AFL slaps trade ban on Swans

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  • chalbilto
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2007
    • 1139

    Originally posted by churry
    Here's the update.
    AFL statement - Trade restrictions update - sydneyswans.com.au

    "AFL General Counsel Andrew Dillon said the Swans had raised with the AFL that the upcoming Exchange Period and List Lodgment dates may present a number of potential eventualities including losing a player whose contract was beyond the average-wage mark and the club would not be able to adequately replace that player with the restrictions in place."

    "Mr Dillon said the club and the AFL had agreed that the Swans would be permitted to replace one player who leaves the club as either a free agent or as part of a trade, with a contract offer of up to $450,000 per year. If the club chooses to replace a departing player with this option, the Sydney Swans? transitional COLA amount of $600,000 for the 2016 season will be lowered by 9.8 per cent of the traded-out player?s contract, if that player was contracted for 2016."
    Does this mean that we are only permitted to replace only one player? What would happen if the club wanted to place 2 or 3 players?

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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      $450K is what we intend to offer a player we have our eyes on or what Jetta is on for 2016.

      Still very unhappy we are restricted in any way having done nothing wrong but this is better than $340K I suppose.

      So with the sub going and rotatrions down to 90, if we bring in Leuenberger will we play two rucks, Luey and Pike and leave Tippett at FF?

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8560

        Geez this is frustrating. Off to the courts I say, armed with this key sentence from the AFL's own statement today, "At all times, the Sydney Swans have complied fully with the AFL?s rules around the Total Player Payments (TPP) and the use of the COLA payment." Yet still there is no fair and justifiable reason forthcoming from the AFL for our trade ban! It's obvious to all but those who are plain stupid or ignored by those who stand to gain from our loss, that this is vengeful and unjust treatment. I would call it 'punishment' but you have to have done something wrong to require punishment. Stop being gutless Swans and take these cheating clowns to court! QC's are queuing up to help get the job done.......just do it! FFS, this corporate bullying has to stop, or the fast diminishing integrity of this league will be gone for good, and teams like us will be pushing @@@@ uphill forever more..............

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        • erica
          Happy and I know it
          • Jan 2008
          • 1247

          Dan Hannebery has tweeted about it: Dan Hannebery on Twitter: "@RalphyHeraldSun Shouldn't be any restrictions in the first place, no rules were broken...."
          All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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          • WauchopeAnalyst
            Regular in the Side
            • Sep 2008
            • 834

            Originally posted by stellation
            $450k seems kinds of cheap to me for Leuenberger.
            Massive overs! Another Giraffe. No pack marks, plays about 10 to 12 games a year. 108 games in 9 years with 27 goals. How the hell are the Swans talking to Leuenberger unless using it as a misdirect. ????

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Originally posted by dimelb
              Ludwig, like Meg I agree with all you say, but the remaining problem is that there is no acknowledgment of misapplied authority and thus no public recognition that the same, or a similar, misuse of authority may happen again. I still wish we had rolled out a suitable lawyer (acting pro bono, and they apparently did offer) as a hedge against future misuse of power.
              They have admitted that we did not break any rules. We've been punished 4 times over. Sometimes you have to acknowledge who has the power in these situations and take what you can get. I think we got what we want without the pleasure of dragging this through the courts. The settlement made that a moot exercise.

              Originally posted by stellation
              $450k seems kinds of cheap to me for Leuenberger.
              I wish you were my boos.

              Originally posted by troyjones2525
              I still feel its incredibly weak by the Swans! Yes we may not have the money but it effectively still puts us out of the running for anyone with high end talent, even if they wanted to come to us. It sounds as though we are only a week or 2 from Jetta announcing a desire to leave the club so looks like it'll be Jetta out and possibly Leunberger in. Doesn't fill me with much hope for 2016 with the gaping holes on our list being that of genuine speed and most notably skills!
              If we can't afford to pay a player's salary demands, then we really aren't in the running.
              I agree that Jetta would be a big loss in speed and skill, but there is no easy replacement for him around the league who is available. I don't think we have gaping holes in our list. We have plenty of speed, but agree that our skill level can use improvement. Jetta's not gone yet. Let's hope for the best.


              I think we can trade anyone out, even Tom Derickx, and would be able to recruit a player up to 450k. I doesn't sound like there's a link between the salary of the player going out and the one coming in.

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              • troyjones2525
                Swans Fanatic!
                • Mar 2008
                • 2908

                To be honest I'd probably rather us go after Zac Smith than Leunberger. 2 years younger and probably more upside.

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                • barry
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8499

                  The AFL are cheating scum

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                  • annew
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 2164

                    Originally posted by barry
                    The AFL are cheating scum
                    Agree

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                    • bennyfabulous
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 351

                      Tell em to shove the 600k cola & after goodesy & shaw retire & jetts leaves for WA, just get in Dangerfield and we will call it even!

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                      • Ajax
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 38

                        Originally posted by bennyfabulous
                        Tell em to shove the 600k cola & after goodesy & shaw retire & jetts leaves for WA, just get in Dangerfield and we will call it even!
                        Good call.

                        "The AFL's become quite bitchy, quite frankly," says Colless. "Where we find ourselves is, 'We're the Swans. We have no allies. We are part of no blocs. It's the Swans versus the rest'. Brisbane is basically insolvent. The other two clubs are probably costing the AFL and the clubs themselves $40 million a year. The only club that is remotely viable and successful is the Swans. I honestly despair. Why are others going out of their way to bring this club down when its achieved so much? Against the odds?"

                        Read more: 'I want your respect': Why Buddy Franklin belongs at the Sydney Swans


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                        • bloodsbigot
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 813

                          I'd prefer the swans take AFL to court.

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                          • stellation
                            scott names the planets
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 9721

                            Originally posted by WauchopeAnalyst
                            Massive overs! Another Giraffe. No pack marks, plays about 10 to 12 games a year. 108 games in 9 years with 27 goals. How the hell are the Swans talking to Leuenberger unless using it as a misdirect. ????
                            Originally posted by Ludwig
                            I wish you were my boos.
                            I dunno- ruckmen are expensive normally anyway- 6 years ago it cost us $300k bidding against ourselves to take a chance on Mummy. Sub rule going next year, even with reduced rotations, probably gets every big man that signs a deal this off season a bump in their contract? There's a few other clubs interested in him, too.

                            I'm not saying I particularly think it's fair value, more that the figure is probably a little low to lock it in as a done deal.
                            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                            • CureTheSane
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5032

                              Doubt the Swans would have bothered with this unless they knew that Jetta was gone at the end of the year.
                              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                              • moocher
                                Pushing for Selection
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 50

                                Originally posted by CureTheSane
                                Doubt the Swans would have bothered with this unless they knew that Jetta was gone at the end of the year.
                                Can someone expalin to me what we are able to 'trade or buy' in the event of Shaw and Goodes retiring and Jetta going west? That's alot of talent and experience lost! Am I right in thinking we can trade with Jetta for a player worth $450K but to replace the other 2 on the list we can only contract free agents to the value of $350K? It just seems incredibly unfair. I think the Swans have been very compliant in accepting this outcome

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