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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5835

    #61
    Originally posted by ShockOfHair
    Pyke and Franklin definite ins, the rest are maybes.

    A bit different than last week's message, when Kennedy and McGlynn were supposedly not being put at risk.


    Longmire said Lance Franklin (soreness) and Mike Pyke (illness), who have both missed just one match, would almost certainly come back into the side, with Josh Kennedy (hamstring), Ben McGlynn (calf) and Craig Bird (knee) also strong chances of returning this week.

    Five in line for finals - sydneyswans.com.au
    He didn't say that after the match on Saturday. He said Birdie was not ready aas he was still experiencing problems from the posterior cruciate. So the Ducks & Drakes start. Birdie has been no chance up until now. He is yet to train whereas the others have basically been rested other than Benny and he is up & about. Franklin, Kennedy, Pykie & Benny are a good chance but I would put much store in Birdie getting up after last weeks medical report. Doubtful last week generally means he is at least two weeks away. He might be ready for the Prelim if we win this or next week if we lose. The selectors will have to weigh up if they take a risk on him.

    I have no idea who will play this week. We might go with Laids. Might not. It will be selections to match up on the opposition very much in the mids & backs. What sort of speed do they have in the mids? Hill & Fyfe are basically their fast runners. In & Under they have Mundy & Barlow who are both bulls. Crowley their tagger. Daniel Pearce provides run off HB & Harry should get that job unless Horse decides to play Kizza in the forward line like earlier this year.

    By the way Freo players look like they have been hit with the ugly stick. But then again you don't have to be pretty to win a premiership. Ask Brian Taylor, Lethal, Mick Martyn, Juddy etc.
    Last edited by wolftone57; 1 September 2014, 08:46 PM.

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    • DK_
      On the Rookie List
      • Jun 2013
      • 454

      #62
      Originally posted by mcs
      What odds do you want DK? I'll let you lay a lazy $100 on it (with the assumption that injury is not the reason Tippett is left out).
      See my previous comment. And since when has Horse made strategic changes without coming up with a lame injury excuse first?

      Assuming it's wet, and noting the crap ANZ pitch, what change do you predict? Do we keep all the talls? Does Horse drop Buddy, Goodes, or Pyke? Who comes in instead? I don't think BJack is knocking. My only other idea is Rohan moves forward and Laidler or Zac come in down back.

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      • giant
        Veterans List
        • Mar 2005
        • 4731

        #63
        Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
        Just read Michael Johnson has been ruled out. That's a win for us
        Big win - surprised to hear people say he was a chance as he looked very lame on Saturday. Leaves them with very few options down back really I would think. Except have three behind the play all day, which they'll do anyway.

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        • RogueSwan
          McVeigh for Brownlow
          • Apr 2003
          • 4602

          #64
          Originally posted by wolftone57
          ...You forgot the three clanger kicks that turned the ball over when he kicked under pressure. One more goal. It was a low scoring game they all count in those.
          Why isn't a missed shot at goal called a clanger? It has missed the target, given the opposition a free kick and cost the team five points. (Not asking you in particular Wolfy)
          Also, if the kicks were under pressure, surely that is a team problem, not the kickers.
          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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          • Flying South
            Regular in the Side
            • Sep 2013
            • 585

            #65
            Originally posted by Ampersand
            This may be an unpopular opinion but I feel like our back six has looked a little shaky since Laidler went out. He was pretty good at reading the play defensively and providing an extra outlet by hand or foot out of the back half.

            As much as Rohan has improved I think he sometimes lacks the instinct to head where he is needed. Perhaps he should take over Shaw's half back role and then Laidler can come back in.
            I agree Amp. We need to be very wary of Freo attack. They kicked 17 goals against Hawthorn recently. I feel much more confident with Laidler in defence. Gives us a solid defensive four.

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            • cherub
              Warming the Bench
              • May 2010
              • 239

              #66
              Actually, Matt de Boer and Nathan Fyfe are pretty gorgeous. I reckon Nat Fyfe and Lance Franklin are the two most beautifully athletic players to watch in the AFL. Our guys are beautiful because the are OUR guys.

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              • ernie koala
                Senior Player
                • May 2007
                • 3251

                #67
                Originally posted by wolftone57
                But then again you don't have to be pretty to win a premiership. Ask Brian Taylor, Lethal, Mick Martyn, Juddy etc.
                BT....Win a premiership......Thankfully that never happened. If it had, he would of worked it into his commentary every single week.
                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                • Danzar
                  I'm doing ok right now, thanks
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 2027

                  #68
                  I think were were building to this structure before injuries came into play at different stages during our streak:

                  B: Rampe, Richards, Shaw
                  HB: Malceski, Grundy, Rohan
                  C: Jetta, Kennedy, Hanneberry
                  HF: McGlynn, Franklin, Goodes
                  F: Reid, Tippett, Parker
                  Fol: Pyke, Jack, McVeigh
                  I/C: Cunningham, Laidler, Smith
                  Sub: Mitchell

