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  • Matt80
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2013
    • 1802

    #46
    A wins a win.

    I was impressed again with Rampe and Laidler. Rampe looks so impressive with the ball in hand. He is a great mover and never looks flustered. His delivery is improving.

    The midfield performances of Jack, Kennedy, Hanners and Parker was strong.

    Goodes looked sharp and still has that acceleration. He will get better in the coming weeks.

    Tom D had his best game and is improving. He is giving a good contest.

    I worry for LRT. We don't know which of Franklin, Reid or Tippett will be available next week. If two out of the three are available he will struggle to stay in. If all three are available then he will go out!

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    • barry
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 8499

      #47
      I agree about LRT. Reid will push him out next week.

      snyway, we are up to 9th and percentage over 100. 1 game and 4% behind 4th.

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      • goods78
        Warming the Bench
        • Sep 2012
        • 269

        #48
        That was one of the worst games of footy I have watched for a long time.

        Umpiring was terrible. Holding the ball was a lottery and I can't remember seeing as many throws followed by the umpires call 'he made an attempt'. Crazy.

        Against the weakest competition in the league, it looked like a bottom of the ladder contest. We played with no strategy moving the ball forward, our skills were poor and our intensity was down.

        Goodes showed polish with his finishing skills, but looked very timid and avoided physical confrontations.

        Add to this injuries, knocks and niggles - Buddy, McVeigh, Jetta, Hanner's, Jack.

        One step forward last week and now two back.

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        • goods78
          Warming the Bench
          • Sep 2012
          • 269

          #49
          Originally posted by barry
          I agree about LRT. Reid will push him out next week.

          snyway, we are up to 9th and percentage over 100. 1 game and 4% behind 4th.
          Your very positive Barry, but I don't think our form warrants it.

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          Originally posted by Matt80
          A wins a win.

          I was impressed again with Rampe and Laidler. Rampe looks so impressive with the ball in hand. He is a great mover and never looks flustered. His delivery is improving.

          The midfield performances of Jack, Kennedy, Hanners and Parker was strong.

          Goodes looked sharp and still has that acceleration. He will get better in the coming weeks.

          Tom D had his best game and is improving. He is giving a good contest.

          I worry for LRT. We don't know which of Franklin, Reid or Tippett will be available next week. If two out of the three are available he will struggle to stay in. If all three are available then he will go out!
          I agree Matt80 except for Tom D. He is an insurance policy that gets more expensive every week.

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          • Matt80
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Sep 2013
            • 1802

            #50
            With all these niggles to key players is it time for some "informed playing management" against Brisbane, in preparation for Geelong and the Hawks. Tom Mitchell, Garry Rohan,Brandon Jack and ROK could give a good burst against a weak Brisbane, while we give some of those niggles a rest.

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            • crackedactor
              Regular in the Side
              • May 2012
              • 919

              #51
              Originally posted by chalbilto
              3 positives from this ugly game - win, Goodes not getting hurt & Hanners running back into form.
              How can you miss 10 months of football and at 34 years old play like that first up - Goodsey never ceases to amaze me!!

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              • sprite
                Regular in the Side
                • Jan 2003
                • 813

                #52
                Is there a reasonable defender in the reserves at the moment?

                I feel Reg has become the weak link. He is too loose, is lost in traffic too easily.

                LRT - hmmm - time is up for the big fella. He no longer has a role, if Sam and Kurt are fit next week then there is no spot for him.

                Tom D is doing the job as second ruck / changing forward.

                Overall a scrappy win, where we were dragged down to the opposition level.
                sprite

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                • Slade
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 11

                  #53
                  That was the worst comfortable win I have ever seen the swans play.

                  The positives (these are hard to find)
                  - We won easily even though we were pathetic at times
                  - Rampe continues to get better, his run off half back and attack on the ball was excellent. He was my vote for our best player. Both Richards and Grundy had good games as well.
                  - Goodes - not up to his usual excellent self, particularly when attacking the ball but it was great to see his use of the ball. It looked as though he held himself back in some of the contests but his skills still allowed him to compete but not dominate.
                  - McGlynn worked his butt off.
                  - Kennedy still worked hard even though he was infringed in nearly every ruck contest.
                  - Bird played another great game - he reads the play well and seems to be in the right place at the right time.
                  - Pyke played much better than previous weeks. Still not up to last years standard though.
                  - I was pleased by the young guns - Cunningham and Lloyd. They worked hard both in attack and defence, particularly Cunningham. I agree that Lloyd should be given the ball more - he seems to use it well.

                  The bad
                  - LRT looks beyond it, he did not have an impact on the game and looked slow. This is sad as he is one of my favourite players.
                  - Our passing - how many times did we kick a slow loop to one of our players inviting Melb to get the ball, or just kick it to them. Very frustrating to watch.
                  - The umpiring was woeful and I would have lost my top if I was playing the game.
                  - Dericks looks awful in the rucks and slow and cumbersome otherwise
                  - I would help our game plan if we kicked the ball between the big sticks. We missed too many easy chances.

                  That is one game that I will not be watching again - it is bad for my blood pressure....

