St. KFC gameday thread

[mcs]

So much talk from game commentators and in the media about Jesse auditioning for another team. But why would we want to trade him considering the way he's been playing? We would probably go into the next draft looking for a key defender, but if you have White at CHF, then Reid becomes that young tall defender. So what's the point of trading White for a draft pick to get some unknown.

I noticed plenty of posters' comments about Mitchell, Lamb, etc. all being in our best 22. But if Goodes comes in, then probably Lamb will exit, unless Dre goes out. Then what about Mitchell? Does Rohan stay in the side? I think Horse will want at least one of Rohan or Jetta for the speed, and now Rohan is in the side, so it's his spot to lose.

Selection may become a big dilemma. Today's side seems good enough to go into the finals with, but we still have 4 that could easily come in (Goodes, Reid, Jetta and Mitchell).

I know we need the speed of Jetta or Rohan, but on what we saw yesterday, Rohan's really only going to be ready to have an impact as a Sub in finals at best. Mitchell has to be in the team for me, and Goodes naturally will come back in if he is anywhere near fit. As for Reid and Jetta, that's more difficult. Reid I think will really struggle to get back in, given how well Jesse has been playing. And to me, the sign that they selected Rohan yesterday says that there is still significant doubt about whether we will see Jetta at all again this year. For its clear Rohan is still finding his feet, and that he will make a contribution goign forward.

I'd say it'll be Goodes and Mitchell in, for Lamb (very unlucky - really liked his game again yesterday) and I don't know. Perhaps one of the talls will have to go?

[Jewels]

Popularity of both subs is at polar opposites.

Tippett to bag 5. Swans to win by 51 pts.

Pretty Deadly Akkuret tipping!
I can't recall ever seeing more reaction to subs coming on then when both players took the field yesterday and yes, aren't they ever polar opposites.

Perhaps one of the talls will have to go?

Which tall would you drop? I thought the four of them were wonderful.

[CJK]

Didn't care much for Jude's nor Benney's game.

There was much groaning from the crowd with a lot of their plays.

[Xie Shan]

Didn't care much for Jude's nor Benney's game.

There was much groaning from the crowd with a lot of their plays.

A little bit harsh for me. Benny stuffed up a few times but had a better game than last week. Still some way off his best though, and may have been a bit lucky to walk straight back into the team last week. Jude's defensive pressure and tackling still as good as ever, he spilled a few marks and disposal wasn't as sharp which suggests perhaps the reflexes aren't as good as they used to be.

[Go Swannies]

Didn't care much for Jude's nor Benney's game.

There was much groaning from the crowd with a lot of their plays.

Jude looked like he'd brought the wrong hands and feet - at least his marking and goal kicking suggested that. But if he was going to have an off game that wasn't a bad time to have it.

Benny, the flying Benny - what was that about? He still has that desperation for a Premiership Medallion but it's causing him to rush and miss. That's why I think it was so important that he had to have a shot at goal he didn't want to take - and that he took his time, went back and slotted it home. Come finals, his pressure and desperation will be welcome - and he'll be fully back up to speed after his three weeks off.

[wolftone57]

I have read this thread from start to finish and while I commend people here for being positive I didn't see anything yesterday that justified any positivity. We played one quarter of reasonable footy yesterday and many of our players still managed to waste the ball on more occasions than not.

What is with the underground handball, by this I mean handballing to a player by bouncing the ball into the ground first. A direct handball does not hit the ground therefore far less chance of going astray.

The field kicking was terrible on the whole and if it weren't for Dane we would have been punished time and time again. The efforts of some of our most senior players in this area were nothing short of pathetic yesterday, carrying on from last week. Macca had 6 kicks in the first and not one hit a target, Mal was the same all match, Jude ran hot & cold, Benny seemed out of it until the third and his and Rhyce's delivery was crap. Everyone is knocking Everitt here, I must have been at a different match, he was good when all the other experienced players were absolutely crap in the first half. He atr least tried to get things going and at least his delivery was good unlike Macca & mal who were both probably the worst players on the ground up until then. not because they did not get the ball but because they wasted it.

This just bombing to Tippett all the time is SSSSOOOOO predictable and the opposition just sit on him and wait to pick the spoils. I saw so many options other than Kurt in the first half that were ignored and it made me angry that we are falling for this stupid trap. Use him certainly but don't just use HIM. He has to be in the right position to get the ball and on the majority of occasions he wasn't or the ball was not kicked to advantage or he was double/triple teamed. I like it when we spread the forward line.

