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  • Big Al
    Veterans List
    • Feb 2005
    • 7007

    #16
    Re: Swans and Hawks to feature in pride game?

    Originally posted by ScottH
    There is nothing more divisive than putting a label on any group of people.
    I hate Stereotypes... All the people who stereotype are all weird looking and they smell funny.
    ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

    Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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    • GongSwan
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2009
      • 1362

      #17
      With Sydney overtaking San Francisco as the gay capitol of the world, they might wanna have the game at Homebush as we mioght pull a big crowd with a game labelled as such
      You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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      • DamY
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2011
        • 1479

        #18
        Swans and Hawks to feature in pride game?

        Originally posted by ScottH
        There is nothing more divisive than putting a label on any group of people.
        Sorry, I don't really understand where you're coming from. Do you mean like having sub categories, such as L@SS? Black Swans?

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        • Wazza
          Regular in the Side
          • May 2004
          • 805

          #19
          Originally posted by ScottH
          There is nothing more divisive than putting a label on any group of people.

          So your saying i shouldnt use "feral Collingwood supporters" ? maybe they are feral proud

          Cheers

          waz

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          • Velour&Ruffles
            Regular in the Side
            • Jun 2006
            • 897

            #20
            Why does the AFL hate disabled people so much? We have rounds for women, for gays, for traditional rivals and for indigenous Australians. Not having a handicapped round seems like a calculated insult to me. You bastards.
            My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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            • dimelb
              pr. dim-melb; m not f
              • Jun 2003
              • 6889

              #21
              Originally posted by Velour&Ruffles
              Why does the AFL hate disabled people so much? We have rounds for women, for gays, for traditional rivals and for indigenous Australians. Not having a handicapped round seems like a calculated insult to me. You bastards.
              You are forgetting Richmond.
              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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              • ScottH
                It's Goodes to cheer!!
                • Sep 2003
                • 23665

                #22
                Originally posted by Wazza
                So your saying i shouldnt use "feral Collingwood supporters" ? maybe they are feral proud

                Cheers

                waz
                OK. Some groups deserve the labels they are given.

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                • goswannie14
                  Leadership Group
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 11166

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Velour&Ruffles
                  Why does the AFL hate disabled people so much? We have rounds for women, for gays, for traditional rivals and for indigenous Australians. Not having a handicapped round seems like a calculated insult to me. You bastards.
                  What about a round for hetrosexual anglo-saxon males?
                  Does God believe in Atheists?

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                  • Big Al
                    Veterans List
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 7007

                    #24
                    Originally posted by goswannie14
                    What about a round for hetrosexual anglo-saxon males?

                    Don't we do enough for minorities already??
                    ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                    Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                    • R-1
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 1042

                      #25
                      Re: Swans and Hawks to feature in pride game?

                      Originally posted by Velour&Ruffles
                      Why does the AFL hate disabled people so much? We have rounds for women, for gays, for traditional rivals and for indigenous Australians. Not having a handicapped round seems like a calculated insult to me. You bastards.
                      There isn't much for footy to say specifically on that front. Whereas homophobia, sexism and racism are all things which are issues within footy.

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                      • Primmy
                        Proud Tragic Swan
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 5970

                        #26
                        Originally posted by ScottH
                        There is nothing more divisive than putting a label on any group of people.
                        That's my point but better and more concise. Thanks for the insights everyone, and some of the more weird observations. Noteworthy is the fact that redandwhiters haven't said 'no' to the idea, at least out loud (don't hang me, a few of you would know what I mean).
                        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                        • Xie Shan
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2929

                          #27
                          Originally posted by dimelb
                          You are forgetting Richmond.
                          Nice one

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                          • DamY
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 1479

                            #28
                            Swans and Hawks to feature in pride game?

                            Originally posted by Primmy
                            That's my point but better and more concise. Thanks for the insights everyone, and some of the more weird observations. Noteworthy is the fact that redandwhiters haven't said 'no' to the idea, at least out loud (don't hang me, a few of you would know what I mean).
                            I don't see how having a round highlighting or commemorating something is so offensive or divisive. What is the AFL's connection to war, these days? Why commemorate ANZAC? Just a question. Don't get me wrong, I think our armed forces do a lot for us civilians but as much as football is "like" war, it really isn't. These feature rounds are common in sport, I personally don't mind celebrating women's and indigenous involvement in AFL but that's just me lol

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                            • Yuri H
                              That One Over There
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 588

                              #29
                              As a red-and-whiter of somewhat pink persuasion (don't get me started on how much I hate the colour pink; I think Eastern Europe does it better with considering light-blue the 'gay' colour for some reason) I'm glad to hear about this - even if it means dragging myself out to ANZ (grumble grumble).

                              I know in an ideal world there'd be no labels, no need for subcultural/ethnic/gendered 'prides', but we're a far way off from an ideal world. And while I have never, ever felt less than welcome or ever felt looked at 'differently' by RWOers here or in person - always been treated as just another fellow pathologically-Swans-obsessed fanatic, there have been moments at games when I've been reminded of the attitudes of a significant (albeit shrinking, we hope) segment of society when I hear really hurtful homophobic words being used to 'taunt' the opposing team on the field shouted virtually into my ears from a row or two back. And hearing the beyond-teasing outright hatred in the tone of the words used, believe me I felt very very uncomfortable.

                              So yeah, I've had times of feeling distinctly unwelcome (or conveniently invisible) at the SCG or ANZ. It does mean a lot to me to have the Swans (well, yeah, and the Hawks and AFL in general) take a moment to go out of their way to make me & my friends & fellow tribesfolk feel like we're just as much a part of the supporter base as everyone else.

                              Most importantly, we'd better win the game.

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                              • DamY
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 1479

                                #30
                                Swans and Hawks to feature in pride game?

                                Originally posted by Yuri H
                                As a red-and-whiter of somewhat pink persuasion (don't get me started on how much I hate the colour pink; I think Eastern Europe does it better with considering light-blue the 'gay' colour for some reason) I'm glad to hear about this - even if it means dragging myself out to ANZ (grumble grumble).

                                I know in an ideal world there'd be no labels, no need for subcultural/ethnic/gendered 'prides', but we're a far way off from an ideal world. And while I have never, ever felt less than welcome or ever felt looked at 'differently' by RWOers here or in person - always been treated as just another fellow pathologically-Swans-obsessed fanatic, there have been moments at games when I've been reminded of the attitudes of a significant (albeit shrinking, we hope) segment of society when I hear really hurtful homophobic words being used to 'taunt' the opposing team on the field shouted virtually into my ears from a row or two back. And hearing the beyond-teasing outright hatred in the tone of the words used, believe me I felt very very uncomfortable.

                                So yeah, I've had times of feeling distinctly unwelcome (or conveniently invisible) at the SCG or ANZ. It does mean a lot to me to have the Swans (well, yeah, and the Hawks and AFL in general) take a moment to go out of their way to make me & my friends & fellow tribesfolk feel like we're just as much a part of the supporter base as everyone else.

                                Most importantly, we'd better win the game.
                                Well said

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