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  • stellation
    scott names the planets
    • Sep 2003
    • 9720

    Apparently we've basically sold no tickets at all to the PF so far. People don't want to go to Homebush.

    I do like the swimming pool there, though. I find swimming laps there exciting, sometimes a different line to chase is as good as a holiday.
    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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    • Matt80
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Sep 2013
      • 1802

      Originally posted by mcs
      I would strongly argue its really a combination of improved performance and the move to the Adelaide Oval. The other factor you've listed is really just an 'icing' on the cake - but we know of your great endearment for Port's President, so we won't go there

      AAMI stadium was a dump - in the middle of nowhere, with little around, hard to get to, and really not a particularly great place to watch football. The new Adelaide Oval is absolutely fantastic - right in the city, great facilities and a high quality match day experience through a combination of the old (the old scoreboard and the hill) and the new (Some fantastic new stands which give a fantastic viewing experience for AFL).

      I went to AAMI for the port game last year, and to the Adelaide Oval for the Crows game this year. Different teams I know, but the experience couldn't be more different.

      I think there is some quite strong validity to what Big Cat has said about inner city venues - although I don't think it is the be all and end all either. Many big stadiums overseas are often located a long way from both the traditional base of their tenant clubs and also the centre of the city, but still have a similar great experience (no doubt helped by the different nature of soccer/NFL/various other sports fans compared to AFL).
      The reason that outer city grounds don't work is because as a society we have not embraced the amazing American Football tradition of Tailgating.

      The NFL stadiums are built in outer suburbs and have huge outdoor car parks. People park their cars usually many hours before the game and then set up barbecues in the car park. They then have parties in the car park where friends and sometimes random people bring their own meat and beer and use an available barbecue. People talk, party and have a great time.

      It could be as simple at Matt80 posting a message on Red and White saying he has a barbecue set up in a certain part of the car park and invites Red and White people to join him. MCS, Meg, Mel, Stellation Liz, Barry, DamY, Ugg, Erica, Goodes78, Ludwig ScottH and Jewels then come to Matt80s barbecue with their Meat and Beer. The party then gets started hours before the first bounce.

      It would never be aloud in Australia because some bureaucratic fool would determine that their is a food poisoning risk and shut the process down.

      I think the outer suburban stadiums would work if Tailgating was encouraged and embraced.

      God Bless America!

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        Originally posted by Matt80
        God Bless America!
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        • Jewels
          On the Rookie List
          • Oct 2006
          • 3258

          Originally posted by Matt80
          The reason that outer city grounds don't work is because as a society we have not embraced the amazing American Football tradition of Tailgating.

          The NFL stadiums are built in outer suburbs and have huge outdoor car parks. People park their cars usually many hours before the game and then set up barbecues in the car park. They then have parties in the car park where friends and sometimes random people bring their own meat and beer and use an available barbecue. People talk, party and have a great time.

          It could be as simple at Matt80 posting a message on Red and White saying he has a barbecue set up in a certain part of the car park and invites Red and White people to join him. MCS, Meg, Mel, Stellation Liz, Barry, DamY, Ugg, Erica, Goodes78, Ludwig ScottH and Jewels then come to Matt80s barbecue with their Meat and Beer. The party then gets started hours before the first bounce.

          It would never be aloud in Australia because some bureaucratic fool would determine that their is a food poisoning risk and shut the process down.

          I think the outer suburban stadiums would work if Tailgating was encouraged and embraced.

          God Bless America!
          Wardy conducts a lovely soiree along those lines in the MCG car park before every Swans grand final

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          • ScottH
            It's Goodes to cheer!!
            • Sep 2003
            • 23665

            Originally posted by Jewels
            Wardy conducts a lovely soiree along those lines in the MCG car park before every Swans grand final
            Unfortunately there will be no Grange and no Wardy this year.

            But we really need to do an RWO meetup.
            That would be nice.

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            • mcs
              Travelling Swannie!!
              • Jul 2007
              • 8166

              Originally posted by Matt80
              The reason that outer city grounds don't work is because as a society we have not embraced the amazing American Football tradition of Tailgating.