The other thing is when we are trying to bring the ball down the flank all players move to the side the ball is on and totally congest that area and there is nobody in the centre or on the other side which sets up the loose player. This is a total mistake and IT IS game plan it is obvious. Never going to beat good sides doing that @@@@.

Talking about congestion. When we are kicking out, why is it sudfdenly every player is in our back half? That was never the case before. All this does is congest the area and make almost impossible to get the ball out unless someone takes a pack mark (On average about 6 per game). If a player does mark the ball as Pyke and Mumford both did at different times they have to wait while the forwards stream forward with their opposite numbers and that gives time for the backs and opposition mids to set up. since when do we have all of our players on the HFF at any time? Yesterday and against Collingwood we did.

About the mid field set ups. Kennedy normally sets up on the side because he is our best in and under player but against Pies and Saints he set up on the back of the circle and played a more running role. I don't like this set up as it exposes us. Our mids set up was fantastic and really working and now they have stuffed around with it.

The Wash up; If we play like that against Cats or Hawks expect an absolute hiding. I mean a hiding of the 10 to 20 goal margin. In reality we were pathetic yesterday and lucky we were playing a number 16 team. By the way it was obvious they are 16th, they play like a bottom team and so did we.

[stellation]

What is with the underground handball, by this I mean handballing to a player by bouncing the ball into the ground first. A direct handball does not hit the ground therefore far less chance of going astray.

I must admit, I don't think I've seen somebody attempt to grubber a handball unless it was actually required to avoid deflection. It's certainly not a new concept, if we see it more frequently nowadays I can only assume it's due to an overall increase in skill from practicing it.

[Bloodthirsty]

I have read this thread from start to finish and while I commend people here for being positive I didn't see anything yesterday that justified any positivity. We played one quarter of reasonable footy yesterday and many of our players still managed to waste the ball on more occasions than not.

What is with the underground handball, by this I mean handballing to a player by bouncing the ball into the ground first. A direct handball does not hit the ground therefore far less chance of going astray.

The field kicking was terrible on the whole and if it weren't for Dane we would have been punished time and time again. The efforts of some of our most senior players in this area were nothing short of pathetic yesterday, carrying on from last week. Macca had 6 kicks in the first and not one hit a target, Mal was the same all match, Jude ran hot & cold, Benny seemed out of it until the third and his and Rhyce's delivery was crap. Everyone is knocking Everitt here, I must have been at a different match, he was good when all the other experienced players were absolutely crap in the first half. He atr least tried to get things going and at least his delivery was good unlike Macca & mal who were both probably the worst players on the ground up until then. not because they did not get the ball but because they wasted it.

This just bombing to Tippett all the time is SSSSOOOOO predictable and the opposition just sit on him and wait to pick the spoils. I saw so many options other than Kurt in the first half that were ignored and it made me angry that we are falling for this stupid trap. Use him certainly but don't just use HIM. He has to be in the right position to get the ball and on the majority of occasions he wasn't or the ball was not kicked to advantage or he was double/triple teamed. I like it when we spread the forward line.

The other thing is when we are trying to bring the ball down the flank all players move to the side the ball is on and totally congest that area and there is nobody in the centre or on the other side which sets up the loose player. This is a total mistake and IT IS game plan it is obvious. Never going to beat good sides doing that @@@@.

Talking about congestion. When we are kicking out, why is it sudfdenly every player is in our back half? That was never the case before. All this does is congest the area and make almost impossible to get the ball out unless someone takes a pack mark (On average about 6 per game). If a player does mark the ball as Pyke and Mumford both did at different times they have to wait while the forwards stream forward with their opposite numbers and that gives time for the backs and opposition mids to set up. since when do we have all of our players on the HFF at any time? Yesterday and against Collingwood we did.

About the mid field set ups. Kennedy normally sets up on the side because he is our best in and under player but against Pies and Saints he set up on the back of the circle and played a more running role. I don't like this set up as it exposes us. Our mids set up was fantastic and really working and now they have stuffed around with it.

The Wash up; If we play like that against Cats or Hawks expect an absolute hiding. I mean a hiding of the 10 to 20 goal margin. In reality we were pathetic yesterday and lucky we were playing a number 16 team. By the way it was obvious they are 16th, they play like a bottom team and so did we.