                  This means:
                  In: Laidler, Kennedy, McGlynn, Franklin, Pyke
                  Out: Naismith, Towers, Biggs, Jones, Lloyd

                  Not sure why there isn't much support for Laidler. He adds stability to our backline and gives us a few more options to play utilities further up from half back. Finals are unpredictable.
                  Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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                  • Auntie.Gerald
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6474

                    #69
                    Laidler hasnt provided more effective football then Rohan has the last few weeks........Laidler is solid but we have so many players who can now rotate thru the back 6 and Laidler is in my opinion behind the following 8 players..........Rampe, Ted, Shaw, Mal, Macca, Reg, Rohan and Reid

                    Macca needs to spend half his time in the backline for short passing exits to be effective from our 50m defensive arc in a pressure game against a team like Freeo....... equally Mal needs to be up on the wing almost 50% of the game

                    B: Rampe, Richards, Shaw
                    HB: Malceski, Grundy, Smith
                    C: Jetts, Kennedy, Hannes
                    HF: McGlynn, Franklin, Jack
                    F: Goodes, Tippett, Harry
                    Fol: Pyke, Parker, McVeigh

                    I/C: Lloyd, Rohan, Reid
                    Sub: Mitchell


                    In: Kennedy, McGlynn, Franklin, Pyke
                    Out: Naismith, Towers, Biggs, Jones

                    Injured: Bird
                    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      #70
                      Yes Auntie, this is the side. Can't leave Lloyd out. Frankly, I think it's the most talented side we've ever had.

                      One thing I love seeing is how well Jake Lloyd has Harry's pace worked out, so much so that he hits him at full pace nearly every time. Those 2 kids have brought so much skill to the side. And they are incredibly smart footballers for 20 year olds.

                      Mitchell's inside work is really strong and his handballing is sublime. Once he works out how to kick the ball to advantage, he's going to really damaging, because he can kick long. Lloyd to his credit already has this well worked out and is only second to Macca at hitting the man on the lead. He's reminded of McVeigh from the start and just continues to confirm my early impressions.

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                      • CureTheSane
                        Carpe Noctem
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 5032

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald

                        B: Rampe, Richards, Shaw
                        HB: Malceski, Grundy, Smith
                        C: Jetts, Kennedy, Hannes
                        HF: McGlynn, Franklin, Jack
                        F: Goodes, Tippett, Harry
                        Fol: Pyke, Parker, McVeigh

                        I/C: Lloyd, Rohan, Reid
                        Sub: Mitchell
                        Would love to see that team.

                        If Bird comes in, is it for Lloyd or Mitchell?
                        The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                        • Bloody Hell
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3085

                          #72
                          Mitchell will stay. Shaw will stay. Better than last week and the week before. Will be right on cue by next week.
                          The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                          • Auntie.Gerald
                            Veterans List
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6474

                            #73
                            Sydney weather - local weather forecast

                            looks like we will be playing in he wet or slippery conditions again on the wknd !

                            i am truly hoping we are learning from our wet weather games.........it appears that we are still being picked off on our forward entries in the wet slippery games

                            what i have noticed was when Mal or Shaw came flying out of the backs and kicked it too our 1 attacker on 3 defenders upfront in the first half we really struggled and Richmond just kept jamming the ball back in our 50m defensive arc........for me opposition teams know we love to find a big target upfront and that means they know it the wet or slippery conditions that it is unlikely Shaw or Mal will take a bounce on their rebound plays and therefore they will simply kick it long to an unfair 1 on 2 or 1 on 3............we truly need to find that extra hand pass in the wet before kicking !

                            Freeo are fantastic at playing the same game plan as Richmond did on the wknd but they have many more forwards to capitalise on their forward pressure

                            I did like how we adjusted with small to med forwards in the last parts of the 2nd qtr and 3rd qtr though and hence why Rohan is so important to be in the team with his flexibility to play upfront or back in parts of the game to get a mis match and re adjust the opposition game plan
                            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                            • Ampersand
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 694

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Flying South
                              I agree Amp. We need to be very wary of Freo attack. They kicked 17 goals against Hawthorn recently. I feel much more confident with Laidler in defence. Gives us a solid defensive four.
                              I guess we'll have to be the voices in the wilderness on this one, FS.

                              I still maintain that the beautifully underrated defensive play of three or four relieving handballs back to the goal line has been missing/slipshod since Laidler went out and was particularly exposed during the first 10 minutes of the Richmond game.

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                              • ScottH
                                It's Goodes to cheer!!
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 23665

                                #75
                                My Parents sat next to Mike Pyke on Saturday and he spent half the game burying his head in his hands at all the mistakes we made.
                                I'm sure he'll be keen to get out there and take on the big Spider.

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