Dermott Brereton you are a dickhead

[Doctor J.]

Listen to this and you'll know why

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Cannot believe the hypocrisy of this idiot.

[crackedactor]

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Cannot believe the hypocrisy of this idiot.

This comes from an idiot that stomps on the head of a Hawthorn reserves player. If he got him in the temple he could have killed him. When he played a year for the Swans, that when I refuse to follow the swans. When Matthew Scarlett does a toe poke he is a hero, I believe that is all Goodes was trying to do. If it was true what Brereton said" he did that deliberately" then Gibson just has to crash into Goodes leg with his body and that would be the end of Goodsey's season. I have often seen him do that little toe poke just to clear the ball away from a contest. This time it came late.

[annew]

He is still sooking over the grand final, and needs to move on. Swans won, Hawthorn lost the end.

[GongSwan]

Where was Derm when Gazzas leg was broken?

[Doctor J.]

Where was Derm when Gazzas leg was broken?

Not 100% sure but likely to be in the camp of "Thomas did nothing wrong, just going for the ball"

[Ludwig]

DB's definition of courage is someone that takes a cheap shot at another player and is willing to take one in response. He's still living in the last century.

1. Players are encouraged to keep their feet.
2. Both players are going for the ball on their feet.
3. Neither player is going to ground (as they have been instructed to do under these circumstances).
4. Goodes gets his foot in just ahead of Gibson. It could have easily been the other way round.

Anytime the ball is between 2 players going full tilt to get there first there is a risk of injury due to collision of some sort. The AFL has done everything to try to get players not to make high contact and not to dive at the ball and make contact with your opponent's legs. It's exactly these situations that AFL has made incredibly difficult to negotiate.

Derm's recommendation is that Goodes should lower his shoulder into Gibson's head and take his chances that if Gibson does the same he comes out better in the contest. Don't worry about head high contact and getting suspended for 3 weeks. Lindsay Thomas went head first at the ball the last year and broke Gary's leg. But for Derm that act of 'bravery' is the way football should be played.

Maybe he said something about Buddy headlocking Ottens the week before and then driving his head into the ground; if he did I didn't hear it. Talk about a cheap and dangerous act. But that would be more Derm's style of play.

I don't know what audience Brereton is playing to, but I guess Goodes bashing is popular in Melbourne. It was a really low and despicable cheap shot at a great and fair player. Sure he's made a few mistakes, but not many considering the number of games he's played.

[Panttz]

Are you serious Ludwig? How can you possibly say that Goodes kept his feet?

Goodes was frustrated and was playing recklessly, very lucky he is playing this week. Even luckier that he didnt snap Gibsons leg in two.

[liz]

Are you serious Ludwig? How can you possibly say that Goodes kept his feet?

Goodes was frustrated and was playing recklessly, very lucky he is playing this week. Even luckier that he didnt snap Gibsons leg in two.

I think the answer lies somewhere in between. I think it was "kicking in danger" and should have been a free to the Hawks. But I do think Goodes was genuinely trying to get his boot to ball.

The speed at which the game is played is such that players - all players - have to make split second decisions. They don't have the benefit of watching their actions multiple times, including in slo-mo, before they act. They have to just act. Sometimes they get it wrong and pay the price with a week or two suspension. We need that system to try to encourage players not to be reckless. But the number of truly cheap shots or malicious actions that players perform is miniscule. It irritates me no end when commentators - during games and during the seemingly endless analysis through the following week - decide that some players are dirty or crude for split second decisions that go wrong. And yet for others they decide "I don't think that player is malicious" in an attempt to downplay an action that deserves a short spell (eg Fyfe last week). It's not that I disagree that those players' actions weren't malicious, just that it shouldn't need to be said because the overwhelming majority of suspendable actions are not malicious.

Witness the AFL360 crew labelling Goodes as a crude footballer last year when he was suspended for his knee slide during the Port game. I don't have an issue with the suspension if that is an act the AFL wants to discourage. But Goodes and Surjan went to ground in almost identical fashion and at the same time while the ball was in dispute and there was no way Goodes was trying to hurt Surjan - he was just competing for the ball and got there second.

[Ludwig]

Are you serious Ludwig? How can you possibly say that Goodes kept his feet?

Goodes was frustrated and was playing recklessly, very lucky he is playing this week. Even luckier that he didnt snap Gibsons leg in two.

If you look at the replay, he stayed on his feet and only went down when he made contact with Gibson. Yes, it was a dangerous situation, but what else was Goodes to do except commit some other foul or pull out of the play completely. I am saying that the rules now make that sort of situation very difficult to judge. We are talking nanoseconds to make a decision. Plus Goodes has got Duryea also contesting the ball from the other side. Pretty difficult dealing with a situation where you have players coming from all directions. He was in a very difficult spot. The biased commentators exaggerated the blame on Goodes because Gibson go injured in the play and everyone else jumped on board.

Dermet Brereton made the big issue about Goodes being frustrated. I think that's reading a lot into what's going on in the mind of the player. I am really trying not to be biased here just because we are talking about one of our own. Personally I didn't see any of that. Just a player making an attempt to make a play at the ball, that didn't look that great on the slow mo replay.We should take into account that Goodes often tries these toe pokes as an effective play on the ball that he is quite good at due to his soccer background.

Some also thought there was bias at the MRP because they too didn't see malice in the play. This protected species crap never seems to end. The Melbourne audience just love it.

[boroboy]

He is still sooking over the grand final, and needs to move on. Swans won, Hawthorn lost the end.

Spot on - his cockiness before the GF, and subsequent sulking after the game was pathetic. Mixed feelings about Dermie now - he's horrendous on the TV as a host (League Teams), but on the radio / TV commentary, he's the best special comments man by a mile - always giving you something thoughtful.

[magic.merkin]

Bla Bla Melbourne Bla Bla. Protected Species. It was dangerous, he has form and unfortunately he seems to be in these situations more than most. We got lucky, and so did Gibson. It wasn't preety to watch, and wasn't received well at a pub I was at with mostly Neutrals. I don't think he's dirty or lacking courage in any circumstance. Just bad choices.

What should Adam have done? I can only think Bump his backside. But as said, it was a split second decision.

On Dermott, well as said his special comments etc are great. I really like his footy insights. I just think he is too close to Hawthorn. Also he acknowledged his past actions. Doesn't excuse them, just said he was aware of them when making comment. I took issue with his guess work on Adam's mental state and courage at certain times.

[baskin]

The description from the AFL site said he was obviously trying to toe poke the ball. Also, the ankle Gibson hurt was not the one everyone thought Goodsey made contact with. He rolled his other ankle!!Could go on but I'm over it.

[magic.merkin]

Of course he was trying to toe poke the ball. You can try to kick the ball when someones head or hands are near it, doesn't mean its the correct choice if it makes contact to the player.

[Adelaide Swan]

I've lost a lot a respect for Brereton. He's starting to sound very bitter.

[dimelb]

John Longmire weighs in:
Brereton cops heat for attack on Goodes