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  • dimelb
    pr. dim-melb; m not f
    • Jun 2003
    • 6889

    Changes

    I was waiting for people to wake up to our coaching panel. Despite the headline, there is interest for Swans here with Leigh Tudor and George Stone likely to move.

    Lions set to interview Neil Craig
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)
  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 15970

    #2
    Tudor would be a big loss but I believe I read in an another article that the main reason is to go back to Melbourne (the city)

    Crouch would be a good choice to get a spot as an assistant given the outstanding job he's done with the reserves over the past couple of years
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    • toothy76
      On the Rookie List
      • Jun 2011
      • 73

      #3
      Tudor is moving back to Melbourne without a job, so Roos could snap him up. Blakey will go back to working with his old Fitzroy mate. Stone could go. Ireland could reunite with Roos. Talk of Maxfield going scares me. And what about players?

      Crouch looks to be doing a great job, so I have no doubt he would be a good addition to the senior panel. There are plenty of good people out there, but it will be a shame to lose some we already know to be great at their job.

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      • stellation
        scott names the planets
        • Sep 2003
        • 9720

        #4
        Originally posted by dimelb
        I was waiting for people to wake up to our coaching panel. Despite the headline, there is interest for Swans here with Leigh Tudor and George Stone likely to move.

        Lions set to interview Neil Craig
        Pedantic I know, but would it be that hard for a second set of eyes to at least take a quick look at articles before they're posted? I appreciate Fairfax viewed subbies as a quick "save money by outsourcing" opportunity, but surely at some point you have to say "oh, that actually was a skilled role!". One sentence in to that article and there's a classic writer miss/subbie catch that would have been found for the sake of 30 minutes of quality control.
        I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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        • ugg
          Can you feel it?
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 15970

          #5
          Blakey just re-signed. Ireland is the CEO and that's not a job that a head coach can appoint.

          Didn't Tudor join after Roosy left, in fact was his indirect replacement as he took Longmire's previous assistant's role?
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          • stellation
            scott names the planets
            • Sep 2003
            • 9720

            #6
            Originally posted by ugg
            Blakey just re-signed. Ireland is the CEO and that's not a job that a head coach can appoint.

            Didn't Tudor join after Roosy left, in fact was his indirect replacement as he took Longmire's previous assistant's role?
            Yep, Leigh was a Longmire hire.
            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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            • ernie koala
              Senior Player
              • May 2007
              • 3251

              #7
              Originally posted by toothy76
              Tudor is moving back to Melbourne without a job, so Roos could snap him up. Blakey will go back to working with his old Fitzroy mate. Stone could go. Ireland could reunite with Roos. Talk of Maxfield going scares me. And what about players?

              Crouch looks to be doing a great job, so I have no doubt he would be a good addition to the senior panel. There are plenty of good people out there, but it will be a shame to lose some we already know to be great at their job.
              Going by your predictions...The answer is obvious ....

              Let's just relocate the Swans back to melbourne
              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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              • ShockOfHair
                One Man Out
                • Dec 2007
                • 3668

                #8
                So Stone and Tudor to leave. I can't believe Stuey is going anywhere.

                With Horse, Crouch, Hank, Dew, we're well-served for coaches. But I'd be happy to start the Mickey O for coach bandwagon.

                Apart from the Swans, Roos also has Lyon's coaching team to plunder as well. We know who I mean.
                The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                • dimelb
                  pr. dim-melb; m not f
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6889

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ShockOfHair
                  So Stone and Tudor to leave. I can't believe Stuey is going anywhere.

                  With Horse, Crouch, Hank, Dew, we're well-served for coaches. But I'd be happy to start the Mickey O for coach bandwagon.

                  Apart from the Swans, Roos also has Lyon's coaching team to plunder as well. We know who I mean.
                  And I wonder what Vossy is planning?
                  He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                  • DK_
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 454

                    #10
                    I've got no experience with the inner workings of a football club, but generally believe that people are much the same everywhere, so HR matters like this are common across industries. The possible exception would be banking, where it's all about the money and little else.

                    At my work, whenever we've lost popular senior people to competitors, we've always feared that they'd take most of their team with them. However, this has rarely eventuated. It's only ever been one or two, and in almost all of those cases, there's been another pressing reason for it - ie. they had the irates about something else, or they were being protected by the senior person in question and were now looking very shaky for a continuing role. I can't think of a single instance where someone who was content and valuable in their role decided to follow their boss to another competitor.

                    People have a lot invested in their employer and with their associates other than their immediate boss. For example, I would think coaching staff involved in player development would like to oversee the continued rise of their young charges. Add to that the need to move interstate, the success and culture of the Swans and the promising future for the club, and I'd contend that Roos will have his work cut out to poach anyone from the Swans.

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                    • Primmy
                      Proud Tragic Swan
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 5970

                      #11
                      Couldn't be worried less if Tudds left as henry and crouchy are extremely good at this coaching caper. I would be desparately sorry if Stuey left us but his kids are in Melb and they are growing up.

                      But succession plans are always in place at swans so no worries.

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                      Couldn't be worried less if Tudds left as henry and crouchy are extremely good at this coaching caper. I would be desparately sorry if Stuey left us but his kids are in Melb and they are growing up.

                      But succession plans are always in place at swans so no worries.
                      If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                      • Ruck'n'Roll
                        Ego alta, ergo ictus
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 3990

                        #12
                        I've been wondering about this, it seemed add as one of his kids was due to do the HSC next year wasn't he?

                        And then when Roosy was "On the couch" I got the feeling something wasn't quite right betwwen him and the Swans: According to Gerard Healy in an 'Hun live chat today:

                        1:16 Comment From Scott
                        Gerard re your discussion with Roosy 'On the Couch' was there an inference there were problems at the Swans with Roosy?


                        1:17 Gerard Healy:
                        Mike raised an issue about Roosy and the academy, as in maybe they're looking at reevaluating how much money they spend on the academy. (That's my inference) I don't know the details of that, Roosy wasn't expansive on the show or after. The only problem Paul Roos has with the Swans is whether his statue out the front is going to be made of bronze, silver or gold!


                        I wonder if the Scott asking the question was "our" Scott?
                        Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 5 September 2013, 02:18 PM.

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                        • Doctor
                          Bay 29
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2757

                          #13
                          They won't be able to judge how successful the Academy has been until at least 2 or 3 years worth of kids who started in the U11s have come all the way through. I say that as the father of a boy in the U14s who has seen the way the boys have developed over the last three years. If either the club or Roosy is arguing differently then i can see how conflict may arise. I would have thought they'd both be in agreement on this though. We do have a recent history of being a patient club.
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                          • ernie koala
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2007
                            • 3251

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                            I've been wondering about this, it seemed add as one of his kids was due to do the HSC next year wasn't he?

                            Mike raised an issue about Roosy and the academy, as in maybe they're looking at reevaluating how much money they spend on the academy.
                            Ahhhh Roosey, you say it isn't so, but.......Is it all about the money?
                            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                            • Pmcc2911
                              Regular in the Side
                              • May 2013
                              • 516

                              #15
                              "I've been wondering about this, it seemed add as one of his kids was due to do the HSC next year wasn't he? "

                              You are correct Tyler played U/16s last year and U/18s this year so that would be right for him to do the HSC next year.
                              Another angle though is it would be fair to assume both sons (Dylan plays U/16 this year) would have AFL footy aspirations, Melbourne (the city) would be a better place to achieve those aspirations. Perhaps more important than the HSc

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