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  • Faunac8
    Senior Player
    • Mar 2014
    • 1548

    AFL 360 Kiss of Death?

    Should we be concerned with the whole panel tonight saying we are now a lock for the premiership? Robbo says he likes watching the Swans play and admires the way they play . King reckons we abandoned the so called " money ball approach "
    went bang bang with KT and Lance and are now a sure thing.
    Given what was being said after round four I think that we will handle expectation with out too much of an impact but having so many pundits jumping on board now is maybe a worry.
  • Melb Blood Bro
    On the Rookie List
    • Jun 2014
    • 204

    #2
    Originally posted by Faunac8
    Should we be concerned with the whole panel tonight saying we are now a lock for the premiership? Robbo says he likes watching the Swans play and admires the way they play . King reckons we abandoned the so called " money ball approach "
    went bang bang with KT and Lance and are now a sure thing.
    Given what was being said after round four I think that we will handle expectation with out too much of an impact but having so many pundits jumping on board now is maybe a worry.
    If only I'd put $200 on us prior to round 5.

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    • jono2707
      Goes up to 11
      • Oct 2007
      • 3326

      #3
      Kurt and Buddy broke our radar....

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      • Swanny40519
        Regular in the side.
        • Oct 2012
        • 469

        #4
        So we have gone from money ball to Bondi billionaires. Should be a movie in that.

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        • Conor_Dillon
          On the Rookie List
          • Jun 2013
          • 1224

          #5
          Kingy didn't say we abandoned 'money-ball' he said we used it successfully to a point and then we added the cream on top in Tip and Bud...was a pretty good summation actually!

          I think it is also fair to say that part of the Swans taking the risk with Buddy and the associated $$ was to do with Heeney and Mills, the hierarchy knew that if a midfielder was squeezed out due to cap room that we had a couple of guns coming through anyway
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          • mcs
            Travelling Swannie!!
            • Jul 2007
            • 8168

            #6
            I very much doubt we've abandoned moneyball. I expect it will be our dominant recruitment strategy over the next several years - just plugging the holes where we need to, topping up the list, as we aren't going to have big $$$$ to chase after free agency superstars.
            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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            • aardvark
              Veterans List
              • Mar 2010
              • 5685

              #7
              On The Couch Round 16 2014 - Swans love-in! - YouTube

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              • Nico
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 11339

                #8
                Originally posted by mcs
                I very much doubt we've abandoned moneyball. I expect it will be our dominant recruitment strategy over the next several years - just plugging the holes where we need to, topping up the list, as we aren't going to have big $$$$ to chase after free agency superstars.
                Goodes, ROK and LRT retiring at the end of the year should free up a bit in the cap, even allowing for Buddy's billion $ deal.
                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                • Mel_C
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 4470

                  #9
                  You can never say that a team is a lock in for the premiership. Look at the hawks in 2012 or the cats in 2008.

                  But I certainly hope they are right ????.

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                  • jono2707
                    Goes up to 11
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 3326

                    #10
                    I don't think we've abandoned the 'Moneyball' approach either, but our 2 big signings of the last 2 years are perhaps what you could call a temporary departure from this, notwithstanding the addition of Laidler and Derickx this year. I think our 2 blockbuster signings are more a response to the AFL's decision to add another team to the difficult Sydney market - the Swans have been proactive, aggressive and clever in adding a key player in Tippett and a bona fide star in Buddy in response to the GWS threat. I'm sure the powers that be at AFL house were neither expecting nor are particularly happy about our responses during this time but it's certainly shown how ahead of the curve the Swans' management really is.

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                    • wolftone57
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 5857

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nico
                      Goodes, ROK and LRT retiring at the end of the year should free up a bit in the cap, even allowing for Buddy's billion $ deal.
                      Yes you are right Nico I too believe these players will all retire at the end of the year. Shaw might as well, we'll see soon enough. with Shawie it is not a matter of him losing it, he was actually playing very well, but injury. If he gets any more soft tissue injuries I think he will pull the plug. I don't give a stuff what these guys think quite frankly. We always do the things that matter for the club. Our blokes will not be looking at premierships this week, they will be looking at Carlton.

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                      • ShockOfHair
                        One Man Out
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 3668

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
                        Kingy didn't say we abandoned 'money-ball' he said we used it successfully to a point and then we added the cream on top in Tip and Bud...was a pretty good summation actually!

                        y
                        At least he didn't call it Over-the-Moneyball.

                        I do hate being frontrunners, thinking of what Hawks did to Geelong in 08 and what we did to Hawks in '12. But usually the premier is the team that is best in the comp in the second half of the year, which puts a question mark over Port who got out of the boxes early, and has a good run with injuries, which probably rules out Hawks. Leaving us and Freo.
                        The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                        • MightyBloods
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 532

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jono2707
                          I don't think we've abandoned the 'Moneyball' approach either, but our 2 big signings of the last 2 years are perhaps what you could call a temporary departure from this, notwithstanding the addition of Laidler and Derickx this year. I think our 2 blockbuster signings are more a response to the AFL's decision to add another team to the difficult Sydney market - the Swans have been proactive, aggressive and clever in adding a key player in Tippett and a bona fide star in Buddy in response to the GWS threat. I'm sure the powers that be at AFL house were neither expecting nor are particularly happy about our responses during this time but it's certainly shown how ahead of the curve the Swans' management really is.
                          Agree totally.

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                          • MightyBloods
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 532

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ShockOfHair
                            At least he didn't call it Over-the-Moneyball.

                            I do hate being frontrunners, thinking of what Hawks did to Geelong in 08 and what we did to Hawks in '12. But usually the premier is the team that is best in the comp in the second half of the year, which puts a question mark over Port who got out of the boxes early, and has a good run with injuries, which probably rules out Hawks. Leaving us and Freo.
                            History tells you that any team on a winning run like us gets to at least a grand final. Just look at the last years we had a run like this. Also, without being cocky, teams around us don't have the same depth and injuries now starting to stretch their list and fitness. Fingers crossed ..we can stay reasonably healthy.

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                            • aardvark
                              Veterans List
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 5685

                              #15
                              Swans' list best in his time, says Malthouse - AFL.com.au

                              Malthouse said astute recruiting and patience rather than use of the contentious cost of living allowance had put the Swans in such a strong position.

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