Round 14: Ainslie Tricolours v Sydney Swans Reserves

[707]

Tom Mitchell in the bests, might get a call up for next week. Biggs should be playing AFL but not sure what we will do with him at years end now he has had his two years on the rookie list.

[Nico]

You have ROK a Norm Smith Medalist and Mitchell who is highly rated. They should be able to carry the reserves team. If you have your two best players on the ball you should dominate.

The Reserves must be looking at when they can get Heeney and Mills back in the team.

Ah, Matty, it doesn't work that way.

[Matt80]

Ah, Matty, it doesn't work that way.

But what about Toby N and Naismith palming it down to Mitchell and ROK. They then would feed a handball to Towers on the burst who would delivers the ball straight to Membrey on the lead. Membrey would then slot the goals. If the ball gets into the Swans back line then Walsh and ROK would clear the ball.

Is there something I missed?

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But what about Toby N and Naismith palming it down to Mitchell and ROK. They then would feed a handball to Towers on the burst who would delivers the ball straight to Membrey on the lead. Membrey would then slot the goals. If the ball gets into the Swans back line then Walsh and ROK would clear the ball.

Is there something I missed?

Sorry meant Walsh and LRT would clear the ball.

[Ludwig]

Good to see Walsh make the best list. Would be nice if he did enough to get another year, even as a rookie (sure he can be delisted and no one would take him).

[ugg]

Highlights from 7:30 onwards but they are mostly Ainslie ones.

[Doctor]

You have ROK a Norm Smith Medalist and Mitchell who is highly rated. They should be able to carry the reserves team. If you have your two best players on the ball you should dominate.

The Reserves must be looking at when they can get Heeney and Mills back in the team.

Doesn't work that way dude. Think back to Roosy's focus on the "bottom 6" of any AFL team. I've seen junior teams with a couple of guns be belted by teams with fewer stars but far more depth. A couple of key guys on the opposition team can tag the stars and then the rest can do as they please. You lose team cohesion, players who create space for others, strength from more mature bodies etc etc

[ugg]

[gumby_bolts]

Not often that you see 45 disposals as the 2nd on the list. Holy batballs Biggs!

[liz]

It's also unusual (though not unwelcome) to see the number one ruckman rack up 9 tackles.

[Matt80]

It's also unusual (though not unwelcome) to see the number one ruckman rack up 9 tackles.

I noticed the 9 tackles from Naismith as well. That will impress Longmire. If he was not a rookie is he close to a senior debut?

[Ludwig]

Hard to believe the game was so close given those possession numbers.

Paddy Mitchell is very consistent. Horse likes that. I think he gets 5 disposals every game.

LRT is really pushing for selection. After the Port Adelaide game I think they might give him early retirement and open a spot on the senior list for Biggs to play the last 3 games of the regular season.

[ugg]

Judging by his scoring worm looks like LRT went off at quarter time or thereabouts

[liz]

Hard to believe the game was so close given those possession numbers.

Paddy Mitchell is very consistent. Horse likes that. I think he gets 5 disposals every game.

LRT is really pushing for selection. After the Port Adelaide game I think they might give him early retirement and open a spot on the senior list for Biggs to play the last 3 games of the regular season.

You can't replace a retired player with a rookie unless they are genuinely injured and unable to play at any level. The Saints tried to do this several years back with someone - Justin Peckett maybe? - and the AFLPA went up in arms about players being pushed into early retirement against their wishes so that a rookie listed player could be promoted. The AFL then tightened the rules to make it clear this isn't allowed.

Remember when Fosdike retired at the start of a season (2009?) and then Kennelly walked out shortly afterwards for his Irish sabbatical? We weren't permitted to promote a rookie to cover the loss of either, even though Fosdike retired due to injury. I believe it was more of a case of him not feeling he could keep playing at AFL level, rather than not able to play at any level at that point in time.

[Matt80]

You can't replace a retired player with a rookie unless they are genuinely injured and unable to play at any level. The Saints tried to do this several years back with someone - Justin Peckett maybe? - and the AFLPA went up in arms about players being pushed into early retirement against their wishes so that a rookie listed player could be promoted. The AFL then tightened the rules to make it clear this isn't allowed.

Remember when Fosdike retired at the start of a season (2009?) and then Kennelly walked out shortly afterwards for his Irish sabbatical? We weren't permitted to promote a rookie to cover the loss of either, even though Fosdike retired due to injury. I believe it was more of a case of him not feeling he could keep playing at AFL level, rather than not able to play at any level at that point in time.

Did Kennelly ever leave our list as he went on his Irish sabbatical? He returned in 2010. Did he have to be redrafted through the pre-season draft? Did the Swans have to pay him for his sabbatical?

[liz]

No, Kennelly remained on the list throughout and didn't have to be redrafted. But he wasn't available for selection that season. No idea whether he was paid his contracted salary while in Ireland. I would think probably not, but that would have been between Kennelly and the club. His salary would have counted in the salary cap regardless of whether or not he was actually paid it.