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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    #16
    Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
    Think you mean Pridham! Sorry to be a spelling-Nazi.
    This is clearly a coded message. I think he actually means Pilgrim, like in Pilgrim_of_Plymouth.jpg

    Originally posted by Matt80
    I still believe these things should not be played through the media.

    Eddie attacks the issues, but never mentions the AFL in prosecuting the issues. Eddie then meets with the AFL and I?m sure he is a thoroughly charming individual behind the closed doors. He does meet the AFL having swayed public opinion to his cause, which is powerful.

    Pildrim should be working behind the scenes and building bridges with the other three Northern Clubs. The four Northern Presidents should be having joint meetings with Gillion and Dillion and putting through the arguments in favour of the Academy systems.
    By all means Pildrim can publicly put through his arguments as to why the Academies are in the best interest of the greater game, but don?t publicly tell the AFL how to do its job.

    Gillion has been in the job a short time and the situation is not at the point where you need to make public statements about his approach to the job.

    If there arguments are strong enough in favour of the academies then we will win. Gillion is from a business strategy background and I believe he has the capacity to make decisions based on sound logic not populist backflips. Give the guy a chance.
    Then there are the 4 Northern Presidents -- Rushmore2.jpg

    And Gillion and Dillion must be code for Billion, probably a reference to the Bondi Billionaires:

    FRANKLIN Lance.pngTIPPETT Kurt.png

    Since pilgrims dress in the Collingwood colours, there may be some connection there.

    But what does it all mean? How does it all fit together?

    I'll probably be up all night working on this puzzle, but I'll try to get the answer before sunrise.

    Don't tell me Matt. I want to work it out on my own.
    Last edited by Ludwig; 25 July 2014, 12:02 PM.

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    • Bloods05
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2008
      • 1641

      #17
      When there is a power vacuum at the top, we can't allow Eddie to have exclusive occupancy of it. Even the master strategist Kochie would agree with that.

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      • mcsquirta
        Warming the Bench
        • Jul 2014
        • 110

        #18
        Originally posted by Zlatorog
        I believe that people are missing a point about why Andrew needed to do this interview. I think that he is afraid that some of that mud that Eddie is throwing at Sydney Swans might stuck and people in Sydney (or NSW) start believing that the Swans are doing something against the rules.
        Also, it's the Swan's job in NSW to increase interest/convert supporters of other codes to AFL. Anyone who is even just a little bit interested in AFL will think exactly what you said, and probably switch off to the idea.

        I think the reason Pridham might have done the interview could also be for the education of the NSW public - who the AFL needs to expand the game, and yet lets McGuire get away with semi-hysterical accusations of "rigging", which unfairly degrades the Swans - as well as the game in general - and is an unjustified setback to developing support for AFL in Sydney.

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16733

          #19
          McLachlan might already have been in his current job a short while but he's hardly new to the AFL. Did he not used to be in charge of communications or something of that ilk? And Fitzpatrick and the rest of the commissioners have all been around a while.

          "Interesting" fact about McLachlan I just discovered - he has three children...one is called Edie and another is called Sydney...

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          • ShockOfHair
            One Man Out
            • Dec 2007
            • 3668

            #20
            Originally posted by Bloods05
            When there is a power vacuum at the top, we can't allow Eddie to have exclusive occupancy of it. Even the master strategist Kochie would agree with that.
            As Shane Crawford, that great philosopher and keen observer of the human condition, would say:

            "That's what I'm talking about!"
            The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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            • MightyBloods
              Regular in the Side
              • Feb 2012
              • 532

              #21
              Originally posted by liz
              McLachlan might already have been in his current job a short while but he's hardly new to the AFL. Did he not used to be in charge of communications or something of that ilk? And Fitzpatrick and the rest of the commissioners have all been around a while.

              "Interesting" fact about McLachlan I just discovered - he has three children...one is called Edie and another is called Sydney...
              and the other called Bud?

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              • cherub
                Warming the Bench
                • May 2010
                • 239

                #22
                Originally posted by Matt80
                I still believe these things should not be played through the media.

                Eddie attacks the issues, but never mentions the AFL in prosecuting the issues. Eddie then meets with the AFL and I?m sure he is a thoroughly charming individual behind the closed doors. He does meet the AFL having swayed public opinion to his cause, which is powerful.

                Pildrim should be working behind the scenes and building bridges with the other three Northern Clubs. The four Northern Presidents should be having joint meetings with Gillion and Dillion and putting through the arguments in favour of the Academy systems.
                By all means Pildrim can publicly put through his arguments as to why the Academies are in the best interest of the greater game, but don?t publicly tell the AFL how to do its job.

                Gillion has been in the job a short time and the situation is not at the point where you need to make public statements about his approach to the job.

                If there arguments are strong enough in favour of the academies then we will win. Gillion is from a business strategy background and I believe he has the capacity to make decisions based on sound logic not populist backflips. Give the guy a chance.
                I think you are being naive. McLachlan has said "boys, stop fighting. Maguire ignores this. Andrew does the right thing. McLachlan does nothing. Andrew has spoken privately. It hasn't been effective. It is naive to think that fairness and logic win out even most of the time in organisations. That's why Maguire is trying to generate public support. That's why Pridham has to counter it. And McLachlan has been as impressive as a wet dishmop. What was he doing having a dinner that was almost certainly going to exclude most of the interstate coaches.? He has just reinforced the Viccentric nature of his perspective. It is Andrew's job to fight for what is fair and right for Sydney. And that includes influencing public opinion. Timing is crucial. The time to give McLachlan a chance is time Maguire uses to shore p public opinion for his own ends. I turned on to watch the Dockers-St Kilda debacle, and half of Maguire's intro was dissing the Swans. I am now boycotting Fox-which is a pain in Perth.

