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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    culture

    I feel sorry for or paul roos at the moment. A few weeks ago he said melbourne were still scared by tanking. This really meant some in melbourne were talking about doing it again. Low and behold they lose to GWS and ask for a priority pick.

    You can understand why he sees them as "them" and not "us". They may be so broken that even he cant fix them.

    Must wish hed stayed in sydney.
  • Ampersand
    On the Rookie List
    • Apr 2014
    • 694

    #2
    The problem for a lot of lower placed clubs is that they are focused on getting young players through the draft who are poached away by established clubs as soon as they reach maturity and also offering big payouts to older players in their twilight years, which is short term thinking. What they need to do is trade away some picks and get half a dozen decent players in the 23-26 year range and lock them into career long contracts, then build a club around this core group.

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    • chalbilto
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2007
      • 1139

      #3
      Is it my imagination but I was watching Roos on 360 on Monday night and I noticed that his hair is getting noticeably greyer.

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      • grarmy
        Warming the Bench
        • Aug 2010
        • 406

        #4
        Completely agree.
        "Play like you can’t lose."

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #5
          Originally posted by Ampersand
          The problem for a lot of lower placed clubs is that they are focused on getting young players through the draft who are poached away by established clubs as soon as they reach maturity and also offering big payouts to older players in their twilight years, which is short term thinking. What they need to do is trade away some picks and get half a dozen decent players in the 23-26 year range and lock them into career long contracts, then build a club around this core group.
          Exactly. Melbourne actually need a few list-cloggers. People they pluck from minor leagues to provide depth and competition for spots. The Laidlers of the world.

          Ironically, this is what Richmond did about 3 years ago. They went after a heap of journeymen in that age group just to boost the development of their kids. Most have now left, but they instilled a greater desire to actually win.

          To be honest, surely some of these @@@@ kicker melbourne sides must come to the realisation that "youth" is not the road to a premiership. Having the youngest list means nothing.

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          • Meg
            Go Swannies!
            Site Admin
            • Aug 2011
            • 4828

            #6
            I don't feel sorry for Roos if, as reported, he's getting $1.6 million pa. He is being extremely well paid to fix the problem.

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            • Conor_Dillon
              On the Rookie List
              • Jun 2013
              • 1224

              #7
              Originally posted by Meg
              I don't feel sorry for Roos if, as reported, he's getting $1.6 million pa. He is being extremely well paid to fix the problem.
              Spot on...I still think he's doing it for the money...not because his heart is in it.
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              • southsideswan
                Warming the Bench
                • Oct 2012
                • 237

                #8
                This is a bit off the topic but the saddest thing for me is to see part of the Dees game, see them walk off crest fallen and then to come to the realisation that as a whole those players are receiving the same pay pack as our team. Now that is sad.

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                • Dosser
                  Just wild about Harry
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 1833

                  #9
                  Originally posted by barry
                  Exactly. Melbourne actually need a few list-cloggers. People they pluck from minor leagues to provide depth and competition for spots. The Laidlers of the world.

                  Ironically, this is what Richmond did about 3 years ago. They went after a heap of journeymen in that age group just to boost the development of their kids. Most have now left, but they instilled a greater desire to actually win.

                  To be honest, surely some of these @@@@ kicker melbourne sides must come to the realisation that "youth" is not the road to a premiership. Having the youngest list means nothing.
                  I agree. The news that they have applied for a priority pick has annoyed me. How many top 10 picks to they need (and subsequently burn) before they understand that a good side is not built on top 10 picks alone? Look at the Swans. We have 3 x Top 10 picks on our list, and one of those came to us via free agency. The media and their supporters seem to think that another couple of top 10 picks will fix their problem - we all know the definition of insanity...

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                  • dimelb
                    pr. dim-melb; m not f
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 6889

                    #10
                    Originally posted by barry
                    Exactly. Melbourne actually need a few list-cloggers. People they pluck from minor leagues to provide depth and competition for spots. The Laidlers of the world.

                    Ironically, this is what Richmond did about 3 years ago. They went after a heap of journeymen in that age group just to boost the development of their kids. Most have now left, but they instilled a greater desire to actually win.

                    To be honest, surely some of these @@@@ kicker melbourne sides must come to the realisation that "youth" is not the road to a premiership. Having the youngest list means nothing.
                    Paul Roos agrees with you.

                    Melbourne coach Paul Roos says Demons open to trading draft pick two and priority pick

                    And Emma Quayle's article is worth a look too. As she points out, Melbourne will likely get pick 2 in the draft, and possibly pick 3 if Frawley goes. Her view is they have a good enough core to enable more success.

                    Why Melbourne shouldn't get a priority pick
                    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                    • Hotpotato
                      Senior Player
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 2261

                      #11
                      Roosy reckons he no longer has any emotional attachment to The Swans, but it's taking longer than expected to conjure up an emotional attachment to the D's.

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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        #12
                        General footy chat is the graveyard for threads.

                        Mods take note.

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                        • ScottH
                          It's Goodes to cheer!!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 23665

                          #13
                          Its where non Swans related AFL chat lives.

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                          • RogueSwan
                            McVeigh for Brownlow
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 4602

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dosser
                            I agree. The news that they have applied for a priority pick has annoyed me. How many top 10 picks to they need (and subsequently burn) before they understand that a good side is not built on top 10 picks alone? .....
                            Agreed 100%, I could not believe they had the audacity to ask for it. It just seems rude.
                            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                            • ShockOfHair
                              One Man Out
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 3668

                              #15
                              This is hilarious and sad - a catalogue of Melbourne failure since 2007:

                              Every Day Is Like Sunday: LOLMFC - The #fistedforever files

                              Fan spends time and money buying and framing 50?s premiership WEG posters signed by Ron Barassi for the purposes of raffling only to see one of them end up in an administrators house

                              Interesting one:
                              Neville Jetta?s mum recommends Lewis to recruiters and is roundly ignored

                              I knew their incompetent was incompetent but I didn't realise how shonky it was as well. I think when Roos refers to the tanking problem it's code for a lot of other shenanigans.
                              The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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