Challenges season 2013

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  • Jewels
    On the Rookie List
    • Oct 2006
    • 3258

    #16
    Wow, no offense but that's what I call a glass half empty post!

    Losing Johnson was a blow but (unfortunately) these things happen and we have to move on. How about feeling a little bit of excitement at the opportunity this gives an Armstrong or Rampe?
    Of course there are players who are twelve months away from really being AFL ready, but that applies to every team across the league. I'm sure there were plenty of us that had those thoughts a few years back about AJ, Parks and Hanners and I for one was stunned at what they showed when given the opportunity, how do we know this isn't going to happen with Towers, Membrey Dick etc?
    And are you really bemoaning and questioning the trading/ delisting of Laidlaw, O'keefe (talk about injured all the time), Vez and Johnston? Sorry but none of these players ever really took the bull by the horns when given senior opportunities and I was the biggest Vez fan in the land!

    Sorry I don't mean to attack you, we all think differently about these things, but to be thinking we are going to struggle more than two weeks before a Sherrin is kicked in anger just amazes me. If we aren't on top of the ladder after round two then by all means voice a concern but now???

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    • Big Al
      Veterans List
      • Feb 2005
      • 7007

      #17
      Re: Challenges season 2013

      I have no idea how we'll go or whether we'll struggle. Maybe by Rd1 I'll probably form an opinion but right now I'm still living in the past and enjoying 2012. You never know when we'll win another one so I'm eeking out every bit of enjoyment I can.
      ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

      Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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      • ShockOfHair
        One Man Out
        • Dec 2007
        • 3668

        #18
        Unfortunate though AJ's injury is, but we will likely only be missing he and Rohan, and maybe Mattner, from Round 1. Not a bad start to the year.

        Compare that to the Pies' melodramas, or those clowns in India. Do we know them?
        The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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        • BillyRayCypress
          On the Rookie List
          • May 2012
          • 1379

          #19
          Big Al and I were talking football on Saturday night as there was no gatorade lady to admire.

          We should also note that a half season break for KT will help significantly after the three episodes of concussion last year.
          Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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          • wolftone57
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2008
            • 5835

            #20
            Originally posted by Primmy
            The biggest challenge in my opinion is whether the younger boys can get their minds back to Game One 2013 mode, and not rely Last Game of 2012 mode.

            The 2005 and 2006 Granny players will have a better grip. But I do place a lot of respect and trust in our leadership group to push everyone past this (even some redandwhiters).

            there is another factor I consider to be a plus. the number of new kids on the block who are kind of ready to go will probably act as a red light alarm to any complacency that may surface. Knowing there is someone ready to step into your shoes is a great motivator.
            I think we have also recruited players who have had success at junior level or Reserves level. Towers, Lloyd, Parker, Hannas, AJ, Marsh, Mitchell, Lamb, Membrey if I remember rightly fit into this category. Maybe more others do too. It is interesting how many players who had success at junior level or reserves lavel play in premierships. they often will change sides to do so because they recognise an attitude at the other club that is reminiscent of their junior club that their current club doesn't have.

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            • wolftone57
              Veterans List
              • Aug 2008
              • 5835

              #21
              Originally posted by chuckie
              12-18 months down the track we may have a better list but right now we may struggle.
              No Tippett till Rnd 13
              Rohan doubtful all season
              Johnson out all season
              Mitchell who knows seems to always be injured
              Brown as above
              Dick,Marsh & Membrey 12 months away
              Lamb & Towers are they any better in March than what Laidlaw, O'keefe, Vezspremmi & Johnston were.
              Walsh doubtful
              Cunningham looks ok.
              It leaves a lot of pressure on the remaining guys on our list.
              Chuckie I watched towers and thought he was pretty good and Lamby was pretty good too. they are both getting there and aren't far from a seniors start. Rampe and Armstrong are there already. Jesse is showing quite a bit more than he has in the past, basically following on his form in the Two's last year. Membrey really didn't play much, same with Marsh & Dick. Mitchell is just about ready and they are taking it easy with him deliberately because young players with soft tissue injuries need special handling (slow recovery). Lockyer is a little off the pace because of his lack of footy in the last I must admit as is brown being injured yet again. Rooster will be back and he will play but when is the question. It may not be until next season.