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                • Matt80
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 1802

                  #23
                  Originally posted by cherub
                  I think you are being naive. McLachlan has said "boys, stop fighting. Maguire ignores this. Andrew does the right thing. McLachlan does nothing. Andrew has spoken privately. It hasn't been effective. It is naive to think that fairness and logic win out even most of the time in organisations. That's why Maguire is trying to generate public support. That's why Pridham has to counter it. And McLachlan has been as impressive as a wet dishmop. What was he doing having a dinner that was almost certainly going to exclude most of the interstate coaches.? He has just reinforced the Viccentric nature of his perspective. It is Andrew's job to fight for what is fair and right for Sydney. And that includes influencing public opinion. Timing is crucial. The time to give McLachlan a chance is time Maguire uses to shore p public opinion for his own ends. I turned on to watch the Dockers-St Kilda debacle, and half of Maguire's intro was dissing the Swans. I am now boycotting Fox-which is a pain in Perth.
                  I believe we have no basis to judge Gill as yet. You are right when you say that logic and fairness don't always win out, but let's give Gill a clean slate.

                  I would like to see some forward media attack from Pridham:

                  - Ringing in to Eddie's Triple M Radio show and asking for an on the spot debate on the Academy's. If Eddie does not want to put the call on live, make it known on the Swans website that Maquire did not want to have the debate. The headline could be "Scaredy Eddie".

                  - Turn up to the Fox Footy studio and ask for a Friday Night half time debate with Eddie. If he refuses just run with "Scaredy Eddie" again.

                  - Invite Eddie up for a tour of the QBE Academy. Get him to talk to some of the kids about the sports options in Sydney.

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                  • CureTheSane
                    Carpe Noctem
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 5032

                    #24
                    Can only compare Pridham and McLughlan as they have been in theor roles for about the same amount of time.
                    One had been a leader, one has been seen to be subordinate to others.
                    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16733

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Matt80
                      I believe we have no basis to judge Gill as yet. You are right when you say that logic and fairness don't always win out, but let's give Gill a clean slate.

                      I would like to see some forward media attack from Pridham:

                      - Ringing in to Eddie's Triple M Radio show and asking for an on the spot debate on the Academy's. If Eddie does not want to put the call on live, make it known on the Swans website that Maquire did not want to have the debate. The headline could be "Scaredy Eddie".

                      - Turn up to the Fox Footy studio and ask for a Friday Night half time debate with Eddie. If he refuses just run with "Scaredy Eddie" again.

                      - Invite Eddie up for a tour of the QBE Academy. Get him to talk to some of the kids about the sports options in Sydney.
                      Get a friend to go onto "Who Wants to Be A (Bondi) Billionaire" and get them to "call a friend", preferably on question 1. When they call you, rather than read out the question they want your help on, get them to ask you to explain the purpose of the academies.

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                      • i'm-uninformed2
                        Reefer Madness
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 4653

                        #26
                        Given the AFL is apparently set to pull one of the great swifties of all time and change the rules just prior to the draft so we have to use our first two picks to get Heeney - or so the reports suggest - Mr Prez is perfectly entitled to call Gil for being a pea-hearted spud.
                        'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                        • mcsquirta
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 110

                          #27
                          Well clearly Andrew has decided to fight Eddie's mass saturation of wild accusations with mass saturation of reasoned responses, but in the much less 'shouty' medium of print, in the new Sam R.R. Lane Trilogy "Lord of the Swans". Go Swans, Go Adelaide (for this week only!)

                          Show us who's boss, Swans chairman Andrew Pridham tells Gillon McLachlan

                          Swans chairman blasts attack on club

                          Andrew Pridham upholds a grand tradition in defence of the Swans

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                          • dimelb
                            pr. dim-melb; m not f
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 6889

                            #28
                            Last night at the Jude Bolton dinner I made a point of thanking Andrew for his response to Fat Bastard and wished more power to his arm. He obviously doesn't want to start a fracas but also won't back away from it. Good on him.
                            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              #29
                              Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                              Given the AFL is apparently set to pull one of the great swifties of all time and change the rules just prior to the draft so we have to use our first two picks to get Heeney - or so the reports suggest - Mr Prez is perfectly entitled to call Gil for being a pea-hearted spud.
                              I just cant see it happening. 2 picks for 1 player in the Draft changes the Draft completely. Its a major structural change.

                              The pea hearted lion needs to find his courage or he's going to create a mess

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                              • i'm-uninformed2
                                Reefer Madness
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 4653

                                #30
                                Originally posted by barry
                                I just cant see it happening. 2 picks for 1 player in the Draft changes the Draft completely. Its a major structural change.

                                The pea hearted lion needs to find his courage or he's going to create a mess
                                My money is its happening.

                                The proposal is if someone lodges a bid a certain margin above ours - so say someone lodges pick 4 when we're at 18 and the margin for invoking the rule is 10 picks higher - we will be forced to use 18 and our next one.

                                And what's worse is, they are going to bring it in for this year's draft.

                                And our opponents whine about rorting.
                                'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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