Changes Round 14 v Carlton

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  • chalbilto
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2007
    • 1139

    #76
    Originally posted by wolftone57
    I would play Smooch on Garlett and Rampe on Betts. Dane can go with him and he is pretty good I the air and that is where Betts gets Smooch. Dre will get the third tall be it Robinson or someone else, they constantly switch their forward and back lines, as in Walker, Robinson, etc.

    We need to make sure the roles of Mitchell and Parker are not at cross purposes, in other words not on ball at the same time if possible. Bird may have to play forward I think.

    Tony A was terrible against Port, he botched almost everything he kicked. He is normally so good with his delivery but did not handle the conditions at all and seemed all at sea, pardon the pun I know it was wet.

    In: Dre

    Out: Tony A

    Sub: Jude
    Agree with your comments about Armstrong, as we comments made by other posters. I don't think he is up to the required standard needed.
    By the way who do you have replacing Goodes?

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    • wolftone57
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2008
      • 5862

      #77
      Originally posted by chalbilto
      Agree with your comments about Armstrong, as we comments made by other posters. I don't think he is up to the required standard needed.
      By the way who do you have replacing Goodes?
      Probably Membrey or Towers. Ugg, Jude hasn't played well in either wet game this year. It is about what is happening now not what happened in the dark ages LOL. Jude has got 11, 12 & 16 in the wet so far for 1.1. He started the season really in hot form but has tapered off at this stage Ugg. He hasn't had any influence on the outcome of any wet game this year so far.

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      • liz
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        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16795

        #78
        Originally posted by ugg
        Pretty early call to make. At least they've given us some time to make the trek across town
        Not much good for those of us who work in the city but had a decent chance of leaving work at 3.30pmish to get to the SCG. No way I can get away in time to make the trek out to Blacktown for 2pm.

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        • wolftone57
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          • Aug 2008
          • 5862

          #79
          I think if the weather is fairly good I will make the trek out to Blacktown. The only problem I have is getting from the station to Blacktown Sports Park. I will look it up on line.

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          • ugg
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            • Jan 2003
            • 15977

            #80
            Originally posted by liz
            Not much good for those of us who work in the city but had a decent chance of leaving work at 3.30pmish to get to the SCG. No way I can get away in time to make the trek out to Blacktown for 2pm.
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            • ernie koala
              Senior Player
              • May 2007
              • 3251

              #81
              Originally posted by ugg
              A wet game in the tight confined spaces of the SCG and you want to bench Jude? There couldn't be a more perfect set of conditions for him
              Given none of our injuries are to Jude type players....I think he should be sub...It's not a total demotion, it's a new role, just ask Gia at the Doggies.

              Jude's not having the impact he used to, IMO, sub could be just the right move for him at this stage.

              He has the smarts to have a real impact in the late stages. And if required early, due to an injury, that would be no problem for him.
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              • Ludwig
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                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                #82
                Originally posted by ernie koala
                Given none of our injuries are to Jude type players....I think he should be sub...It's not a total demotion, it's a new role, just ask Gia at the Doggies.

                Jude's not having the impact he used to, IMO, sub could be just the right move for him at this stage.

                He has the smarts to have a real impact in the late stages. And if required early, due to an injury, that would be no problem for him.
                I agree with this.

                I was thinking how a fresh Jude Bolton could have influenced the game against Port, coming on in the 4th qtr when the game was on the line. I think there is great value in bringing in an experienced player who knows what it takes to make an impact on a game. It's a big responsibility to give to a young inexperienced player like a Jed Lamb.

                How often do you see a high profile soccer player subbed late into the game only to score the winning goal. The use of the substitute will evolve and the way the Dogs have used Gia is the way I think it is heading.

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                • Bloodthirsty
                  On the Rookie List
                  • May 2013
                  • 607

                  #83
                  Are we confident we should win despite our injury toll? Or is our injury toll not as relevant to winning this match as our attitude and gameplan? I was dreading the Collingwood - Essendon - Crows stretch, and look what happened. I am hoping that the same result ensues.

