Round 8 changes V Hawthorn

[Alan]

Trying to put this thread back on track.

In: Towers, Tippet
Out BJ, Pyke
Sub Goodes

[aguy]

McGlynn

Mcglynn has been suggested before

[Meg]

Sub Goodes? Why??? Longmire said Goodes woke up today feeling 'terrific'. We need Goodes, Tippett and Reid all firing if we are to have a chance of winning.

[Matt80]

It may also depend on how Tom plays as well. If Tom can get by okay on Friday, I agree, why risk Pyke.

If Pyke were available, we most likely would have dropped Tom for Tippett. So it's just a bit of a downgrade in the ruck quality, but shouldn't have a major impact on the game if Tom can just compete like he did in the second half of the Brisbane game.

We should have an advantage in the midfield with Mitchell, Shiels and Sewell all out injured. Nonetheless, Hawthorn deserve to be heavy favourites. The only way to beat them is to bring relentless pressure, as Geelong did. Tippett can also play a big role with Lake being out. It was a long time ago, but Tippett took Shoenmakers to the cleaners in the prelim v. Adelaide, and I can't see who else can take him.

The one I like from the Hawks is Issac Smith. Amazing running capacity and brilliant long left foot kick. Reminds me of Michael Long. We need to stop him. Hanners got the job in that qualifying final.

Tippett did kill Shoenmakers in that final. Almost dragged Adelaide into the 2012 GF on his own. Sam Reid had played well against Shoenmakers as well. We just need a key forward to drag Josh Gibson out of the game. He is an amazing 3rd man up player and one of the key forwards needs to totally sacrifice his game to do that job.

[Matt80]

I reckon we should surprise Hawthorn. Drop Derickx and play Lloyd in the ruck

Come on Reggi! You blasted me for suggesting that Tippett could play some time in the ruck. This can't be your best solution to the ruck concern.

[aguy]

Sub Goodes? Why??? Longmire said Goodes woke up today feeling 'terrific'. We need Goodes, Tippett and Reid all firing if we are to have a chance of winning.

Agreed. This is not a week to be blooding towers

[barry]

Franklin will be named for promotional reasons but will be a late withdrawal.

In. Tippet, LRT.
Out. Pyke. Bj

Lrt to be 2nd ruck. Bj unlucky.

[liz]

I think it will be a blessing in disguise if Buddy is not available this week, particularly if Tippett is. It will remove the temptation to play four tall forwards, none of whom is fully match fit (or even fully fit). At some point they all need to play together if they are to start forming a cohesive forward unit that might make us genuine contenders. And realistically, this will probably happen before they are all fit. But just not against the Hawks, putting aside the fact that there will be focus on Buddy the first time he plays against the Hawks.

If we are to beat the Hawks, the team needs to be a hard running, tackling machine that puts maximum pressure on the Hawks ball carriers and makes the most of the opportunities that come its way. Bringing both Buddy and Tippett in this week will require the dropping of a running player (unless Derrickx can ruck on his own and one becomes a Pyke replacement, or they are prepared to use Reid or Tippett for short stints in the ruck). We'll need the likes of BJ, Harry and Lloyd to run, run, and run some more to get over the Hawks this week.

Later in the season, when (hopefully) the team is a little more consistent and cohesive, we might be able to beat them but good utilisation of multiple tall forward options. I just don't think any of the evidence so far this season suggests we're close to that point right now.

[aardvark]

Well, if you meant Champion Data, you should have said Champion Data, not fantasy points ... lol

Hmmm......Fantasy points/champion data....same thing really :sly:

[Auntie.Gerald]

bring the hawks with who ever we line up !!!

the Swans surprised me against Freeo with their intensity across all 22 players

lets see where we are at

[Ludwig]

I was thinking the same thing, Liz. Not good for the glitz, but we are probably better off without Buddy this week. We need to focus on the game, not Buddy.

Also agree about BJ. That little speedster, Billy Hartung, will probably get another gig and we will need the extra pace to keep up.

So probably just bringing in Tippett for Pyke would be the go.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Does it bother anyone else that Longmire never wants to commit to what is an obvious selection.

Instead of saying he'll "put his hand up to play" if he's fit, just say he'll play. We're not going to leave a fully fit Tippett out of the team, John.

[Slade]

Really looking forward to this game. K Jack was a revelation up front last week and adds to our forward structure - can also swap with McGlynn if he needs a rest. I think we will win this as our mids are now working together and go deeper and will work hard to pressure the kicker.

In: Tippett, Franklin (if fit)
Out: Pyke, BJ (for Franklin)

Tom D much better in second half last week, I did not realise he had only played 6 games. Maybe LRT will come in as second ruck but I think we will only play with TD in ruck.

Their injuries really stuff up their structure, particularly in the forwards and make them containable.

[hot potato]

Agree with Lizzie
And said it here last week , there will be lots of goal kickers without Buddy who didn't look right at the bit of training they showed.
He'll fit in eventually ...

[Mountain Man]

Goodes as a tagger to go to Gibson - all day, everywhere