Practice Match: Sydney Swans Reserves v UWS Giants

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  • Melb Blood Bro
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    • Jun 2014
    • 204

    #31
    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
    with Rampe and Laidler really settling in last year and this year you could argue the Swans maybe reluctant to let Shaw play on in 2015 and 33yrs of age........especially with Macca being able to play on the HBF and or Rohan being groomed on the HBF and Zak Jones looking likely and Harry Cunningham able to play that role also

    That frees up $1.85 mill pa approx for season 2015 !

    ROK - $400k pa
    LRT - $300k pa ?
    SHAW - $350k pa ?
    GOODES - $600k pa ?
    WALSH - $200k pa ?
    I think that Shaw has another year in him but they might be hesitant to extend his contract given that Teddy, Malcho and Reg are coming to the ends of their careers. It would be too unsettling for the four of them to leave in the space of a couple of years.

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    • Auntie.Gerald
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      • Oct 2009
      • 6476

      #32
      it could be a little unsettling but it has been a strong succession with Macca and Jack Captains
      Harry, BJ and Lloyd given game time and looking likely contenders for the 22 in the future
      ROK and LRT have not featured much
      Goodes missing 8 games or so this season along with Tippett injured alot in 2014
      Shaw though being very dominant this season after his first few games
      McGlynn becoming a heart and soul player in 2014 and setting the tone in pre season for all to follow

      There is still a tonne of leadership in the middle and either end of the field
      Last edited by Auntie.Gerald; 23 June 2014, 11:40 PM.
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • Auntie.Gerald
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        • Oct 2009
        • 6476

        #33
        not forgetting we have had some very significant leaders/characters leave the Swans over the last 5 years or so and we have continued to move forward in our stride but fair point 4 significant players in one season could hurt

        Jolly
        Davis
        O'Loughlin
        Crouch
        Hall
        Bradshaw
        Kirk
        Kennelly
        C.Bolton
        Jude
        Mattner
        Mumford


        probably not permitted to add White or Barlow to the above list of 12 players
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • Go Swannies
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          • Sep 2003
          • 5697

          #34
          Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
          not forgetting we have had some very significant leaders/characters leave the Swans over the last 5 years or so and we have continued to move forward in our stride but fair point 4 significant players in one season could hurt

          Jolly
          Davis
          O'Loughlin
          Crouch
          Hall
          Bradshaw
          Kirk
          Kennelly
          C.Bolton
          Jude
          Mattner
          Mumford


          probably not permitted to add White or Barlow to the above list of 12 players
          You inexcusably missed Ben Mathews.

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          • Auntie.Gerald
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            • Oct 2009
            • 6476

            #35
            NEAFL Wrap - Practice Match v UWS

            great to see Rohan off the HBF and the last few seconds show Swampy Marsh flying off HBF, running 60m and then letting fly one of his excellent kicks on the run for a 50m goal

            No reason why Marsh and Rohan could take over from Shaw and Mal in years to come on the HBF

            In fact if Rohan puts his mind to it he could knock Laidler right out of the 22 for a back spot and counter like TK !!!
            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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            • dimelb
              pr. dim-melb; m not f
              • Jun 2003
              • 6889

              #36
              Originally posted by Go Swannies
              You inexcusably missed Ben Mathews.
              Who is now (assistant) coaching at Melbourne.
              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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              • shaun..
                Stuck in Reserves
                • Jun 2007
                • 691

                #37
                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                NEAFL Wrap - Practice Match v UWS

                great to see Rohan off the HBF and the last few seconds show Swampy Marsh flying off HBF, running 60m and then letting fly one of his excellent kicks on the run for a 50m goal

                No reason why Marsh and Rohan could take over from Shaw and Mal in years to come on the HBF

                In fact if Rohan puts his mind to it he could knock Laidler right out of the 22 for a back spot and counter like TK !!!
                Would you say Marsh > Biggs at this point in their developments?
                Felt Biggs was a chance for some "regular" games this year, but Lloyd and not many injuries has derailed that thought.
                "In some ways we?re less predictable to ourselves and sometimes that can be detrimental because we don?t really know where we?re going" - P.Roos

