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  • Conor_Dillon
    On the Rookie List
    • Jun 2013
    • 1224

    Sydney Swans best 22, 2015 AFL Premiership Season

    Thought I'd have a crack at our best team for next year, haven't included AJ because he is unlikely to play in 2015,

    Here goes...

    B: Nick Smith, Ted Richards, Dane Rampe

    HB: Sam Reid, Heath Grundy, Jarrad McVeigh

    C: Lewis Jetta, Tom Mitchell, Dan Hannebery

    HF: Harry Cunningham, Lance Franklin, Kieren Jack

    FF: Ben McGlynn, Kurt Tippett, Adam Goodes

    F: Mike Pyke, Josh Kennedy, Luke Parker

    I/C: Craig Bird, Gary Rohan, Rhyce Shaw, Jake Lloyd (s)

    Emg: Jeremy Laidler, Zak Jones, George Hewett

    Brandon Jack
    Dean Towers
    Tom Derrickx
    Allir Allir
    Toby Nankervis
    Daniel Robinson
    Xavier Richards
    Isaac Heeney
    Jack Hiscox
    Abaina Davis
    Draft pick #37
    Harrison Marsh*
    Alex Johnson*

    note: * denotes currently uncontracted players

    Sam Naismith
    Lloyd Perris
    Rookie pick
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  • Jimitron5000
    Warming the Bench
    • Oct 2006
    • 455

    #2
    No injuries please! Outside the 22 we have eight players with senior experience including Alex Johnson. Four of the eight have under 10 games between them.

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    • Conor_Dillon
      On the Rookie List
      • Jun 2013
      • 1224

      #3
      Not much experience in our depth but plenty of exciting talent! The future is bright
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      • ernie koala
        Senior Player
        • May 2007
        • 3251

        #4
        Yep pretty good team, just a few notes....IMO..

        Jetta needs to win his spot back with a big pre season and some good early form.

        Goodes should be used as a sub every 2nd or 3rd week. That's assuming, unlike this year, he works hard when we don't have the ball.

        I agree that McGlynn should be moved back to the forward pocket. With occasional forays into the midfield when needed.

        Zak Jones, if he has a good preseason, should be given as much game time as possible in the early rounds, ahead of Shaw or Jetta, depending on their form.
        Last edited by ernie koala; 17 October 2014, 02:19 PM.
        Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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        • Conor_Dillon
          On the Rookie List
          • Jun 2013
          • 1224

          #5
          Yeh wouldn't mind Jones in the team as much as possible...brings that real mongrel and toughness that we lack at times.

          And think you're being a bit harsh on Jetta...horrible grand final but wasn't alone! He was in our top 2 or 3 players in the Prelim and I think his kicking is vital...particularly with Mal gone!
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          • Bloodthirsty
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2013
            • 607

            #6
            If you're putting McGlynn in the forward pocket, I just want to suggest something.....people can throw stuff at me all day, but I'm going to say this anyway despite the backlash...... Swan would be a better team with Derickx in place of Goodes. If McGlynn is the crumbing forward, it is better to have two ruckmen who can both play forward and leave Tippett at FF -no ruck work for him. Need two ruckmen, especially one bullocking crazy MF like Derickx.

            In my opinion, the team would be stronger with this set up.
            "Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the Swans win pretty."

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            • Mountain Man
              Regular in the Side
              • Feb 2008
              • 909

              #7
              I would like to see Shaw out and Jetta and Rohan both playing on wings with the brief to drop back when the ball is in the opposition hands, and then run like they can when we win the ball back. Both can then run/deliver very quickly to the forward set up.

              I agree with McVeigh back in a permanent role, and his distribution to those 2 'wingmen' is the replacement tactic for Malceski.

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              • ernie koala
                Senior Player
                • May 2007
                • 3251

                #8
                Originally posted by Bloodthirsty
                If you're putting McGlynn in the forward pocket, I just want to suggest something.....people can throw stuff at me all day, but I'm going to say this anyway despite the backlash...... Swan would be a better team with Derickx in place of Goodes. If McGlynn is the crumbing forward, it is better to have two ruckmen who can both play forward and leave Tippett at FF -no ruck work for him. Need two ruckmen, especially one bullocking crazy MF like Derickx.

                In my opinion, the team would be stronger with this set up.
                Yep, when I think about it, I agree with you.

