Bazza worried about Kirk ?

[Auntie.Gerald]

I wonder if Baz was also worried about Brent Staker ?

Hall: I was frightened | AFL Live, AFL Scores, AFL Results | Fox Sports

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[annew]

Thought he was bull @@@@ting actually, as I don't think he even liked Kirk at the end.

[goswannie14]

Gee, how judgemental are we???

I thought it was an honest assessment. Although not knowing exactly what Hall was asked makes it hard for us to really make a call on what he is saying.

[Auntie.Gerald]

he did seem earnest.........but i couldnt help but immediately think of BBBB also dishing out exactly the same dose of concussion !

The inflicter of concussion.

luv bazza but geeeeeessssseeee what you have to do for a TV show sometimes makes me feel a little squeamish

[jono2707]

I thought it was an honest answer from Bazza. The Swans have had a few particularly hard at it players recently, such as Kirky and Jude, so it was a fair question to ask and Bazza gave a pretty up-front response.

[GongSwan]

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[Auntie.Gerald]

I thought it was an honest answer from Bazza. The Swans have had a few particularly hard at it players recently, such as Kirky and Jude, so it was a fair question to ask and Bazza gave a pretty up-front response.

jono not sure if you got my point.

If it was an honest answer on concussion why not talk about himself dishing out to others and not just talk about Kirk ?

If I was Kirk I would be saying hey dont put the spotlight just on me .........what about you being the perpetrator ?

[teddys mum]

After the prelude of comments I was expecting something a bit more controversial from Bazza. I wouldn't know whether what he said was true or not of course, but it sounds quite probable and didn't seem to be about sticking it to anyone. Regarding Bazza dishing it out to opposition players, I think Bazza's point was more about how regularly Kirk would be concussed, not just one offs - I doubt Bazza would know if players from other teams were serially concussed (as was the inference about Kirk).

[Nico]

I can see Gerry's point of view. I wonder if the likes of Hall and Matthews have any pangs of the conscience about the people they belted. Matthews is in my mind the biggest thug to play the game from the 60's onward. I believe Bernie Evans was twice sent to la la land by LM with hits after the contest. One at Princes Park where Bernie had marked the ball and had brought the ball down to waist height, when hit fair to the jaw by the little thug, was a cowardly act. Would have got a long stretch nowadays for that. A dog of the first order. I wonder if Peter Giles is in the group who are going to be tested. Who can forget Mathews turning sideways at a boundary throw in to smash Giles to the head way off the contest. I wonder if Giles has taken a beeline to his doctor after this stuff has come out. Was it Barry Cable that Mathews slugged on the wing in an interstate game? Anyone else wish to add to the little mongrel's hit list.

[Primmy]

The question put to BBBB was in relation to Kirky specifically.

It is well known that the doctors knew when Kirky was off line because he became quite aggressive and his behaviour was out of character. He spent a fair bit of time apologising for his this once he had recovered. Apparently there was never any doubt when Kirky was concussed. And it must have been very disconcerting for some to see how out of it their team mate was. He probably should have been sidelined for longer, but that was based on five/ten years ago knowledge, not on current medical indicators.

We can't keep vilifying BBBB - he has moved on, and its time we did too. Not that I have totally forgiven him, but I am more or less willing to judge him as he is now. If Kirky would trust him with his kids even in amongst the worst of it then who am I to judge. Not happy with some of his statements since then, but.....let the man grow.

[jono2707]

jono not sure if you got my point.

If it was an honest answer on concussion why not talk about himself dishing out to others and not just talk about Kirk ?

If I was Kirk I would be saying hey dont put the spotlight just on me .........what about you being the perpetrator ?

The majority of concussions are caused by accidental/incidental contact with the head in the normal course of play. Certain players seem more prone to them, and often they're the head over the ball types like Kirky. It was a very valid question and Bazza answered it as a former team-mate and in the context in which it was asked.

I'm with Primmy - I quite like Bazza now and am thankful we had him...

[Auntie.Gerald]

hhhmmmmm a concussion is still a concussion not matter how you slice it

[goswannie14]

hhhmmmmm a concussion is still a concussion not matter how you slice it

Yes.

BUT, Hall was asked about Kirk. Nothing else.

For him to answer about other stuff would be like many of the threads on here.....heading off on a tangent.

[Wardy]

Had it have been anyone other than Bazza asked the question - we wouldn't be discussing it. Baz Was asked a question - he answered it straight up - had Kirk have been asked you would have got a whole buch of new age crap that makes no sense. (just waiting for the Kirk lovers to jump up and down now)

[Auntie.Gerald]

he wasnt asked a question live it was staged

he was given a heads up pre show like Mooney was and only gave half the truth re concussion.........the elephant was in the room........ hence i raised the matter on the thread.......and both journo's didnt go there which is quite amazing for two journo's that would pride themselves on asking the tough questions.......especially Robbo.

I love the game..... I played it all my life...... but now as an adult and as a parent i can see that thugs and hero's both contribute to the demise of ones health when it comes via the the actions of concussion.

Kirk the hero battered his own brain

Bazza the thug battered other peoples brains

To be fair Bazza was nothing compared to Lethal or Dippa or many others but it only takes one hit......maybe not the first but if Bazzas hit on Staker was the 6th received in a career and it was the 6th and final concussion or facial blow that was the one that lead to Staker having to retire via medical advice