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                  • goods78
                    Warming the Bench
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 269

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Matt80
                    With all these niggles to key players is it time for some "informed playing management" against Brisbane, in preparation for Geelong and the Hawks. Tom Mitchell, Garry Rohan,Brandon Jack and ROK could give a good burst against a weak Brisbane, while we give some of those niggles a rest.
                    Who do you manage Matt80? If we rested Kennedy and Jack tonight we probably would have got rolled.

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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665

                      #55
                      Lacklustre!!!

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                      • aardvark
                        Veterans List
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 5685

                        #56
                        I thought Laidler was very good. Could be the next big thing in the recycled player category.
                        Welcome back Goodsy, absolute class! Here's an idea, piss off Franklin and Tippett and give Goodsy a 20 year 30 million dollar contract.

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                        • Reggi
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2718

                          #57
                          Back from the game. Some of our guys were content to win wouldn't describe it as a100% commitment effort

                          Our midfield was really good. Hanners and Jack were very good. Royce Shaw, whilst frustrate ting did return to form

                          Pyke is struggling. Derrickx was ok cannot see him being under pressure to hold his spot. He was our starting ruck again.

                          Lloyd is a promising player. He was burned by his teammates a lot when he made goodmposition that will come with time. Can understand why he went through to they rookie draft.

                          We have three slower midfielders in Kennedy bird and Parker I cannot see ROK getting back in.

                          LRT not many players go on past 30 yo. He has been a warrior for us but I think that based on what we have seen many players will be ahead of him by the middle of the year. No way could he play ruck
                          You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                          • ScottH
                            It's Goodes to cheer!!
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 23665

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Slade
                            That was the worst comfortable win I have ever seen the swans play.

                            The positives (these are hard to find)
                            - We won easily even though we were pathetic at times
                            - Rampe continues to get better, his run off half back and attack on the ball was excellent. He was my vote for our best player. Both Richards and Grundy had good games as well.
                            - Goodes - not up to his usual excellent self, particularly when attacking the ball but it was great to see his use of the ball. It looked as though he held himself back in some of the contests but his skills still allowed him to compete but not dominate.
                            - McGlynn worked his butt off.
                            - Kennedy still worked hard even though he was infringed in nearly every ruck contest.
                            - Bird played another great game - he reads the play well and seems to be in the right place at the right time.
                            - Pyke played much better than previous weeks. Still not up to last years standard though.
                            - I was pleased by the young guns - Cunningham and Lloyd. They worked hard both in attack and defence, particularly Cunningham. I agree that Lloyd should be given the ball more - he seems to use it well.

                            The bad
                            - LRT looks beyond it, he did not have an impact on the game and looked slow. This is sad as he is one of my favourite players.
                            - Our passing - how many times did we kick a slow loop to one of our players inviting Melb to get the ball, or just kick it to them. Very frustrating to watch.
                            - The umpiring was woeful and I would have lost my top if I was playing the game.
                            - Dericks looks awful in the rucks and slow and cumbersome otherwise
                            - I would help our game plan if we kicked the ball between the big sticks. We missed too many easy chances.

                            That is one game that I will not be watching again - it is bad for my blood pressure....
                            Good Summary.
                            Goodes did hold of on the tough stuff hanging back to get the ball. Was great to see him back.
                            You left off Shaw. Generally looked really good, but let himself down a few times with some really poor disposal as did McGlynn.
                            Hanners, worked his butt of to get into the game and it showed.
                            Jetta seems to either lack the speed or the confidence to run with the ball. Seems to get caught every time he tries. Woeful disposal as well.
                            Parker was hot and cold.

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                            • goods78
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 269

                              #59
                              Originally posted by sprite
                              Is there a reasonable defender in the reserves at the moment?

                              I feel Reg has become the weak link. He is too loose, is lost in traffic too easily.

                              ....
                              I can't agree with you sprite. Grundy is not our best defender, but he is not going anywhere. He gets the tough jobs every week on the monster forwards and resting rucks.

                              Our defence is the least of our worries at the moment.

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                              • dimelb
                                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 6889

                                #60
                                Good crowd, just under 25,000 with a lot of red and white.
                                Frustrating game to be at: messy, flashes of brilliance punctuating the endless clangers, turnovers, dropped balls, losing position... the list goes on.
                                The midfield was not bad, worked pretty solidly, especially Hannebery, McVeigh, Kennedy and Jack. Parker contributed but his radar was off tonight. Jetta was good in patches, Harry was good and Lloyd should be a fixture with his kicking (despite one turnover) and positioning - exceptional in such a young player. Benny worked hard and will have better days; I think his goal had a settling effect for us.
                                Ted was outstanding (I thought our best on field with McVeigh) and Mal was solid. Laidler and Shaw were patchy, both making good decisions at times, at other times horrible clangers that led to Melbourne goals. Smithy was generally good but also gave away a goal with a delivery straight to an opponent in the 50. Rampe was very good for most of his time on ground.
                                Goodes lifted the team when he came on: his calmness, accuracy and sheer presence was enough to justify the cheers whenever he touched the ball. Buddy was Ok, his radar was off too, but he and Kennedy were never paid for the holding they put up with; I really admire their restraint.
                                This team is unfortunately playing ugly football and I confidently predict they will not win a premiership if they keep it up ...
                                Last edited by dimelb; 26 April 2014, 11:27 PM.
                                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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