the same team..licence to run!!
      Rosebury was doing a pretty good job keeping up chasing Jets and Brown. I reckon he was too buggered to put the whistle to the mouth to pull him back...
      Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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      • Reggi
        On the Rookie List
        • Jan 2003
        • 2718

        #18
        Jetta did not break rules. It is defined as 15 steps, he never took 15 steps in between bounces. A long strider
        You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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        • iigrover
          Warming the Bench
          • Sep 2005
          • 245

          #19
          Originally posted by Reggi
          Jetta did not break rules. It is defined as 15 steps, he never took 15 steps in between bounces. A long strider
          Unfortunately not. Jeff Gieschen spoke about the goal in this week's review with the umpires here... It's Your Call - AFL Finals Week 3 2012 - YouTube and confirmed its 15 metres, not steps. I suspect the umpires will focus on it more in tye GF.

          Interestingly, he confirmed all the incorrect calls in Hawks/Crows game favoured the Hawks. With only 5 points the difference its pretty clear why the umpires from that game were dumped.

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          • Reggi
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 2718

            #20
            Originally posted by iigrover
            Unfortunately not. Jeff Gieschen spoke about the goal in this week's review with the umpires here... It's Your Call - AFL Finals Week 3 2012 - YouTube and confirmed its 15 metres, not steps. I suspect the umpires will focus on it more in tye GF.

            Interestingly, he confirmed all the incorrect calls in Hawks/Crows game favoured the Hawks. With only 5 points the difference its pretty clear why the umpires from that game were dumped.
            Yep never trust SEN again
            You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11339

              #21
              Originally posted by desredandwhite
              Meredith is a shocker. Chelsea made one brilliant decision and one howler last weekend. Good on her for getting the gig though!
              Yes that well behind the line touch by Tarrant was woeful. Still can't work out why they didn't call for the review. But they love her down at AFL House and she was probably inked in well before last week, purely for publicity reasons. After all she was on OTC not long back.
              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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              • Nico
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 11339

                #22
                Originally posted by Nico
                Yes that well behind the line touch by Tarrant was woeful. Still can't work out why they didn't call for the review. But they love her down at AFL House and she was probably inked in well before last week, purely for publicity reasons. After all she was on OTC not long back.
                Just saw the video. It was behind the line regardless of the padding. The overhead shows that. Just covering their backsides. By the way that decision by the umpire 100 metres behind the game goes to show that the umpire in the area should be the only one making the decision, apart from behind the play infringements.
                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                • 2005magicmoment
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 40

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Reggi
                  Jetta did not break rules. It is defined as 15 steps, he never took 15 steps in between bounces. A long strider
                  Reggi mate, it's 15m - same distance as the minimum for a mark.

                  AFL Law 15.2.2 (b) - 2012 lawbook


                  (b) Where a Player is moving whilst in possession of the football, the Player must bounce or touch the football on the ground at least once every 15 metres, irrespective of whether such Player is running in a straight line or otherwise.

                  As an aussie rules umpire myself in district/junior footy, the easiest way is to count the steps which is usually 10-12 steps depending on the size of the player.

                  And if you do watch the video of his goal (it was pretty cool, still) he took about 17 steps between one of the bounces.

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                  • Beerman
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 823

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Triple B
                    I thought they had a pretty good game the other night and there were very few complaints that I could see either way. I think we were lucky to get the HTB on Pendles early and it looked like LRT pushed Reid in the back before marking (and missing).
                    It was very tough on Pendles. Ironically, O'Keefe is usually on the receiving end of that kind of call. (I yell at the TV set every time). Overall was a good game by the umps though - a very low free kick count.

                    Giesh's comments on Jetta's goal were interesting. I would think that whatever is said in public, the umpire in question would not be copping too much stick in private. No-one wants the umpires "adjusting" the rules on the fly but if ever there was a case that was it.

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                    • Triple B
                      Formerly 'BBB'
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 6999

                      #25
                      I've been watching footy for a long time and I'm sure plenty of others here are in the same boat.

                      I reckon you just KNOW if somebody has run too far. You don't need to count steps, don't need to step it out, don't need to measure it, you just know.

                      As Dennis Denuto would say, "It's just ... the VIBE ... of the thing.

                      I guess I was too busy screaming my lungs out at the time, but I never got 'the Vibe' during Jets' run...
                      Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                      • BRISWAN
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 304

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Triple B
                        I've been watching footy for a long time and I'm sure plenty of others here are in the same boat.

                        I reckon you just KNOW if somebody has run too far. You don't need to count steps, don't need to step it out, don't need to measure it, you just know.

                        As Dennis Denuto would say, "It's just ... the VIBE ... of the thing.

                        I guess I was too busy screaming my lungs out at the time, but I never got 'the Vibe' during Jets' run...
                        Tell "em " their dreaming!!!!!!!

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                        • Northern_Swan
                          Sweet home Novacastria
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 530

                          #27
                          Watch the 15m call be the rule of the week in the granny, as the deliberate oob has been at times this year

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                          • RogueSwan
                            McVeigh for Brownlow
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 4602

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Mike_B
                            ... For the Smith kick, she was in perfect position and no vision I have seen of it has been conclusive, which means there would have been no overturning of the decision, so the behind would have stood even if referred.
                            I don't think she was in the perfect position. She did not "straddle" the line evenly, she was a bit behind the line. If she believed that she was centred over the line of course she would have called "touched", but she wasn't perfectly centred and it was, IMHO, the wrong call.
                            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                            • Meg
                              Go Swannies!
                              Site Admin
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 4828

                              #29
                              Originally posted by RogueSwan
                              I don't think she was in the perfect position. She did not "straddle" the line evenly, she was a bit behind the line. If she believed that she was centred over the line of course she would have called "touched", but she wasn't perfectly centred and it was, IMHO, the wrong call.
                              If you watch the video discussion in "It's Your Call" (posted above) what they say is that she was in fact in perfect position because the rule is that the whole of the ball has to be past the back of the padding on the post for it to be a goal. That is why she is not positioned straddling the line which would be too far forward.
                              Last edited by Meg; 26 September 2012, 07:47 PM. Reason: Typo

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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16773

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Meg
                                If you watch the video discussion in "It's Your Call" (posted above) what they say is that she was in fact in perfect position because the rule is that the whole of the ball has to be past the back of the padding on the post for it to be a goal. That is why she is not positioned straddling the line which would be too far forward.
                                It is actually a bit of a stupid rule. Why don't they draw a line on the ground to indicate where the back of the padding ends? Surely that would make things a lot easier to judge?

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