                If Derrickx can get a bit more involved around the ground, it would make it a no brainer...IMO.
                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                • Flying South
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 585

                  #9
                  Never thought I would say this at start of season, but Derickx gets my vote for ruckman. And I can't find a spot for Shaw in my starting team. He is holding up development and is now a depth player IMO. Rampe and McVeigh are my rebounding midfielders (HB) and Jack & Jetta are my attacking midfielder's (HF). They provide defensive pressure and usually good kicks. Mitchell comes into to help Kennedy out in the trenches and allows Parker to play a more roaming midfield role. I would also like to see Jones get some more game time. Cunningham is my small forward and I would like to see Rohan play more in the forward half as well. He is a good mark, kick for goal and applies defensive pressure with his speed. I didn't like him in defence. It would be nice to see Hewett, Heeney, Nankervis and XR gets some senior game time through rotations. I am still hoping Naismith gets upgraded to get some experience into him as well.

                  FB. Smith Richards Reid
                  HB. Rampe Grundy McVeigh
                  CTR. Hannebery Parker McGlynn
                  FOL. Derickx Kennedy Mitchell
                  HF. Jack Franklin Jetta
                  FF. Goodes Tippett Cunningham
                  INT. Lloyd, Bird, Rohan, Jones
                  EMG. Pyke, Hewett, Heeney, XR, Nankervis

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                  • Cardinal
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 932

                    #10
                    If Derickx and McGlynn are both having a crack at a grand final next year it will be a great story. Now if we pick up someone who's been delisted as well....

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                    • troyjones2525
                      Swans Fanatic!
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 2908

                      #11
                      Seriously, I don't understand all the love now for Derickx? Yes he tried hard and did a job for us when we were struggling for a ruckman through the early/middle part of the year but seriously! Many of his performances were not close to AFL standard! He mostly drops marks although he managed to hold onto one or two beauties! But dropped many sitters. His kicking is below average (yes Pyke isn't much better but still...) and rarely wins the ball around the ground and creates an option. He is just depth which is what he was recruited for and I'd be staggered and extremely disappointed if Nankervis or Naismith doesn't move past him for senior games this year!

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                      • Bloodthirsty
                        On the Rookie List
                        • May 2013
                        • 607

                        #12
                        Originally posted by troyjones2525
                        Seriously, I don't understand all the love now for Derickx? Yes he tried hard and did a job for us when we were struggling for a ruckman through the early/middle part of the year but seriously! Many of his performances were not close to AFL standard! He mostly drops marks although he managed to hold onto one or two beauties! But dropped many sitters. His kicking is below average (yes Pyke isn't much better but still...) and rarely wins the ball around the ground and creates an option. He is just depth which is what he was recruited for and I'd be staggered and extremely disappointed if Nankervis or Naismith doesn't move past him for senior games this year!
                        What I am picking up on with many comments is that everyone seems to be talking about options that WILL NOT HELP THE SWANS WIN A FLAG NEXT YEAR. Yes, Naismith, yes Heeney, yes X Richards - but will 'game time' result in a premiership in 2015? No it won't. I don't understand the thinking when the premiership window is open now (and just barely). Everyone is talking about options that won't come to fruition until Buddy is into his 30s and Tippett has retired. Geez. That's why the VFL decision was @@@@@@ and it will probably have the effect they desired.

                        Heeney and Jones may help win a flag next year but as far as KPD we are @@@@@@.
                        "Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the Swans win pretty."

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8168

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Flying South
                          Never thought I would say this at start of season, but Derickx gets my vote for ruckman. And I can't find a spot for Shaw in my starting team. He is holding up development and is now a depth player IMO. Rampe and McVeigh are my rebounding midfielders (HB) and Jack & Jetta are my attacking midfielder's (HF). They provide defensive pressure and usually good kicks. Mitchell comes into to help Kennedy out in the trenches and allows Parker to play a more roaming midfield role. I would also like to see Jones get some more game time. Cunningham is my small forward and I would like to see Rohan play more in the forward half as well. He is a good mark, kick for goal and applies defensive pressure with his speed. I didn't like him in defence. It would be nice to see Hewett, Heeney, Nankervis and XR gets some senior game time through rotations. I am still hoping Naismith gets upgraded to get some experience into him as well.