Good analysis. Yeah great to get a win blah blah blah but if we play like that we will go out in straight sets.

[Nich]

Don't worry about the 'kicking to Tippett' theme. Come Finals Horse will get them working the other way and the opposition will be confused. The spread of goal kickers will come back.

I've learnt in the past. Just when you think they are heading in one direction it reverts back to what we are good at. I honestly believe they are under a different training schedule heading into September along with Horse switching things up a little with particular things in mind. (Don't ask me what they are)

My biggest concern and I really hate to say it is that at the moment Jude is not giving enough at half forward. Too slow to create forward defensive pressure and he is not kicking well at all. However he deserves to play out the year and hopefully he can pull out some big games. We really have been letting teams rebound too easy.

[mcs]

I have read this thread from start to finish and while I commend people here for being positive I didn't see anything yesterday that justified any positivity. We played one quarter of reasonable footy yesterday and many of our players still managed to waste the ball on more occasions than not.

What is with the underground handball, by this I mean handballing to a player by bouncing the ball into the ground first. A direct handball does not hit the ground therefore far less chance of going astray.

The field kicking was terrible on the whole and if it weren't for Dane we would have been punished time and time again. The efforts of some of our most senior players in this area were nothing short of pathetic yesterday, carrying on from last week. Macca had 6 kicks in the first and not one hit a target, Mal was the same all match, Jude ran hot & cold, Benny seemed out of it until the third and his and Rhyce's delivery was crap. Everyone is knocking Everitt here, I must have been at a different match, he was good when all the other experienced players were absolutely crap in the first half. He atr least tried to get things going and at least his delivery was good unlike Macca & mal who were both probably the worst players on the ground up until then. not because they did not get the ball but because they wasted it.

This just bombing to Tippett all the time is SSSSOOOOO predictable and the opposition just sit on him and wait to pick the spoils. I saw so many options other than Kurt in the first half that were ignored and it made me angry that we are falling for this stupid trap. Use him certainly but don't just use HIM. He has to be in the right position to get the ball and on the majority of occasions he wasn't or the ball was not kicked to advantage or he was double/triple teamed. I like it when we spread the forward line.

The other thing is when we are trying to bring the ball down the flank all players move to the side the ball is on and totally congest that area and there is nobody in the centre or on the other side which sets up the loose player. This is a total mistake and IT IS game plan it is obvious. Never going to beat good sides doing that @@@@.

Talking about congestion. When we are kicking out, why is it sudfdenly every player is in our back half? That was never the case before. All this does is congest the area and make almost impossible to get the ball out unless someone takes a pack mark (On average about 6 per game). If a player does mark the ball as Pyke and Mumford both did at different times they have to wait while the forwards stream forward with their opposite numbers and that gives time for the backs and opposition mids to set up. since when do we have all of our players on the HFF at any time? Yesterday and against Collingwood we did.

About the mid field set ups. Kennedy normally sets up on the side because he is our best in and under player but against Pies and Saints he set up on the back of the circle and played a more running role. I don't like this set up as it exposes us. Our mids set up was fantastic and really working and now they have stuffed around with it.

The Wash up; If we play like that against Cats or Hawks expect an absolute hiding. I mean a hiding of the 10 to 20 goal margin. In reality we were pathetic yesterday and lucky we were playing a number 16 team. By the way it was obvious they are 16th, they play like a bottom team and so did we.

Pretty decent analysis there wolftone. I do agree we need to improve sharply, but then again I thought that after Rd 23 last year as well. We really are missing what an in form Jetta brings to the midfield. If we are to win the flag this year, we won't do it on the basis of the slingshot success of last year. It'll be on getting back to basics, playing very tough, accountable and hard footy, and winning a dour struggle against our opponents. The key I think will be whether we can manage to do it for enough of the game against geelong and hawthorn so that the majority of the match is player on our terms. If, like it was last week against Collingwood, and earlier in the season against geelong, hawthorn and port, not on our terms, then we really will struggle. To that point, its critical that the fitness team have got our midfield training program right - we need them to be able to gut run all through September, give and give again and again like they did last year. If so, we will have a sniff.

