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  • Bloodthirsty
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2013
    • 607

    #16
    Originally posted by jono2707
    Oooh awesome - instead of celebrating a former Swan legend who is making something of his life after footy, lets do a bit of capitalist bashing! Yay....

    Well done Leo for excelling in your second career. It's good to hear, instead of the old 'broken down ex-footballer rues how awful his life now is' storyline.....
    I'm not 'capitalist-bashing', couldn't care less what labels people want to use. I just understand how these things really work and find it highly ironic how much it contradicts the Bloods culture.
    "Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the Swans win pretty."

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    • cherub
      Warming the Bench
      • May 2010
      • 239

      #17
      So, I guess you get your cancer treated by the homeopath. Stockbrokers didn't need to go to Uni a few years ago. I suspect they still don't. Playing Rugby for Australia or going to a GPS school were more important quals. Unfair to lump doctors in with stockbrokers. A good Uni education is supposed to teach you how to think, not what to think.

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      • Sandridge
        Outer wing, Lake Oval
        • Apr 2010
        • 2051

        #18
        Originally posted by Bloodthirsty
        I'm not 'capitalist-bashing', couldn't care less what labels people want to use. I just understand how these things really work and find it highly ironic how much it contradicts the Bloods culture.
        Aiming high, working hard and succeeding contradict the Bloods culture?

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        • Xie Shan
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 2929

          #19
          Bloodthirsty = Nassim Taleb?

          I don't think he's necessarily knocking Leo, who I have no doubt has put in the hard work and deserves the accolade. It's more an observation on the funds management / investment banking industry in general, and those who profit from playing with other people's money, as they get the upside but no downside. That said, not all stockbrokers are bad (my grandfather was one himself).

          But now we are getting off topic. Leo Barry You Star, again!!

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          • sharp9
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 2508

            #20
            To be honest it is very, very rare for a sportsman of any ilk to veer to the left.....PGA tour said that 99.1% of the golfers voted Republican. Sportsmen = don't think deeply = vote Conservative. Artists the exact opposite :-)
            "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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            • dimelb
              pr. dim-melb; m not f
              • Jun 2003
              • 6889

              #21
              Leo is so leftsided. Not many people know his real name was Barikov.
              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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              • sharp9
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 2508

                #22
                Originally posted by Sandridge
                Aiming high, working hard and succeeding contradict the Bloods culture?
                Stockbrokers and Merchant Bankers are the scum of the Earth...people like Mitt Romney and John Key who make half a Billion dollars for themselves whilst destroying companies and taking away people's jobs...they are the absolute antithesis of the "Bloods" Culture which prioritises team work and an equal share for an equal effort.

                You are confusing "aiming high" with standing on the heads of others as you ruthlessly grasp whatever you can for yourself

                You are confusing making money with "succeeding.

                You are confusing being a Stockbroker with actually working for a living.
                "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                • Bloodthirsty
                  On the Rookie List
                  • May 2013
                  • 607

                  #23
                  Originally posted by cherub
                  So, I guess you get your cancer treated by the homeopath. Stockbrokers didn't need to go to Uni a few years ago. I suspect they still don't. Playing Rugby for Australia or going to a GPS school were more important quals. Unfair to lump doctors in with stockbrokers. A good Uni education is supposed to teach you how to think, not what to think.
                  Cancer. Don't get me started on that. Happy to have informed private conversations with people who are happy to spend the time doing genuine research, who understand the sources of their information.

                  Originally posted by sharp9
                  Stockbrokers and Merchant Bankers are the scum of the Earth...people like Mitt Romney and John Key who make half a Billion dollars for themselves whilst destroying companies and taking away people's jobs...they are the absolute antithesis of the "Bloods" Culture which prioritises team work and an equal share for an equal effort.

                  You are confusing "aiming high" with standing on the heads of others as you ruthlessly grasp whatever you can for yourself

                  You are confusing making money with "succeeding.