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              • wolftone57
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2008
                • 5835

                #22
                i was just watching the Swans v Saints and got to the part where Benny kicks to young Jakie Lloyd. Then what do I get but pregame crap from the Collingwood game and all techo behind the scenes stuff. you are crap AFL.com. i don't know who is doing your tech stuff, whether the replays come from Foxtel or not but they are very ordinary in content and quality. I would consider that last quarter of the Swans v Saints game as one of the techo stuff ups of all time.

                enough of that. I want to take Chuckie to task a little. I don't know if you have had a good look at that game (or the three & a bit quarters you could). Armstrong, Towers, Lamb, Lloyd, Rampe, Cunningham and Jack were not overwhelmed by the contest at all. Shane Biggs showed a bit at times but still a bit raw. Remember, Jack, Rampe, Lloyd, and Biggs are all rookies. The saints only played one rookie as far as I know. Lockyer is very much out of touch after 12 months virtually out of the game (I think 2 or 3 games for resies). We didn't play Membrey, Marsh, Dick, Naismith, Richards, Robinson, Brown, Walsh & Mitchell, some through injury. Armstrong, Jesse & Drey all had pretty good games. We still have rooster and Tippett to come back if Rooster manages it this season. i think we are in pretty good shape. The talent is obvious and we are still underdone. I am feeling sorry already for the NEAFL teams that have to play our mob because there is huge talent in our juniors.

                So to be honest I don't agree with you. We took out gold Coast in easy style and still have plenty to come back. Even though we are still fading in games this will improve as the season goes on as our fitness develops. We are a very talented and dedicated club from the President down the line. Everybody is given a job to do and carries out the wishes of President, Management or Coach, depending what part of the club they work for. this is why we are a successful club and believe me if they had any doubts about the playing list the players who are doubtful don't stay long. Last year several players moved on and are now playing either for other AFL clubs or in other leagues such as the SANFL. This is why we are successful. Our recruiters pick out the best prospects and our coaches develop them and if they can't quite crack it make a recommendation to release them. We have recruited very well and we have several players who are ready to come in now, Rampe, Lloyd and Towers. Add Lamb, Cunningham, Armstrong, Drey and Jesse stepping up and we are well taken care of until Tippett gets in the mix.

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                • wolftone57
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 5835

                  #23
                  I forgot to mention Luke Parker is becoming our Sam Mitchell. What a player.

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                  • baskin
                    Long Term Injury List
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 286

                    #24
                    Originally posted by wolftone57
                    I forgot to mention Luke Parker is becoming our Sam Mitchell. What a player.
                    No... Luke Parker is OUR Luke Parker.

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                    • wolftone57
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 5835

                      #25
                      Originally posted by baskin
                      No... Luke Parker is OUR Luke Parker.
                      Yes indeed Baskin but he does play a similar style to Mitchell is all I am saying, maybe a little cleverer and faster.

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                      • liz
                        Veteran
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 16736

                        #26
                        He is quicker than Mitchell, but that's not hard. Even Brett Kirk was quicker than Mitchell. But cleverer? Mitchell is one of the smartest midfielders going around (in a football sense, not an academic sense). Parker has a huge way to go to even warrant being compared to Mitchell in terms of demonstrated footy nous.

                        I must admit I see very few similarities in the styles of Mitchell and Parker. They are both inside mids and both blonde but that's about where the similarities end as I see it.

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                        • Melbourne_Blood
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2010
                          • 3312

                          #27
                          Challenges season 2013

                          The only swan who reminds of me Sam Mtchell is Tom Mitchell, that's from what limited vision of I've seen of Tom. Parker, I dunno, maybe a bit of Joel Selwood ?

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                          • Ludwig
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9359

                            #28
                            Maybe you're right about the Joel Selwood comparison. Both are pretty good kicks for goal as well as doing all the hard stuff.

                            With all the emphasis on speed, it's quite remarkable just how good some 'slow' players are, like the few mentioned on this page.

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                            • dimelb
                              pr. dim-melb; m not f
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 6889

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              Maybe you're right about the Joel Selwood comparison. Both are pretty good kicks for goal as well as doing all the hard stuff.

                              With all the emphasis on speed, it's quite remarkable just how good some 'slow' players are, like the few mentioned on this page.
                              Indeed. Bird comes to mind.
                              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6474

                                #30
                                the funniest video footage recently was Joel Selwood and Mitchell chasing for the ball..........and both so slow in the contest that Selwood dived forward at Mitchells knees so he could win the race
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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