At least however we have one key improvement over last season, and it could be so important in September. And that is a capable big lump up forward that can kick bags of goals if needed. He nearly dragged an Adelaide team which has been shown this year to be distinctly average into a grand final last year. If all else fails in september, we just might have a wildcard that can drag our team kicking and screaming over the line in a match that we would otherwise lose. Hawthorn have a player like that in Franklin (and Roughead too imo), Freo have an ageing great of the game in Pavlich, and geelong have one in Hawkins (if he is fit). Tippett could be the big man that makes all the difference for us.

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Didn't care much for Jude's nor Benney's game.

There was much groaning from the crowd with a lot of their plays.

I would not be suprised to see Jude get a week's rest either this week or more likely the Hawks game. He is still working incredibly hard, but looks maybe mentally a bit tired to me - i.e. dropping simple marks and sometimes struggling with the basics.

I do sadly think though, whatever happens at the end of the year, his time as a player is probably up

But if I was running the swans, my first step would be getting him straight into our coaching structure in some degree (clearly at a lower level to begin with). His knowledge of the game is up there with the best of them, and he'd make a fine coach one of these days I'd feel.

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Don't worry about the 'kicking to Tippett' theme. Come Finals Horse will get them working the other way and the opposition will be confused. The spread of goal kickers will come back.

I've learnt in the past. Just when you think they are heading in one direction it reverts back to what we are good at. I honestly believe they are under a different training schedule heading into September along with Horse switching things up a little with particular things in mind. (Don't ask me what they are)

My biggest concern and I really hate to say it is that at the moment Jude is not giving enough at half forward. Too slow to create forward defensive pressure and he is not kicking well at all. However he deserves to play out the year and hopefully he can pull out some big games. We really have been letting teams rebound too easy.

Lets hope so Nich. What was pleasing yesterday in the 3rd was that while Tippett kicked 3 I think in the term, we stopped just bombing it relentlessly towards him, and started looking to other targets. Come the big games, starting with geelong on Saturday, we know their focus will be on stopping tippett, as they will believe stop tippett = stop swans goal scoring options. We need to keep using other options - as double and even triple teaming Tippett has to lead to more space for our other forwards, and surely more space for our midfielders to push forward to create pressure. Jesse White and Lamb, and Jude all worked well at presenting, but its up to our midfielders to take that extra split second to get their eyes down and look for other targets. For having such a good key forward means there will be opportunities for other forwards, and if we can use them, then in turn it allows the opposition less ability to keep a clamp on Tippett, which in itself opens up more opportunities for him.

We have the mix there to win the flag again, but we have to get our gameplan right to do so.

[Melbournehammer]

I have read this thread from start to finish and while I commend people here for being positive I didn't see anything yesterday that justified any positivity. We played one quarter of reasonable footy yesterday and many of our players still managed to waste the ball on more occasions than not.

What is with the underground handball, by this I mean handballing to a player by bouncing the ball into the ground first. A direct handball does not hit the ground therefore far less chance of going astray.

The field kicking was terrible on the whole and if it weren't for Dane we would have been punished time and time again. The efforts of some of our most senior players in this area were nothing short of pathetic yesterday, carrying on from last week. Macca had 6 kicks in the first and not one hit a target, Mal was the same all match, Jude ran hot & cold, Benny seemed out of it until the third and his and Rhyce's delivery was crap. Everyone is knocking Everitt here, I must have been at a different match, he was good when all the other experienced players were absolutely crap in the first half. He atr least tried to get things going and at least his delivery was good unlike Macca & mal who were both probably the worst players on the ground up until then. not because they did not get the ball but because they wasted it.

This just bombing to Tippett all the time is SSSSOOOOO predictable and the opposition just sit on him and wait to pick the spoils. I saw so many options other than Kurt in the first half that were ignored and it made me angry that we are falling for this stupid trap. Use him certainly but don't just use HIM. He has to be in the right position to get the ball and on the majority of occasions he wasn't or the ball was not kicked to advantage or he was double/triple teamed. I like it when we spread the forward line.

The other thing is when we are trying to bring the ball down the flank all players move to the side the ball is on and totally congest that area and there is nobody in the centre or on the other side which sets up the loose player. This is a total mistake and IT IS game plan it is obvious. Never going to beat good sides doing that @@@@.

Talking about congestion. When we are kicking out, why is it sudfdenly every player is in our back half? That was never the case before. All this does is congest the area and make almost impossible to get the ball out unless someone takes a pack mark (On average about 6 per game). If a player does mark the ball as Pyke and Mumford both did at different times they have to wait while the forwards stream forward with their opposite numbers and that gives time for the backs and opposition mids to set up. since when do we have all of our players on the HFF at any time? Yesterday and against Collingwood we did.

