2014 Draft Prospects

[YoungTalent101]

Heeney may attract some interest late in the first round if he can put together a very good year this year, but as history tells us, most clubs steer clear of picking NSW boys which could see the swans getting some absolute guns at the back end of the draft as well as pick up some talls in the first round.
Ludwig is spot on with the Melbourne comment. I think they will have their eye on some some of the academy talent with Roosy knowing a few of the boys very well

[YoungTalent101]

Has anyone got updates on how the acadmey boys are playing?

[swanspant12]

Need to draft key position backs this draft.

Our midfield is set, but our lack of key talls is concerning, especially considering alot of our backline is coming to the pointy ends of their careers.

Shaw 32, Richards 31, LRT 31, Malceski 29. Time to draft for the backline Kinnear. Get it done, genius.

[goswannies]

I think Essendon still has a 1st rounder to forfeit, so that makes it pick 17.

Unless BBR25 is suggesting we either suffer a massive form slump or tank for picks 18 and ONE?

[707]

Abe Davis is getting airplay as a probable nomination by us so what can ressie watchers tell about him?

[undy]

Abe Davis is getting airplay as a probable nomination by us so what can ressie watchers tell about him?

He looks a lot fitter in real life than he does on YouTube.
May have to find a different barber to most of the team.
Seems like a pretty good kick to me.

[Matt80]

Need to draft key position backs this draft.

Our midfield is set, but our lack of key talls is concerning, especially considering alot of our backline is coming to the pointy ends of their careers.

Shaw 32, Richards 31, LRT 31, Malceski 29. Time to draft for the backline Kinnear. Get it done, genius.

I have raised the possibility of trading for a Jake Carlisle in another thread and have been ridiculed. The trade that I proposed to get Carlisle has been even more ridiculed.

Great key backs are as precious as great key forwards. There not usually lying around as delisted free agents.

Drafting them always take years to come to fruition.

[Ludwig]

I have raised the possibility of trading for a Jake Carlisle in another thread and have been ridiculed. The trade that I proposed to get Carlisle has been even more ridiculed.

Great key backs are as precious as great key forwards. There not usually lying around as delisted free agents.

Drafting them always take years to come to fruition.

I think our key defender situation is more 'uncertain' than desperate. It seems we can carry the current group for at least another year. Laidler has worked out well and is still young and relatively inexperienced. He should only get better.

I think Membrey will make it as a third forward, so Reid can play back if we want. Nankervis is another Tippett-type player that is really more a ruck-forward than a pure ruckman. He's a very accurate kick for goal, which is another reason I think Reid can play more in defence than forward.

The uncertainty is 1) if AJ can return and pick up his career where he left off, 2)can Tommy Walsh restart his career and 3) can either Allir or XR make it at senior level. I would say that we would hope that at least one of these will make it. If 2 get through, then we will be fine for some time to come.

In any case, with Isaac Heeney joining our already deep midfield next year, likely followed by Dunkley and Mills, we can focus all of the rest of our recruiting on KPPs, and particularly KPDs. It doesn't really matter that Heeney will likely consume our first pick, because the really top KPPs will go in the first dozen players, then a gap to the next level, so there should be a number of key defenders available with our second pick. Abe Davis can hopefully join the club as a rookie. So I would imagine that we will have at least another 2 KPP prospects by next year.

I wouldn't mind using our second pick to get one of GWS's excess young defenders, maybe Frost or Jaksch.

I think the speculation about trading a gun midfielder for a gun key defender is valid, but something that we hopefully need not worry about until the after the 2015 season. If none of the players and prospects mentioned above come through then our hand may be forced.

[Cpt. Kirk]

Have a look at Josh Dunkley's twitter page.

Josh Dunkley (jdunks6) on Twitter

Lot's of links to Swans on there. It looks like the relationship is OK. Also a good picture of Josh with Adan Goodes. Josh is not far off Adam's height - a big boy for a 16 year old.

Future AFL stars train at AIS camp - YouTube

Looks good for 2015, he seems pretty keen to go to Sydney.

[707]

I think you will find GWS almost impossible to trade with. They are in a position of strength trade wise and seem to have a loathing for us when you see what they gave us for Mumford and how they refused to deal for Lamb instead using the PSD to get him for free.

Their time will come when a heap of high draft picks who are not getting a regular game flee back to Melbourne but I doubt we'll be able to snare any.

KPD is where we may have a weakness, that's why I think it's important LRT continues, just for back up whilst we develop other players. Still think Reid will become our longer term CHB, and a very good one too.

[mcs]

I have raised the possibility of trading for a Jake Carlisle in another thread and have been ridiculed. The trade that I proposed to get Carlisle has been even more ridiculed.

Great key backs are as precious as great key forwards. There not usually lying around as delisted free agents.

Drafting them always take years to come to fruition.

That's true, but we've done pretty well over the years at identifying players we can make to do the job, and not having to give up a gun player to make it happen. I like Carlisle and think he is a good player, but the trade you've suggested would be a huge win for one club, and I don't think that would be us.

When you consider what it cost us to get Richards, Bolton before him, and then a number of other defenders (Not Key defenders, but the point still stands), what you suggested for the trade was a lot to give up for Carlisle. You are spot on when you say they are valuable and hard to find, but that doesn't mean when you have the right recruiters, that there are good deals to be had for relatively little. That process is helped by free agency as well.

[tasmania60]

Totally agree back line seems to be bargain basement buys, working so far but really think we need some ready made back men for the next step ?

[Dosser]

Interesting that both of our KPDs started AFL life as forwards. Maybe we keep looking at forwards with a view to moving them back if we have too many (ie Reid).

[Reggi]

For what it is worth, Ruckman and key position defenders can be 'manufactured' trading for ostensibly a solid defender I.e. carlisle is as distinct from an out and out gun luck Josh Gibson is nuts. Really most key defenders are just reliable at getting the ball to,ground, usually you can find some failed forwards to do this task.

I don't think we need to desperately recruit one. We have Allir Allir and X Richards coming through. We can nominate Abe Davis who looks likely

[MightyBloods]

I think you will find GWS almost impossible to trade with. They are in a position of strength trade wise and seem to have a loathing for us when you see what they gave us for Mumford and how they refused to deal for Lamb instead using the PSD to get him for free.

Their time will come when a heap of high draft picks who are not getting a regular game flee back to Melbourne but I doubt we'll be able to snare any.

KPD is where we may have a weakness, that's why I think it's important LRT continues, just for back up whilst we develop other players. Still think Reid will become our longer term CHB, and a very good one too.

There is a kid I rate highly and he is now getting a regular senior game....Adam Tomlinson. I know the family and I can tell you that he wants to return to Melbourne with a strong preference to Richmond. Choco Williams (ex assist GWS coach) is an assistant coach/mentor at Richmond and still very popular with a number of GWS kids. Choco has to be the kid whisperer of the AFL.