              The NFL stadiums are built in outer suburbs and have huge outdoor car parks. People park their cars usually many hours before the game and then set up barbecues in the car park. They then have parties in the car park where friends and sometimes random people bring their own meat and beer and use an available barbecue. People talk, party and have a great time.

              It could be as simple at Matt80 posting a message on Red and White saying he has a barbecue set up in a certain part of the car park and invites Red and White people to join him. MCS, Meg, Mel, Stellation Liz, Barry, DamY, Ugg, Erica, Goodes78, Ludwig ScottH and Jewels then come to Matt80s barbecue with their Meat and Beer. The party then gets started hours before the first bounce.

              It would never be aloud in Australia because some bureaucratic fool would determine that their is a food poisoning risk and shut the process down.

              I think the outer suburban stadiums would work if Tailgating was encouraged and embraced.

              God Bless America!
              Ill take your work on the amazingness of American tailgating

              I was more talking about football grounds in Europe for my examples, where that is most certainly not a usual practice of tailgating

              A R&W meet up somewhere in Melbourne on GF day, even just for a drink together before the game would be awesome though
              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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              • Matt80
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2013
                • 1802

                This is the tailgating set up I'm talking about. This is the New York Giants Tailgating party at the Meadowlands. The stadium is 50 minutes outside New York City.

                Imagine if ANZ embraced Tailgating. It has the space.

                It would be so much fun. Look at that food.

                Giants tailgate season begins - New York Post - YouTube

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                • Jewels
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3258

                  Can we get back on track please, the mods have been working overtime lately so lets save them the effort this time....

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    Originally posted by Jewels
                    Can we get back on track please, the mods have been working overtime lately so lets save them the effort this time....
                    How about a compromise?

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      Having been to many big sporting events at ANZ this year, I have to say the match day experience is pretty lame at AFL. Even after this great final win and a quick rendition of CHEER CHEER the ground announcer was quick to say ... " and that concludes the first final".

                      Luckily there is lots of parkland around for a kick to kick.

                      State of origin left it for dead. The build up. The half tine. The end.

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                      • Xie Shan
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2929

                        Originally posted by ScottH
                        But we really need to do an RWO meetup.
                        That would be nice.
                        We had one the night before the 2012 GF, I had dinner with a few RWOers (including Go Swannies and the great man Des himself!) at the Rising Sun in South Melbourne. I'll probably do something similar with my group anyway so a pub dinner or something would be ideal, allow people to go with their own groups but also mingle.

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                        • The Big Cat
                          On the veteran's list
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2356

                          Originally posted by barry

                          State of origin left it for dead. The build up. The half tine. The end.
                          `The before, the half time and the end are needed to make it worth going.
                          Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                          • Doctor
                            Bay 29
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 2757

                            Originally posted by barry
                            Having been to many big sporting events at ANZ this year, I have to say the match day experience is pretty lame at AFL. Even after this great final win and a quick rendition of CHEER CHEER the ground announcer was quick to say ... " and that concludes the first final".

                            Luckily there is lots of parkland around for a kick to kick.

                            State of origin left it for dead. The build up. The half tine. The end.
                            The whole aim of that place is to get you out as quickly as they can. The bars and food outlets are closed early in the 4th qtr and they want everyone out of there and on to buses or trains so they can turn the place into a wasteland again. The SCG is no different. Stadia in Europe keep their bars and food outlets open for an hour after the game, which helps significantly with staggering crowd management (that can be read two ways) and also helps the post-game atmosphere.
                            Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                            • Danzar
                              I'm doing ok right now, thanks
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 2027

                              Originally posted by stellation
                              Apparently we've basically sold no tickets at all to the PF so far. People don't want to go to Homebush.

                              I do like the swimming pool there, though. I find swimming laps there exciting, sometimes a different line to chase is as good as a holiday.
                              Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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                              • ScottH
                                It's Goodes to cheer!!
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 23665

                                Originally posted by Xie Shan
                                We had one the night before the 2012 GF, I had dinner with a few RWOers (including Go Swannies and the great man Des himself!) at the Rising Sun in South Melbourne. I'll probably do something similar with my group anyway so a pub dinner or something would be ideal, allow people to go with their own groups but also mingle.
                                I missed that one!!

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