About the mid field set ups. Kennedy normally sets up on the side because he is our best in and under player but against Pies and Saints he set up on the back of the circle and played a more running role. I don't like this set up as it exposes us. Our mids set up was fantastic and really working and now they have stuffed around with it.

The Wash up; If we play like that against Cats or Hawks expect an absolute hiding. I mean a hiding of the 10 to 20 goal margin. In reality we were pathetic yesterday and lucky we were playing a number 16 team. By the way it was obvious they are 16th, they play like a bottom team and so did we.

I'm glad someone else said this. I have been roundly condemned for being too pessimistic.

My only hope is that we are engaged in a bit of a tactic occurring with horse at the moment mind you.

When i was at the dogs game the tippett focus shocked me a bit - i saw jesse make great leads - and i mean really great leads - diagonal towards the ball and he was completely ignored as it sailed over his head to tippett. it wasnt until the second half that we started actually looking for him on a lead and it started going through players. I wonder whether we have been told go hard and direct in the first quarter and hit the fall of the ball and thereafter look for players because your opponent will start sagging off and going to the goal square. I hope this is what is happening because when we do lower our eyes and become less tippett conscious jesse, lamb, pyke all look like they can mark the ball and convert.

I think mal is struggling at the moment. his field kicking has been poor for the last few weeks - often because he is looking for a soft round the back handball from reg or ted but just making bringing more pressure on himself and often kicking from a somewhat worse position (nearer the boundary line) where the only option is to seek a stoppage at centre wing. Macca I am less worried about but both of them are not real quick and it does cause us difficulties once the ball gets into open spaces.

Part of the problem is the absence of jetta. without him playing on the open side of the ground dragging a defender away and giving us the outlet of a kick into space we lack options. I have said it over and over (to myself it makes me seem strange but at least i know someone is listening) that without mcglynn, jetta and shaw we lack leg speed. a half forward line of bird, bolton, parker, lamb does not give the opposition or our team a belief that a kick into the open side will be won by us and create a scoring threat. instead it opens us up to a swift counter attack.

I don't think we will cop an absolute hiding from the cats - but maybe thats because i think less than ten goals is not a hiding. But I worry about their smalls and their pace - motlop, christensen, smedts, even horlin-smith all seem quicker than us, and pods and hawkins at least as strong as our tall defenders. I worry less about the hawks because I do think they have the capacity to be pressured into error. The cats dont mind just making the ball someone elses problem because they have the pace to win the next contest.

I think, tbh, its the cats flag to lose but if we can get back to our best we could well pressure them all afternoon and give ourselves a bit of a sniff. But part of it must be to take marks inside fifty and not drop them and convert when we have chances and for gods sake occasionally use some of our other forwards from the first quarter.

[Go Swannies]

I have read this thread from start to finish and while I commend people here for being positive I didn't see anything yesterday that justified any positivity. We played one quarter of reasonable footy yesterday and many of our players still managed to waste the ball on more occasions than not.

What is with the underground handball, by this I mean handballing to a player by bouncing the ball into the ground first. A direct handball does not hit the ground therefore far less chance of going astray.

The field kicking was terrible on the whole and if it weren't for Dane we would have been punished time and time again. The efforts of some of our most senior players in this area were nothing short of pathetic yesterday, carrying on from last week. Macca had 6 kicks in the first and not one hit a target, Mal was the same all match, Jude ran hot & cold, Benny seemed out of it until the third and his and Rhyce's delivery was crap. Everyone is knocking Everitt here, I must have been at a different match, he was good when all the other experienced players were absolutely crap in the first half. He atr least tried to get things going and at least his delivery was good unlike Macca & mal who were both probably the worst players on the ground up until then. not because they did not get the ball but because they wasted it.

This just bombing to Tippett all the time is SSSSOOOOO predictable and the opposition just sit on him and wait to pick the spoils. I saw so many options other than Kurt in the first half that were ignored and it made me angry that we are falling for this stupid trap. Use him certainly but don't just use HIM. He has to be in the right position to get the ball and on the majority of occasions he wasn't or the ball was not kicked to advantage or he was double/triple teamed. I like it when we spread the forward line.