                          FB. Smith Richards Reid
                          HB. Rampe Grundy McVeigh
                          CTR. Hannebery Parker McGlynn
                          FOL. Derickx Kennedy Mitchell
                          HF. Jack Franklin Jetta
                          FF. Goodes Tippett Cunningham
                          INT. Lloyd, Bird, Rohan, Jones
                          EMG. Pyke, Hewett, Heeney, XR, Nankervis
                          Derickx in front of Pyke - you've got to be kidding me. Derickx with Pyke could work I think, but there is no way in hell that Derickx should be seen in front of Pyke (unless he really goes downhill next year). He was one of the very few to get close to breaking even on Grand Final day, and I'd argue he was probably in the top 3 or 4 in the Finals voting this year, he really did have a very good finals series.

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                          Originally posted by troyjones2525
                          Seriously, I don't understand all the love now for Derickx? Yes he tried hard and did a job for us when we were struggling for a ruckman through the early/middle part of the year but seriously! Many of his performances were not close to AFL standard! He mostly drops marks although he managed to hold onto one or two beauties! But dropped many sitters. His kicking is below average (yes Pyke isn't much better but still...) and rarely wins the ball around the ground and creates an option. He is just depth which is what he was recruited for and I'd be staggered and extremely disappointed if Nankervis or Naismith doesn't move past him for senior games this year!
                          +1 to this. If he can improve his marking and disposal over the summer he might be a shot at pushing Pyke, but he really is a back up option. If we get to a point where he is the 1st choice ruckman for the team on merit, I think we will be in trouble to say the least.

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                          Originally posted by Bloodthirsty
                          What I am picking up on with many comments is that everyone seems to be talking about options that WILL NOT HELP THE SWANS WIN A FLAG NEXT YEAR. Yes, Naismith, yes Heeney, yes X Richards - but will 'game time' result in a premiership in 2015? No it won't. I don't understand the thinking when the premiership window is open now (and just barely). Everyone is talking about options that won't come to fruition until Buddy is into his 30s and Tippett has retired. Geez. That's why the VFL decision was @@@@@@ and it will probably have the effect they desired.

                          Heeney and Jones may help win a flag next year but as far as KPD we are @@@@@@.
                          I think Jones does have all the ingredients to slot in and improve the team. As for Heeney- its tough to predict whether he will push for senior footy next year. I'd argue he probably might get a game or two, but is unlikely to burst onto the scene. Hopefully I'm wrong though.

                          Our KPD is terrible - any injuries in there and we are stuffed good and proper.
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • ernie koala
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2007
                            • 3251

                            #14
                            My team...

                            FB : Rampe ; Richards ; Smith
                            HB : Reid ; Grundy ; McVeigh
                            C : Hannebery ; Kennedy ; Cunningham
                            HF : Rohan ; Franklin ; Jack
                            FF : McGlynn ; Tippett ; Mitchell
                            FOL : Pyke ; Parker ; Bird
                            INTER : Derrickx ; Jetta ; Jones
                            SUB : Goodes
                            EMG : Laidler, Lloyd, Heeney
                            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16778

                              #15
                              While I understand that we can't necessarily rely on any of the younger players to come in and significantly improve the team, there is every likelihood that one or two will. Many premiership sides (and those who challenge fiercely) have at a couple of previously fringe players who have a break out season and make a real difference. Brad Hill last year for the Hawks (as a second year player, I think) and Langford this year (as a third year player) were significant reasons for their premiership. In 2012 we saw Jetta produce a year far beyond what his previous games had indicated he might be capable of, and Alex Johnson was good all year and got better as the year went on. And even this year, Cunningham and Lloyd were two who delivered more than we had a right to expect. Remember that, despite the end result, we did reach the Grand Final!

                              Sure, if we are forced to rely on a lot of younger players at the same time, we may struggle. But I see no reason why one or two of Jones, Heeney, Mitchell, Towers, Jack or Hewitt mightn't become valuable contributors for us in 2015. The current NEAFL set-up looks to be very positive for enabling the club to develop players to play senior football. The higher quality of the top-ups must be a factor, as it means the listed players can play disciplined team footy, rather than getting into bad habits trying to do things outside team structures to cover for sub-standard top-ups. And the fact we now play around half the games against other AFL reserves sides, rather than multiple games against Tuggeranong and the like, is also a huge plus. Add in a very capable development coach in Crouch and the development set up looks rather good.

                              Stay positive people!!!!

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