Changes for Round 15 - GWS

[aguy]

Derrickx out. We haven't played well with both pyke and derrickx in the team. Too slow with both.

Shaw is a definite out with injury.

I think we should play either Tippett if he's fit and of not then nankervis to play forward and backup ruck. I also agree with the calls to make Lloyd the sub this week. No disrespect to him. I really like Lloyds play and decision making. I just think he's more of a running midfielder around the edge of the square more than a clearance inside player. Gotta get mcglynn back for that then being Lloyd on as players tire.

Jones to play the whole game as replacement for shaws position off half back.

BJ gets another game. He looked more comfortable in the contest. He had 17 disposals and laid 5 tackles. Granted his disposal wasn't the best all the time but he's definitely getting better over the last few weeks. He will be important for our depth.

OUTS: derrickx shaw
INS: Nankervis or tippet, mcglynn
SUB: Lloyd

[Dosser]

Biggs for Shaw would be exciting.

Not so Shaw about that. I think McVeigh will drop back to the HBF where he won AA honours and will be replaced in the mids by McGlynn.

Also, I will be shocked if Nankervis gets a game this year.

[Matt80]

I'm not sure about this two ruckman option. I would play the one ruckman who does does all centre bounces. Tippett can to some boundary throw ins in the forward 50.

I would have Pyke as the only ruckman, but rotate him regularly. Two senior games on, one senior game off. Tom D would fill in for the Pykes senior game off. That way they are both fresh to ruck solo for their games.

Ins - McGlynn and Membrey

Out - Tom D and Shaw

Lloyd the sub. Goodes and Cunningham to do some more work in the midfield.

[aguy]

I'm not sure about this two ruckman option. I would play the one ruckman who does does all centre bounces. Tippett can to some boundary throw ins in the forward 50.

I would have Pyke as the only ruckman, but rotate him regularly. Two senior games on, one senior game off. Tom D would fill in for the Pykes senior game off. That way they are both fresh to ruck solo for their games.

Ins - McGlynn and Membrey

Out - Tom D and Shaw

Lloyd the sub. Goodes and Cunningham to do some more work in the midfield.

That doesn't make sense. You say solo ruck with tippet to backup but you don't have tippet in your side and membrey is no backup ruck option. I like membrey but he is not tall enough to ruck like tippet. That's why I'd go for nanko instead

[Melbournehammer]

It makes no sense to me to bring in nankervis for derickx. We either go with one ruck and a spare bits or the existing two rucks.

Contrary to most here I actually thought dericx did all right. When rucking against Hampson he beat him. When against maric around the grounds it was mostly neutral. In the centre square pyke did most of it and then they would swap to play pyke forward and derickx behind the ball.

Pyke is getting overrated here on the basis of his good gf in 2012 and his marking pre Tippett. He is as limited as big tom in his own way. And if the two play as they did last night pykes endurance won't massively improve because he was mostly a long way from it

[aguy]

It makes no sense to me to bring in nankervis for derickx. We either go with one ruck and a spare bits or the existing two rucks.

Contrary to most here I actually thought dericx did all right. When rucking against Hampson he beat him. When against maric around the grounds it was mostly neutral. In the centre square pyke did most of it and then they would swap to play pyke forward and derickx behind the ball.

Pyke is getting overrated here on the basis of his good gf in 2012 and his marking pre Tippett. He is as limited as big tom in his own way. And if the two play as they did last night pykes endurance won't massively improve because he was mostly a long way from it

I understand your points.
I don't think we can play both Derickx and pyke. For me I think pyke
Has a little more upside. My reason for suggesting nankervis come in is that he has demonstrated in reserves he can play as a key forward and that is my suggested role for him in the seniors while he is able to provide backup ruck as well

[Matt80]

I was talking about the time when Tippett resumes playing.

This week the back up is Reid and we back the extra run. Membrey will provide more agility, more chasing and crisp finishing than one of the main ruckman.

[aguy]

I was talking about the time when Tippett resumes playing.

This week the back up is Reid and we back the extra run. Membrey will provide more agility, more chasing and crisp finishing than one of the main ruckman.

Ah no problem. I assumed you meant this week as the thread is changes for gws so was confused. I too like membrey and would love to see him get a go too. I've gotta stick by my choices though and go with nanko for this week.

In reality is likely that Rohan will get a recall as the selection committee tend to stick with the same players. He could actually play shaws role down back as that is what he has been doing in ressies. I suspect this is what they will do but I'd still prefer to see nanko or membrey come in

[Ludwig]

I agree with Aguy. I think if we give Tippett another week on the sidelines we can bring Nankervis in to play his role. In the ressies he has been playing the forward/backup ruck role and kicking lots of goals. Given our situation where our ruck position looks like our weak point, we should take this opportunity to get a senior game into Nanko and see if he's a viable option if Pyke and Tippett are out, as they have been for a good part of the season.

The way Derickx has been playing, it's hard to imagine Nanko would be worse. He must be close. I think he's been listed as an emergency at least twice this year, including this week.

I would hate to drop Lloyd after one poor game, especially since we've won every game when he's played. But the sub may be best for him next week.

[aguy]

I agree with Aguy.

Aww thanks Ludwig

[DamY]

I agree with both Ludwig and a guy

[Matt80]

I agree with Aguy. I think if we give Tippett another week on the sidelines we can bring Nankervis in to play his role. In the ressies he has been playing the forward/backup ruck role and kicking lots of goals. Given our situation where our ruck position looks like our weak point, we should take this opportunity to get a senior game into Nanko and see if he's a viable option if Pyke and Tippett are out, as they have been for a good part of the season.

The way Derickx has been playing, it's hard to imagine Nanko would be worse. He must be close. I think he's been listed as an emergency at least twice this year, including this week.

I would consider Toby N, but I'm interested more in his forward pressure than his goals. Has he been delivering 5 tackles in the Reserve Forward line a game? Can he lock the ball in? Will he be able to chase down Heath Shaw?

If he is not demonstrating the above defensive pressure then he needs to wait!

[Ludwig]

If he is not demonstrating the above defensive pressure then he needs to wait!

If he's been an emergency, you have to assume he's doing a lot right.

[707]

I think we need to manage Jones game time so he is cherry ripe for the finals :-) He looks like a first rounder should, loved 6 tackles in half a game.

On a more serious note, we can't play Pyke and Derickx again, just too top heavy and neither looks a threat around the ground or at FF. Think Pyke needs to play as he has the runs on the board.

So if Shaw doesn't come up, play Jones across HB, Reid to FF and either Biggs or Rohan in as sub for Derickx who goes out,

[Scottee]

If Tippett isn't fit (and I doubt he will be fit) then Toby is an obvious choice instead of Tom D because he plays like Tippett in that he is more of a forward-ruck than a ruck-forward. this makes Tippett's return easier as the set up will be similar.

I am seriously concerned with Gary Rohan's current form. Watching the reserves he has not been burning it up and last week looked lost against Port Adelaide. I think has has a serious confidence issue atm and would give him more time in the ressies to recapture his self belief.

As such the replacement for Shaw is really difficult if Mitchell is still unfit.

Might be forced to activate the rookie elevation on Biggs unless O'Keefe, Dick, Hewitt or Lockyer are considered in line for selection. Biggs is clearly the form player with the best credentials for a defensive position.