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  • joemoore12
    Warming the Bench
    • Apr 2012
    • 284

    Masters of List Management

    Just a little reminder to all the critics of our salary cap/list management. NO club has done as well with their list management as us. With only two Top 10 draft picks, we have been a step ahead in Drafting/Trading and Free Agency, which has been complimented by some of the best rookie list elevations and development coaching that you will ever see. This all seems to have been lost over the past couple of seasons, as our ongoing success has all been put down to the COLA.

    Rhyce Shaw - Traded in from Collingwood
    Jarrad McVeigh - Pick 5
    Dan Hannebery - Pick 30
    Ryan O'Keefe - Pick 56
    Tom Mitchell - Father/Son
    Harry Cunningham - Rookie List
    Kurt Tippett - Pre-Season Draft (Adelaide)
    Nick Malceski - Pick 64
    Zak Jones - Pick 15
    Jeremy Laidler - Traded in from Carlton
    Josh Kennedy - Traded in from Hawthorn
    Craig Bird - NSW Scholarship (Nelson Bay)
    Kieren Jack - Rookie List
    Gary Rohan - Pick 6
    Tom Derickx - Traded in from Richmond
    Sam Reid - Pick 38
    Ben McGlynn - Traded in from Hawthorn
    Dean Towers - Pick 22
    Buddy Franklin - Free Agent (Hawthorn)
    Dane Rampe - Rookie List
    Ted Richards - Traded in from Essendon
    Luke Parker - Pick 40
    Lewis Roberts-Thomson - Pick 29
    Lewis Jetta - Pick 14
    Brandon Jack - Rookie List
    Alex Johnson - Pick 57
    Adam Goodes - Pick 43
    Mike Pyke - International Rookie
    Heath Grundy - Rookie List
    Nick Smith - Rookie List
    Jake Lloyd - Rookie List
    Shane Biggs - Rookie List
  • Robtorq
    On the Rookie List
    • Oct 2013
    • 31

    #2
    Maybe that is why Eddie wanted Horse to work with him on the international series. So he could learn how to run A club

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    • ShockOfHair
      One Man Out
      • Dec 2007
      • 3668

      #3
      Yep. Someone pointed out that against Carlton with a squillion (OK maybe 8? 10?) top 12 picks, we fielded just three. Took me a little while to figure out who they were
      The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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      • Primmy
        Proud Tragic Swan
        • Apr 2008
        • 5970

        #4
        Brandon Jack is Rookie List from Swans Academy, isn't he?

        Good post.

        - - - Updated - - -

        Originally posted by Robtorq
        Maybe that is why Eddie wanted Horse to work with him on the international series. So he could learn how to run A club
        Gold
        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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        • Mel_C
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 4470

          #5
          What annoys me is that the only thing that is talked about is getting Tippett and Buddy when we won our premierships without them! Plus after explaining 500 million times that the cola is spread over ALL players, everyone still says that we use it to pay for Buddy and Tippett.

          And the whining about the academy when we haven't even drafted anyone yet. They don't seem to realise that without the academy some of these players would not be playing AFL.

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          • Derryn23
            On the Rookie List
            • Mar 2012
            • 10

            #6
            Originally posted by joemoore12
            Just a little reminder to all the critics of our salary cap/list management. NO club has done as well with their list management as us. With only two Top 10 draft picks, we have been a step ahead in Drafting/Trading and Free Agency, which has been complimented by some of the best rookie list elevations and development coaching that you will ever see. This all seems to have been lost over the past couple of seasons, as our ongoing success has all been put down to the COLA.