                  Does B. Jack get a run in the wet if Jetta doesn't pull up? Wouldn't have thought we desperately needed another full time forward to cover Goodes, given the forward line hasn't been the problem, plus we have midfield firepower. Bit of run on a heavy track?

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                  Are we confident we should win despite our injury toll? Or is our injury toll not as relevant to winning this match as our attitude and gameplan? I was dreading the Collingwood - Essendon - Crows stretch, and look what happened. I am hoping that the same result ensues.

                  Does B. Jack get a run in the wet if Jetta doesn't pull up? Wouldn't have thought we desperately needed another full time forward to cover Goodes, given the forward line hasn't been the problem, plus we have midfield firepower. Bit of run on a heavy track?
                  "Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the Swans win pretty."

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                  • Cheer_Cheer
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 739

                    #84
                    If we lose this game how is a top 4 position looking ?

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                    • Swansongster
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1264

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Melbournehammer
                      We control their small forwards by controlling the ball. But that is the worry. Are we good enough without goodes and mummy to beat a pretty decent midfield so comprehensively ? And won't chaos kicks forwards be a real problem. ?

                      I wonder whether we should actually be outsiders in this game
                      Then there is the Malthouse curse.

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                      • caj23
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 2462

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Swansongster
                        Then there is the Malthouse curse.
                        Has had more losses than wins as a coach against the Swans (by 1)

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                        • Swansongster
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1264

                          #87
                          Originally posted by caj23
                          Has had more losses than wins as a coach against the Swans (by 1)
                          Thanks for that stat. Reassuring.

                          Can you tell me when the last time was that the Swans won against a Malthouse-coached team and what the record shows for the last 10 games or so (too lazy to look myself)?

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                          Originally posted by caj23
                          Has had more losses than wins as a coach against the Swans (by 1)
                          Thanks for that stat. Reassuring.

                          Can you tell me when the last time was that the Swans won against a Malthouse-coached team and what the record shows for the last 10 games or so (too lazy to look myself)?

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                          • Plugger46
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 3674

                            #88
                            It was 2005. We didn't beat them again til Buckley took over (prelim).

                            There would have been 10 losses in a row.
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                            • Bloodthirsty
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                              • May 2013
                              • 607

                              #89
                              Collingwood did, and still does, have a much better list than Carlton.
                              "Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the Swans win pretty."

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                              • Swansongster
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1264

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Bloodthirsty
                                Collingwood did, and still does, have a much better list than Carlton.
                                True. However, he always stated that he knew how to beat Sydney and that would appear to be borne out in his (recent) coaching record against us.

                                Nevertheless, I believe the Port game was an abomination and that, even with a long list of outs, we should be able to account for Carlton at home tomorrow night.

                                Selections will be interesting.

                                I'd like to see BJ in for Goodes (as sub with Lamb taking Goodes' role). Everitt in for Armstrong (Membrey if Dre unfit).

                                Maybe even (as suggested elsewhere) Jack to start with Bolton on the bench (but I doubt it).

                                I hope Chops gets a full game.

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                                Originally posted by Bloodthirsty
                                Collingwood did, and still does, have a much better list than Carlton.
                                True. However, he always stated that he knew how to beat Sydney and that would appear to be borne out in his (recent) coaching record against us.

                                Nevertheless, I believe the Port game was an abomination and that, even with a long list of outs, we should be able to account for Carlton at home tomorrow night.

                                Selections will be interesting.

                                I'd like to see BJ in for Goodes (as sub with Lamb taking Goodes' role). Everitt in for Armstrong (Membrey if Dre unfit).

                                Maybe even (as suggested elsewhere) Jack to start with Bolton on the bench (but I doubt it).

                                I hope Chops gets a full game.

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