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                • Conor_Dillon
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 1224

                  #38
                  Great to see Gaz finding a bit more of the footy on the weekend...definitely has all the phsyical attributes and skills to be a great half-back flanker. As long as his endurance is up to standard there's no reason he couldn't be a real weapon for us at the back end of this year.
                  Should be of note too that the reserves games against the UWS will be the highest standard games our seconds play so particular interest should be taken in the performances/stats of these. The number of high end draft picks that can't get a game at the Giants but would walk into any other bottom 12 team is borderline farcical.
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                  • Auntie.Gerald
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                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6476

                    #39
                    Shaun I think the easy answer is they both are not in the team as yet as there are other players ahead of them.......Marsh and Biggs that is

                    We obviously have very specific requirements for certain roles in the backline or forward line

                    Marsh i believe can do a Rampe role on the HBF in Snrs....... but if Marsh was to move into the midfield like the Swans coaching dept has initiated then he has Lloyd and Mitchell ahead of him and Robinson....... I think it truly depends on who is injured and their current role in Snrs for us to have a chance at working who will come in to Snrs when some one is out thru injury

                    Shaw being out certainly provides more of an opportunity for a Zac Jones style player then Marsh or Biggs

                    Biggs for me is naturally an outside player but not that quick......and doesnt look comfortable with a run with tight role........I like how Biggs plays but he is a little slow for an attacking defender and once again I think Rohan may have a real opportunity for the role of a little more attack like Shaw and maybe even this week !
                    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
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                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6476

                      #40
                      SwansTV: Marsh set for senior football - YouTube



                      last 30 seconds of the vid above show how sharp he can be with his mark and penetrating he can be with his defence and counter kicking....... which he appears to be able to kick 55 to 60m fairly easy when I have watched in ressies

                      first 2:30mins bit boring to watch

                      He was picked for a reason and dont forget he won the repeat sprints test at the AFL Draft which is a great effort !!!
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • Auntie.Gerald
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                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6476

                        #41
                        and good chance to watch him this wknd !
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
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                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6476

                          #42
                          In Profile: Harrison Marsh - sydneyswans.com.au

                          Another thing that is important to mention is that sometimes the development of a player switching roles in ressies depends alot on the list.........

                          ie ressies has been stacked with very good midfielders this season where as next season if we loose 7 or 8 experienced players and then the likes of Lloyd, Jones, Harry keep playing firsts and or we have a few injuries we will no doubt see the likes of Harrison with another pre season under his belt really start to rise up in ressies and start to dominate partly through effort but also through opportunity to truly play an inside role for longer periods of the game

                          the comment the coaches suggested after 2013/14 pre season was that he was fitter they now wanted him to start to dominate but that has been difficult due to having 8 or 9 midfielders in Mitchell, BJ, Lloyd, Robinson, Jones, Perris, Hewett, Heeney, Biggs etc etc all playing alot of ressie football this season and they are all equally dominant in wanting the ball and and are very fit.
                          Last edited by Auntie.Gerald; 25 June 2014, 07:29 AM.
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • Conor_Dillon
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 1224

                            #43
                            it could be said you're rather fond of Harrison, Auntie?
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                            • Auntie.Gerald
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                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6476

                              #44


                              yep occasionally I like to stick my neck out on certain young players coming through

                              I must admit I thought Lloyd was another season away from Snrs..........not because of skill or decision making but I thought he would have had to bulk up a little more......how wrong I was as he has played very well so far....and the umpiring of the game and our changes in attack have very much worked for a player like Lloyd and he has grabbed the opportunity with both hands

                              I was also a little surprised that the coaching dept dropped ROK and went with HarryC for so many weeks in a row but I think the matchups and Rok's drop in speed all went in Harrys favour along with Harrys very very good pre season where he was knocking alot of time off his 3km time trials etc
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • shaun..
                                Stuck in Reserves
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 691

                                #45
                                Thanks Auntie! Great feedback!
                                "In some ways we?re less predictable to ourselves and sometimes that can be detrimental because we don?t really know where we?re going" - P.Roos

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