            Rhyce Shaw - Traded in from Collingwood
            Jarrad McVeigh - Pick 5
            Dan Hannebery - Pick 30
            Ryan O'Keefe - Pick 56
            Tom Mitchell - Father/Son
            Harry Cunningham - Rookie List
            Kurt Tippett - Pre-Season Draft (Adelaide)
            Nick Malceski - Pick 64
            Zak Jones - Pick 15
            Jeremy Laidler - Traded in from Carlton
            Josh Kennedy - Traded in from Hawthorn
            Craig Bird - NSW Scholarship (Nelson Bay)
            Kieren Jack - Rookie List
            Gary Rohan - Pick 6
            Tom Derickx - Traded in from Richmond
            Sam Reid - Pick 38
            Ben McGlynn - Traded in from Hawthorn
            Dean Towers - Pick 22
            Buddy Franklin - Free Agent (Hawthorn)
            Dane Rampe - Rookie List
            Ted Richards - Traded in from Essendon
            Luke Parker - Pick 40
            Lewis Roberts-Thomson - Pick 29
            Lewis Jetta - Pick 14
            Brandon Jack - Rookie List
            Alex Johnson - Pick 57
            Adam Goodes - Pick 43
            Mike Pyke - International Rookie
            Heath Grundy - Rookie List
            Nick Smith - Rookie List
            Jake Lloyd - Rookie List
            Shane Biggs - Rookie List
            Laidler wasn't even worthy of a trade by Carlton. He was delisted and we picked him up in the preseason draft.

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            • Dosser
              Just wild about Harry
              • Mar 2011
              • 1833

              #7
              Originally posted by Derryn23
              Laidler wasn't even worthy of a trade by Carlton. He was delisted and we picked him up in the preseason draft.
              I still keep chuckling about that. He plays in our firsts while Malthouse lauds our reserves as being the best depth he has ever seen. Obviously not good enough to be a Carlton flog, though.

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              • Jewels
                On the Rookie List
                • Oct 2006
                • 3258

                #8
                Originally posted by Derryn23
                Laidler wasn't even worthy of a trade by Carlton. He was delisted and we picked him up in the preseason draft.
                Without checking my facts, Derickx was picked up after being delisted also wasn't he?

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                • Bloods05
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 1641

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mel_C
                  They don't seem to realise that without the academy some of these players would not be playing AFL.
                  Or even Aussie Rules.

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                  • Auntie.Gerald
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6480

                    #10
                    very true Joe
                    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                    • wedge.maverick
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 245

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jewels
                      Without checking my facts, Derickx was picked up after being delisted also wasn't he?
                      Both Laidler and Derickx were picked up as delisted free agents and cost us nothing. I wonder if any other clubs would have added them to their list. I think not.
                      I FEEL THE NEED FOR SPEED!!!!!

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                      • Mel_C
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 4470

                        #12
                        Some idiot called up SEN to support Eddie and give some "facts". He said that we got the Jack brothers as freebies. Unbelievable!

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8166

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mel_C
                          What annoys me is that the only thing that is talked about is getting Tippett and Buddy when we won our premierships without them! Plus after explaining 500 million times that the cola is spread over ALL players, everyone still says that we use it to pay for Buddy and Tippett.

                          And the whining about the academy when we haven't even drafted anyone yet. They don't seem to realise that without the academy some of these players would not be playing AFL.
                          I wonder if you read the same article I did on the roar today Mel? I read an article today with all the Melbourne based flogs ranting on it there, including the really annoying Gene guy on the Roar, who is one of those exceptionally painful Geelong fans. Can't wait to absolutely belt them into the dust in September.

                          We have done so well with few top picks used/actually making it to the top level.
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • mcs
                            Travelling Swannie!!
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8166

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dosser
                            I still keep chuckling about that. He plays in our firsts while Malthouse lauds our reserves as being the best depth he has ever seen. Obviously not good enough to be a Carlton flog, though.
                            Malthouse lost the plot a long time ago. Laidler is doing just fine for us - if he's a lucky boy, he might be a Premiership player by the end of the year also. Something that wouldn't have happened any time soon at that flogsville called Carlton!
                            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                            • Meg
                              Go Swannies!
                              Site Admin
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 4828

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mcs
                              I wonder if you read the same article I did on the roar today Mel? I read an article today with all the Melbourne based flogs ranting on it there, including the really annoying Gene guy on the Roar, who is one of those exceptionally painful Geelong fans. Can't wait to absolutely belt them into the dust in September.

                              We have done so well with few top picks used/actually making it to the top level.
                              You are right in your description of that Gene guy on the Roar. He damned the Swans early in the season (when we started poorly) gleefully predicting a dismal year for us. He never misses an opportunity to make a nasty comment about the Swans. But funnily enough he went missing for a week after we humiliated Geelong and since he has re-emerged as a frequent bitter contributor on the Roar he has never once referred to that match. A really unpleasant person I suspect.

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