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  • Gary
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2005
    • 608

    #46
    Rohan "Struggles to win the footy and needs to be more involved for longer"

    Originally posted by graemed
    I like the idea of a rotation policy and have narrowed the list to 26:

    2 Rhyce Shaw - should be interesting to see how he holds up after LARS, deserves his spot.
    3 Jarrad McVeigh - outstanding last year
    4 Daniel Hannebery - had a quiet finish to 2013 after setting the world alight early, will be tagged and needs to work through it.
    5 Ryan O'Keefe - looked to have really lost a yard and will struggle to maintain his midfield role despite his strength and fitness.
    6 Tom Mitchell - started sensationally but lost some form and then had trouble regaining his poise. Injuries always a problem.
    7 Harry Cunningham - has real speed and looks comfortable in seniors but too limited and needs to improve defensively to take on midfield role if required.
    8 Kurt Tippett - will play in ruck with Pyke, et al. Wonder what sort of a role coaching staff have in mind when resting as forward.
    9 Nick Malceski - was in great form until teams began to man him up. Needs to win his own ball more and be accountable defensively not just our best attacking defender.
    11 Jeremy Laidler - not required at Carlton under Mick but has good qualities and could be used if key defenders go down.
    12 Josh P Kennedy - contested possession and stoppages king, essential member of midfield.
    14 Craig Bird - best tagger in side. Graet in and under player and ablosute mud-lark. Solid but lacks pace.
    15 Kieren Jack - played below form in prelim but will use it as motivation to continue toward elite status
    16 Gary Rohan - needs to regain confidence. Still has genuine pace and kicks superbly. Struggles to win the footy and needs to be more involved for longer.
    20 Sam Reid - really missed him last year. Will be really keen to see how he fits into planning and how he may work whether iup forward, in midfield or down back.
    21 Ben McGlynn - really needs big year. Still best small forward on list but could be used more in midfield if rotation policy used. Lacks real pace and is sometimes exposed as a consequence.
    23 Lance Franklin - do not understand why we needed him, much less for 9 years but I'm sure glad we no longer have the problem of manning up on him.
    24 Dane Rampe - showed real promise as a defender, and continued to improve. Hope he can play a more attacking role this year as he is a natural forward.
    25 Ted Richards - another outstanding year and clearly one of our key players. Should have more tall support this year with LRT back and maybe Sam Reid, as well.
    26 Luke Parker - took a giant step last year adding marking and goal kicking to his already formidable ball winning and tackling skills.
    30 Lewis Roberts-Thomson - his loss to side balance cannot be overestimated. His role defensively whether in attack or back is vital. May be his last year.
    32 Lewis Jetta - whether injured or lacking drive, last year was a return to the bad old days. Poor conversion and lack of possessions notwithstanding he just didn't look as sharp or switched on. Looking for renewed spark.
    33 Brandon Jack - showed enough to recommend patience with Jack jnr. Real pace and good ball sense. Will get another chance probably at Benny's expense.
    34 Alex Johnson - has definitely gained weight during rehab but has resumed running and should be back to playing weight soon. Doubt about early availabilty probably April/May.
    37 Adam Goodes - also slow to resume full training probably on limited schedule due to importance to team and physio's looking to nurse him through the season injury free.
    38 Mike Pyke - with the loss of Mumford, he becomes vital to all planning. Unfortunately he has a history of injuries and is currently still in rehab squad.
    39 Heath Grundy - the enigma that is Reg; reliable and honest, tough and quick versus slow delivery and poor decision making, inaccurate disposals and dumb free-kicks. You gotta love him.
    40 Nick Smith - best small defender in team. Always gets the job done, rarely beaten.
    41 Lloyd Perris (R) - great prospect will get early oppourtunities, very fit and finds the footy, could be very good.
    46 Shane Biggs (R) - showed real poise under pressure and deserves more oppourtunities.

    Of the remaining players, injuries and form will dictate those most likely to be given an oppourtunity, but IMHO those who should be tried first are:

    10 Zak Jones - really good looking prospect. Very focussed in pre-season and has excellent skills. Small but tough. Could be good.
    13 Toby Nankervis - has looked very likely on track. Good marking and positioning, kicks well for goal and has good instincts. Fitness may be an issue and with our wealth of talls may have limited oppourtunites.
    17 Tommy Walsh - still in rehab group but looks super fit and very intense.
    18 Jordan Lockyer - probably last chance. Has not come along as well as some others but doing better on track this pre-season.
    19 Tom Derickx - probably first choice as back-up if either Tippett or Pyke goes down. Has looked impressive at training.
    22 Dean Towers - will need to improve defensively but looks exciting and could be best long term project.
    42 Xavier Richards (R) - liked his efforts in Magoos last year resolute, dependable and had good timing. Could be used more this year.
    Cannot but agree with the Rohan assessment ... the Geelong game (sorry ... cameo) is often referenced ... and he has had a bad run with injuries ... but the guy seems to lack the ability to get involved and influence games ... low impact ... just look at the stats ... I don't have them but am comfortable that they paint a pretty ordinary picture. Hope to be proved wrong but have no great expectations.