                  You are confusing being a Stockbroker with actually working for a living.
                  +1.

                  It really is the antithesis of the Bloods culture - looking out for your fellow man; rewarding good and positive things; playing a role that had inherent value and contributes to the whole.

                  I love the Swans but when people start thinking that everything footballers do is heroic, that's when things become a bit sad. Footballers are nothing more than entertainment figures. I do really like professional organisational structures in football, especially the Swans. A lot can be learned from this - I find this aspect fascinating and useful. Who footballers are as men though is no diffferent to the rest of society.

                  Someone said something about uni teaching you how to think - I personally think that is completely wrong. You don't place retired ex-Federal Reserve powerbrokers as Ivy League Deans and expect free thinking graduates.

                  BTW, not having a go at Leo Barry at all. Just general observations about the irony. That's all my comments were really relating to, this being a Swans forum. If I'm rubbing some people the wrong way I'll just cease adding to this thread.
                  "Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the Swans win pretty."

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                  • Sandridge
                    Outer wing, Lake Oval
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2051

                    #24
                    Originally posted by sharp9
                    Stockbrokers and Merchant Bankers are the scum of the Earth...people like Mitt Romney and John Key who make half a Billion dollars for themselves whilst destroying companies and taking away people's jobs...they are the absolute antithesis of the "Bloods" Culture which prioritises team work and an equal share for an equal effort.

                    You are confusing "aiming high" with standing on the heads of others as you ruthlessly grasp whatever you can for yourself

                    You are confusing making money with "succeeding.

                    You are confusing being a Stockbroker with actually working for a living.
                    I'll have to bow to your superior knowledge of stockbrokers and merchant bankers - I don't have enough money to use their services and am not employed in the "business sector". Doesn't mean that I resent people who do have money, however. You seem to have an axe to grind - perhaps other forums are more appropriate for you?

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                    • jono2707
                      Goes up to 11
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3326

                      #25
                      If you have super you're all in it kids....

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                      • bodgie
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 501

                        #26
                        Originally posted by jono2707
                        If you have super you're all in it kids....
                        Yes. by government decree we are all in the gambling game. Other people, who may be great footballers, get to play with and profit from, money set aside for our future.

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                        • jono2707
                          Goes up to 11
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 3326

                          #27
                          Originally posted by bodgie
                          Yes. by government decree we are all in the gambling game. Other people, who may be great footballers, get to play with and profit from, money set aside for our future.
                          You're in control and if you don't want Leo to have a say in how your money is invested, he can't touch it.

                          Ps I don't like stockbrokers either, therefore I choose not to give them control of any of my money. But if I did, I would probably lean towards a former Swan as I'd expect they'd have been brung up to act with at least a bit of responsibility...

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                          • i'm-uninformed2
                            Reefer Madness
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 4653

                            #28
                            So you have a choice between making or losing money on investments? And we're debating this?

                            Is the earth flat too?
                            'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                            • bodgie
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 501

                              #29
                              Um. We don't have a choice. One day my dollar is worth $1.03, the next it might be $.93 even if I choose not invest and to keep it under my bed. So the world is never flat.

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                              • wolftone57
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 5835

                                #30
                                Originally posted by sharp9
                                To be honest it is very, very rare for a sportsman of any ilk to veer to the left.....PGA tour said that 99.1% of the golfers voted Republican. Sportsmen = don't think deeply = vote Conservative. Artists the exact opposite :-)
                                golfers will always vote to the right because they come from the right. If you don't have private funds you can't survive in golf until you make if you do make it.

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                                Originally posted by jono2707
                                If you have super you're all in it kids....
                                Yes and in the near past how much super has just been lost? I lost all my super, not by my own design but other people investing my super in dangerous investments. I am trying to sue because they used my suer for International investment when I consciously ticked only the boxes for local investment and more so for the Real Estate market.

                                While saying that it is nice he is successful at least he is not like my fund managers, @@@@wits!

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