Are our losses due to the team not gelling well?

[Ludwig]

Your forward structure breaks down when you keep losing the ball in the midfield and the forwards come up to help out to gain possession by weight of numbers, but then you've go no one to kick to if you do win possession.

It's easy to beat the Swans. If you're fit enough and put pressure on us, we will turn over the ball repeatedly. Our skills are mediocre, at best.

We've often fallen back on Macca to provide that important precise kick, but he's been off so far this year, and it's hurt us.

[mcs]

Just checked some stats - clutching at straws here....57% win rate at the SCG (including some horrible years) versus 60% at Stadium Australia or whatever it is called now. Thought the figures would be a LOT worse. The grass always looks too bloody long at that ground. We should get out of that contract at the first chance in my opinion.

Note: I am from Melbourne and have never been to the stadium but I love the SCG!

It is an awful ground, and we don't draw crowds (bar in finals time) to justify playing there anymore. Once the contract is up, hopefully we tell them to go shove it and we play all our games at the SCG. But I'd expect they will throw good $$$ at the club to extend the deal out there and it'll be hard to turn them down. A turgid place to watch footy though, you end up spending half the game watching the screen as the play at the other end seems so far away.

[jono2707]

I agree with others that our forward structure was terrible last night. I think what we need to do to remedy that over the next 1 to 2 years is to go out and recruit 1 or 2 of the very best key forwards in the competition, regardless of the cost.....

[Ludwig]

I agree with others that our forward structure was terrible last night. I think what we need to do to remedy that over the next 1 to 2 years is to go out and recruit 1 or 2 of the very best key forwards in the competition, regardless of the cost.....

I think we should target Jesse White and Andreijs Everett. They're both quick and can kick long. White can also double in the ruck and Everett can play in defence as well. But stars like that are going to want big money and long contracts.

[Big Al]

It is an awful ground, and we don't draw crowds (bar in finals time) to justify playing there anymore. Once the contract is up, hopefully we tell them to go shove it and we play all our games at the SCG. But I'd expect they will throw good $$$ at the club to extend the deal out there and it'll be hard to turn them down. A turgid place to watch footy though, you end up spending half the game watching the screen as the play at the other end seems so far away.

The sporting public in both the NRL and AFL have voted with their feet regarding this awful ground. Time for the Swans and AFL to listen to their fans and get back to the SCG full time. A 48,000 seat stadium should be utilised more than 8 times a bloody year.

[Foreign Legion]

It is an awful ground, and we don't draw crowds (bar in finals time) to justify playing there anymore. Once the contract is up, hopefully we tell them to go shove it and we play all our games at the SCG. But I'd expect they will throw good $$$ at the club to extend the deal out there and it'll be hard to turn them down. A turgid place to watch footy though, you end up spending half the game watching the screen as the play at the other end seems so far away.

LOL - sounds a bit like the old VFL park - you needed a telescope to see what was happening at that ground. Unless the Swans get offered a million plus a year I'd play all games at the SCG - great surface and heaps of atmosphere - and as a bonus we get to see Kenny on the TV.

[barry]

ANZ is a great ground. Its actually a great shape for AFL being long and skinny. While we cant beat Collingwood, we can beat almost everyone else there, and the variety of homegrounds makes us a much better team.

I do not want to see us revert to an SCG -only style like we had under rocket eade.

[Cheer_Cheer]

I think we have been on a slide since the spilt round last year.. We smashed Adelaide in a skillful and ruthless performance.. Then had a weeks break and came back looking like a different team.. We haven't beaten anyone of note since (that I can remember ?).. Then all of a sudden with the recruitment of Buddy we are supposed to be the top of the heap again.. I wish I knew what was wrong. I suspect Horse does too. He is coaching like everything is OK. So many players looking really ordinary is a real worry. My point is that it has been a problem for longer than most seem to realise..

[aguy]

I think we have been on a slide since the spilt round last year.. We smashed Adelaide in a skillful and ruthless performance.. Then had a weeks break and came back looking like a different team.. We haven't beaten anyone of note since (that I can remember ?).. Then all of a sudden with the recruitment of Buddy we are supposed to be the top of the heap again.. I wish I knew what was wrong. I suspect Horse does too. He is coaching like everything is OK. So many players looking really ordinary is a real worry. My point is that it has been a problem for longer than most seem to realise..

Last year it was easy to say it was due to the high injury toll. And this year you could say that a number of those injured players are still not match hardened after only recently coming back from their injuries and a number of operations over the off season. Though I fear you may actually be right, maybe there is something else underlying it. I hope not. Still gotta keep supporting our bloods

[undy]

Last year it was easy to say it was due to the high injury toll. And this year you could say that a number of those injured players are still not match hardened after only recently coming back from their injuries and a number of operations over the off season. Though I fear you may actually be right, maybe there is something else underlying it. I hope not. Still gotta keep supporting our bloods

2005, we were 2 and 4 after round 6.

[chalbilto]

2005, we were 2 and 4 after round 6.

Won't work in 2014. If we get to 2 and 4 then we can start thinking about 2015 and an earlier start to pre-season training.

[tasmania60]

People why does the swans allow baseball to played on the SCG and have to travel away from home , i understand Sydney are only tenants but 20 something years why couldn't base ball be played at the other cattle ground . Look at the Crows /Port/ SA cricket works well . Sydney seem to be poor tenants , may be wrong but Collingwood game wouldn't have been so un inspiring.

[Triple B]

People why does the swans allow baseball to played on the SCG....

I guess they could threaten to leave the SCG and play all their games at ANZ. That would go down a treat with fans, lol...

[Derryn23]

1. Clearly, Horse didn't feel as though Pendles needed to be tagged. This was to our detriment. We had a fresh tagger in Bird yet decided against using him to qwell Pendlebury. Does O'Keefe have a role now??
2. To have Cunningham, Parker & Mitchell contesting the centre bounces when the game was to be won is stagering! Normally we would see Jack, Kennedy & Hannebery doing this when the going gets tough. Another question to be answered!
3. Where are our forward crumbers? When pumping the ball long into inside 50 it was frustrating to see an inept tall forward stucture no good at ground level. Bring in Brandon Jack next week. He eats crumbs for breakfast!
4. Tom Derickx - this muppet could only touch the ball 5 times and turned it over to the opposition on 3 occassions. If I was doing my job at only 20% I would have got the sack by now. Not to mention he didn't take 1 mark all night. Pyke and Reid took 14 between them so let's not use the conditions as an excuse.

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[#73]

buddy is not to blame!! everyone just sucked. its like they're all in a simultaneous form slump

this.

No point blaming the forward line as the ball is NOT GETTING DOWN THERE.