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    • swansrob
      Senior Player
      • May 2009
      • 1265

      #47
      He's played a grand total of 27 games and missed a season and half with a broken leg. Let's give the guy a chance

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        #48
        Jetta had a great 2012, but he too has often struggled to get into the game at times. The same can be said for Sam Reid. With Gary, the effort is certainly there, and surely he will learn how to have a greater impact with more game experience. With forwards and outside players, it take a bit more time to learn where to position yourself on the field as the play unfolds.

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        • Auntie.Gerald
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2009
          • 6480

          #49
          ive always thought of a faster Stevie J when I watch Gary

          the ability to do something mercurial out of nothing and both have great kicks that bring crowds to their feet

          Gary has the tough job at the height he is and it could be said even harder is the job for the third tall KPDefender on a player like Gazza

          I think bit by bit we may see Gaz see some time in the midfield in years to come and lets be honest with Tip, Buddy, Goodes, Reid, Rohan sharing the leads then Gazza has to evolve as do all players in a role like garys
          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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          • ernie koala
            Senior Player
            • May 2007
            • 3251

            #50
            Originally posted by Gary
            Cannot but agree with the Rohan assessment ... the Geelong game (sorry ... cameo) is often referenced ... and he has had a bad run with injuries ... but the guy seems to lack the ability to get involved and influence games ... low impact ... just look at the stats ... I don't have them but am comfortable that they paint a pretty ordinary picture. Hope to be proved wrong but have no great expectations.
            I hate to agree with this, but I do to a point. He has plenty of that dreaded stuff called potential, but has not fully impacted a game yet, the way, for example, Jetta has....or Alex Johnson has, or Tom Mitchell has.

            Having said that, he needs more games under his belt before a true assessment can be made...I'm cautiously optimistic.

            IMO, the biggest issue with Gaz is his reckless style when attacking a contest. Even before his injury I'd often find myself wincing when he attacked a contest.

            He seems a ripping bloke. Fingers crossed he has a big year....And future....with the Swans.
            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11339

              #51
              Originally posted by Gary
              Cannot but agree with the Rohan assessment ... the Geelong game (sorry ... cameo) is often referenced ... and he has had a bad run with injuries ... but the guy seems to lack the ability to get involved and influence games ... low impact ... just look at the stats ... I don't have them but am comfortable that they paint a pretty ordinary picture. Hope to be proved wrong but have no great expectations.
              This is not personal criticism Gary.....but that is rolled gold dribble. I just can't see how you can make a judgement on the few games he has played. Not that many draftees get a game in their first year and he had about the worst injury in the history of the game.
              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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              • Mr Magoo
                Senior Player
                • May 2008
                • 1255

                #52
                Originally posted by Nico
                This is not personal criticism Gary.....but that is rolled gold dribble. I just can't see how you can make a judgement on the few games he has played. Not that many draftees get a game in their first year and he had about the worst injury in the history of the game.
                Isnt it also gold dribble to start talking about the guy as being the next stevie J on that same basis. He is lightning quick no doubt , but he really hasnt had a breakout game yet albeit through extenuating circumstances.

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                • R-1
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 1042

                  #53
                  I think we need to see Rohan after a preseason. I'm certain he wasn't 100% in the games he came back for. The club talks pretty highly of him, I think he'll earn and keep a place.

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                  • tasmania60
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 276

                    #54
                    Originally posted by ernie koala
                    He may be training for a permanent tagging role. To compliment Bird.
                    Really think game might have left him, doesn't have the intentness and determination he once had may be last chance a waste .

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                    • ShockOfHair
                      One Man Out
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 3668

                      #55
                      Far too early to judge him. We still don't even know where he should play.
                      Jude is a huge fan:
                      Rohan in the running, says Bolton - sydneyswans.com.au
                      The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                      • Auntie.Gerald
                        Veterans List
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6480

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                        Isnt it also gold dribble to start talking about the guy as being the next stevie J on that same basis. He is lightning quick no doubt , but he really hasnt had a breakout game yet albeit through extenuating circumstances.
                        Bugger

                        i gave no context !

                        I did mean to say he reminds me of a young Stevie J..........ie at similar stages of their career but Rohan much quicker

                        Rohan is 8 years behind Stevie in accomplishments of course

                        both similar height and weight back at age 22.........both can pull a rabbit out of their hat

                        both are just as strong as mid sized forwards on the lead as well as at ground level

                        both very injury prone
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • graemed
                          Swans2win
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 410

                          #57
                          Since this latest discussion about Rohan seems prompted by my earlier reference may I say that I believe he is an integral player and while there may be comparisons to Stevie J. , personally I would rather compare him to dangerfield. He has similar build, similar pace, intensity of purpose and is very strong in the contest. My earlier comments stand but they are preempt end by the knowledge that till now he has been playing with limited preparation and that this may indeed be his first full preseason.

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                          • Melbourne_Blood
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2010
                            • 3312

                            #58
                            Dangerfielfd now? Dangerfield is a brute , Garry is similarly quick but I think that's where the comparison ends for me.

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                            • mariachi
                              Pushing for Selection
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 72

                              #59
                              It seems to me that it takes about fifty senior games for most players to find their feet and play to their potential. Rohan is halfway there and may take a bit longer given the injury and time out. But potential? He oozes it...

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                              • Big Al
                                Veterans List
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 7007

                                #60
                                According to the Chinese it'll be John Lomgmire who will be under most pressure to perform. They are already having celebrations in advance. Hope he doesn't let them down.
                                ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                                Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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