The other thing is when we are trying to bring the ball down the flank all players move to the side the ball is on and totally congest that area and there is nobody in the centre or on the other side which sets up the loose player. This is a total mistake and IT IS game plan it is obvious. Never going to beat good sides doing that @@@@.

Talking about congestion. When we are kicking out, why is it sudfdenly every player is in our back half? That was never the case before. All this does is congest the area and make almost impossible to get the ball out unless someone takes a pack mark (On average about 6 per game). If a player does mark the ball as Pyke and Mumford both did at different times they have to wait while the forwards stream forward with their opposite numbers and that gives time for the backs and opposition mids to set up. since when do we have all of our players on the HFF at any time? Yesterday and against Collingwood we did.

About the mid field set ups. Kennedy normally sets up on the side because he is our best in and under player but against Pies and Saints he set up on the back of the circle and played a more running role. I don't like this set up as it exposes us. Our mids set up was fantastic and really working and now they have stuffed around with it.

The Wash up; If we play like that against Cats or Hawks expect an absolute hiding. I mean a hiding of the 10 to 20 goal margin. In reality we were pathetic yesterday and lucky we were playing a number 16 team. By the way it was obvious they are 16th, they play like a bottom team and so did we.

You're early! I wrote us off after the Cats game at the end of last H&A season. It made September a pleasant surprise. I think I posted at the time "How can a Swans team that played like we did expect to win a Premiership?" Well, they did, I didn't. My only out was if we'd not been too bothered about whether we beat the Cats or not. Maybe that was true?

[Auntie.Gerald]

wolfy i think we have all made valid points

I just think there is a big opportunity cost when you move to far away from the structure that we are playing right now in our build up of play or counter attack

Therefore I wasnt totally clear on how you want the Swans to play and what risk this will pose if not executed ?

When playing I found the faster more agile teams were very very difficult to take on thru the middle of the field with short passes (hand or foot) because if you had a turnover against you they were out of the gate before you could turn round !!!

The reality of our team is that we do have slower combative players - in and under midfielders and a stack of them in comparison to most teams in the comp. I believe this is by design because we as a club play a particular style of football which keeps predominantly in and around the top 8 which is a remarkable achievement.......remarkable especially considering how much we have to travel to away games compared to Melb teams etc !

Matching up on the likes of Christensen, Motlop, Stokes - these guys are very very quick and agile and need to be kept in and around the pack...........and to contain thise type of elite skill and dexterity and vision you need to close the space for large parts of the game - hence the large percentage of bomb it long to flood the front part of the field or when dominated flood our 50m defensive arc

Year, Members, placed, crowds

1996 9,525 2nd 24,996
1997 22,109 7th 36,612
1998 31,089 5th 31,549
1999 31,175 8th 30,586
2000 30,177 10th 25,308
2001 28,022 7th 27,556
2002 27,755 11th 25,270
2003 21,270 3rd 32,244
2004 25,010 5th 30,964
2005 24,955 1st 31,516
2006 30,382 2nd 32,877?
2007 28,764 7th 35,632?
2008 26,721 6th 32,834
2009 26,269 12th 30,506
2010 28,671 5th 31,586
2011 27,106 6th 26,615
2012 29,873 1st 27,663

[Melbournehammer]

I don't know whether this is writing us off. I think we are definitely in the mix, but the question is whether we are going as well as we were last season. we probably should have beaten the pies last year but there is no way you could have said this about us this year. If we had beaten the hawks last season at the scg i think no-one would have begrudged us a level of favouritism against the crows. it was really only the geelong game where we looked bad and even in that game we were a goal or so off them early in the second half. But it was one of those games where we struggled to get the ball into their defensive fifty from about the ten minute mark of the third quarter.

It is worth noting though that this was a bit the case against the crows a week later - I cant remember what our inside fifties were that day but they were very low - we just converted well when we got there.

[Bloodthirsty]

Jetta is a great talent, but conversely there's nothing more utterly useless than an out-of-form Lewis Jetta. Rohan is the man. He has to be. And if he's not, then we don't have 'the man'. And we need the man to win the flag. Remember how many times Jetta ran onto the ball in space and scored or set up a score at the end of last year? That doesn't happen anymore, but it needs to.

Goodes had to be the man in the GF, despite his ailments. Rohan has to be the man to help us this year. If the Bloods are the Bloods I know this year, then Rohan will step up.