Changes for Rnd 21 V St Kilda.

[wolftone57]

if players are injured and they are, they need to rest. Not only that I am sure Benny has thought about his getting injured just before the 2012 GF.

I think the players coming in are pretty good. Towers played a very good defensive forward role on two different players. Biggs was wonderful in our games toward the end of 2013, especially the Hawks game at ANZ. I was pretty peeved that we didn't play him the week after against Hawks. I think that was a mistake as we played injured players instead of a healthy team.

[swansrob]

Biggs is amazing, I wouldn't mind him being offered a senior spot next season. Maybe allow Smooch to finally move into the midfield

Correct me if I'm wrong, people, but isn't this Biggs' third year on the rookie list, meaning he has to be either upgraded or cut (hopefully upgraded) at year's end?

[DamY]

Yeh,senior listed or cut. That's it!

[bloodbloods]

Yeh,senior listed or cut. That's it!

Little unlucky to not get on to the senior list after finals campaign last year I thought

[Zlatorog]

Guys, some of you must have lived under the rock, so you don't know that Biggs has already been upgraded to the senior list together with Naismith.

[ShockOfHair]

Biggs was bigged up to the senior list ages ago. Like last week.

[rb4x]

Biggs elevation to the senior list is only for this year as a long term injury replacement for Aliir, likewise naismith for Derickx. It does not guarantee them a place for next year. Interesting that our three emergencies tomorrow are all 2013 draftees while the 2012 draftees, Membrey, Marsh and Dick and 2011 draftee Lockyer are all in the two's. We have five second and third year rookies on our list and at least four of them must be upgraded or let go at the end of the year unless the AFL changes the rules again. I would see Biggs, Lloyd, Naismith and X Richards all deserving of elevation at the end of the year which would leave Robinson as a third year rookie. Upgrading four means that we need to clear a minimum of six positions on our senior list and more likely eight given we like to do some trading. There will be some retirements LRT already and ROK and maybe Shaw and we could see one or two leave for greener pastures (maybe Malceski and Walsh back to ireland) but if I was Lockyer, Dick or Marsh I would be pulling out all stops to show that I am still worth a place on the swans list.

[Reggi]

Biggs current upgrade is only temporary. I assume it will be permanent

[liz]

Biggs elevation to the senior list is only for this year as a long term injury replacement for Aliir, likewise naismith for Derickx. It does not guarantee them a place for next year. Interesting that our three emergencies tomorrow are all 2013 draftees while the 2012 draftees, Membrey, Marsh and Dick and 2011 draftee Lockyer are all in the two's. We have five second and third year rookies on our list and at least four of them must be upgraded or let go at the end of the year unless the AFL changes the rules again. I would see Biggs, Lloyd, Naismith and X Richards all deserving of elevation at the end of the year which would leave Robinson as a third year rookie. Upgrading four means that we need to clear a minimum of six positions on our senior list and more likely eight given we like to do some trading. There will be some retirements LRT already and ROK and maybe Shaw and we could see one or two leave for greener pastures (maybe Malceski and Walsh back to ireland) but if I was Lockyer, Dick or Marsh I would be pulling out all stops to show that I am still worth a place on the swans list.

Can't see more than one of Lockyer, Dick or Harry being on the list next year. If I could choose which one to keep it would be Harry, but with a view to being a tall half-back flanker rather than as an onballer.

I would probably encourage Robinson to seek opportunities elsewhere. He's a good player and might be AFL standard. He won't get a chance to find out at the Swans.

[Plugger1300]

Benny definitely rested. horse isn't going to say so on the team selection video.
Shaw maybe a bit more of a query.

Would prefer to see Hewett/Jones or Marsh before Towers again.
Biggs is getting one last crack to secure a spot for 2015 (or he is just a September specialist)

[R-1]

Upgrading four means that we need to clear a minimum of six positions on our senior list and more likely eight given we like to do some trading.

I think the rules have changed so there's more flexibility in how clubs allocate spots between rookie and senior lists. Think we went into this year width 38 senior but can go to 40 by having less rookies.

[Reggi]

Liz would wait until after the trade period. We will have at least one surprise. Maybe two

[wolftone57]

Biggs elevation to the senior list is only for this year as a long term injury replacement for Aliir, likewise naismith for Derickx. It does not guarantee them a place for next year. Interesting that our three emergencies tomorrow are all 2013 draftees while the 2012 draftees, Membrey, Marsh and Dick and 2011 draftee Lockyer are all in the two's. We have five second and third year rookies on our list and at least four of them must be upgraded or let go at the end of the year unless the AFL changes the rules again. I would see Biggs, Lloyd, Naismith and X Richards all deserving of elevation at the end of the year which would leave Robinson as a third year rookie. Upgrading four means that we need to clear a minimum of six positions on our senior list and more likely eight given we like to do some trading. There will be some retirements LRT already and ROK and maybe Shaw and we could see one or two leave for greener pastures (maybe Malceski and Walsh back to ireland) but if I was Lockyer, Dick or Marsh I would be pulling out all stops to show that I am still worth a place on the swans list.

You can find something in not picking Membrey as an emergency if you like but I wouldn't. I think the coaches just want him to get as much game time as possible in the Twos. He played very well in his first game. Lockyer, Dick & Marsh are gone I think. I think Liz is right about Robbo, more's the pity, he is a good young player with a big kick on him. Mal might decide to go in search of a nest egg to retire on.

Shaw, LRT & ROK will probably call it quits and I wouldn't be surprised to see Rhyce as an assistant coach somewhere next season, probably with the Swannies. We may be losing Stewie Dew to Melbourne as he prepares to take over from Roos. Melbourne players had better not think he is compromising because he ain't, it's either his way or the highway.

I think Biggs will be upgraded as they have been grooming him for Mal's place anyway. Richards & Naismith were Rookie Drafted in 2013 not 2012 and can both be 3 year rookies if needed. Same with Lloydy but I am sure he will be elevated.

We may have up to six places on the list, maybe seven if Mal leaves. Biggs & Lloyd will be upgraded & maybe Naismith & Xav Richards. But I think Robbo would be better off searching for greener pastures. He is a waste in our seconds and he will spend all his time there because we have too many mids ahead of him and with Heeney and maybe Hiscox coming in he will be even further back.

[wolftone57]

Anyway this is the changes thread. Biggs & Towers will be keen to have good games this week. Biggsy is becoming the end of year specialist and if Rhyce's ankle doesn't come up may find himself in the mix for September. I reckon they are resting Benny so his body can heal from all the bruises he gets throwing himself into the packs like a madman. Shaw's ankle has been bothering him ever since it happened and I was surprised he didn't get rested to take care of it the game after.

I look forward to seeing Biggsy play on Sneiderman.

[Flying South]

Can't see more than one of Lockyer, Dick or Harry being on the list next year. If I could choose which one to keep it would be Harry, but with a view to being a tall half-back flanker rather than as an onballer.

I would probably encourage Robinson to seek opportunities elsewhere. He's a good player and might be AFL standard. He won't get a chance to find out at the Swans.

It would be a shame if Robbo didn't get a crack. I rated him and Lloyd on a level par when they were playing together. And we know Lloyd has got what it takes. He may need to go to another club to get a shot.