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  • S.S. Bleeder
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2014
    • 2165

    #76
    Originally posted by stevoswan
    That's why he and Mummy worked so well. Geez we miss Mummy. I'll go a far as to say we would have won more games and the GF this year if he was still with us(and AJ!). The only negative of the Buddy deal. Lamb would have been chopped anyway.....you see what I did there.
    Yep. You're 100% correct. Mummy's absence and the absence of a true ruckman really hit us last year. Our problem is that we have a couple of years before Naismith develops and we need to cope until then. It's similar to our KPD problem.

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6480

      #77
      im not too worried

      ive seen top level players in cricket get a 200 score one game then get a duck the next game

      we were on the pace all season, in the finals........ then had a shocka in the GF !

      We wont see to many changes but I really want Tom Mitchell back in the team and if that means Macca plays in the back line that is fine with me

      I also want Rohan in the back line rotation
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • S.S. Bleeder
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2014
        • 2165

        #78
        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
        im not too worried

        ive seen top level players in cricket get a 200 score one game then get a duck the next game

        we were on the pace all season, in the finals........ then had a shocka in the GF !

        We wont see to many changes but I really want Tom Mitchell back in the team and if that means Macca plays in the back line that is fnine with me

        I also want Rohan in the back line rotation
        That's true for individuals, but you expect more consistent results (or less volatile results) from a team. I think the one player we missed in the GF was Mitchell. We needed someone who was capable of clearances.

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        • Matt80
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Sep 2013
          • 1802

          #79
          Originally posted by 09183305
          Easier for Mitchell to keep Heeney off his tail without Matt80 on his back.
          I hate to dampen my own influence in the World, but I don't think Tom Mitchell gives a crap about what Matt80 posts.

          Does anyone know if Swans players read Red and White Online or post themselves with an alias?

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          • dimelb
            pr. dim-melb; m not f
            • Jun 2003
            • 6889

            #80
            I don't know about current players but I heard from a reliable source that one ex-player thinks a lot of the opinions are rubbish. I have no idea who he has been reading!
            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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            • Melbourne_Blood
              Senior Player
              • May 2010
              • 3312

              #81
              Originally posted by dimelb
              I don't know about current players but I heard from a reliable source that one ex-player thinks a lot of the opinions are rubbish. I have no idea who he has been reading!
              That's probably a fair assessment!

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              • wolftone57
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2008
                • 5857

                #82
                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                im not too worried

                ive seen top level players in cricket get a 200 score one game then get a duck the next game

                we were on the pace all season, in the finals........ then had a shocka in the GF !

                We wont see to many changes but I really want Tom Mitchell back in the team and if that means Macca plays in the back line that is fine with me

                I also want Rohan in the back line rotation
                I totally agree about Rohan & Mitchell. But I think we are going to have to find mongrel to win a premiership again. The AFL seem to be willing to allow old fashioned GF biffo, head highs and shirt fronts so we have to be harder.

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                • penga
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2601

                  #83
                  Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                  That's true for individuals, but you expect more consistent results (or less volatile results) from a team.
                  The exact same thing happened to my NFL team, the Denver Broncos. They were dominant all year, believed their own hype, and didn't turn up for Superbowl Sunday. And that is with Peyton throwing the most completed passes in Superbowl history. He was the only one who turned up to play, despite his two INT, similar to Buddy. The comparison between the two teams' performances is actually pretty frightening.

                  Hawthorn wanted it more, Seattle wanted it more. Game over.
                  C'mon Chels!

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                  • Auntie.Gerald
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6480

                    #84
                    Mitchell eyeing big 2015 with the Swans - sydneyswans.com.au

                    tom contracted for 2015 and 2016 ?
                    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                    • Matt80
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 1802

                      #85
                      Originally posted by penga
                      The exact same thing happened to my NFL team, the Denver Broncos. They were dominant all year, believed their own hype, and didn't turn up for Superbowl Sunday. And that is with Peyton throwing the most completed passes in Superbowl history. He was the only one who turned up to play, despite his two INT, similar to Buddy. The comparison between the two teams' performances is actually pretty frightening.

                      Hawthorn wanted it more, Seattle wanted it more. Game over.
                      Great to see a fellow NFL fan on Red and White. Do you think the AFL game will get to the stage where there are all these different set plays for different scenarios?

                      I can see a situation where a coach with a mediocre AFL team will take an NFL approach of scripting set plays for every position on the field on both offence and defence. This team will dominate the AFL until all AFL teams start scripting set plays for 80 minutes.

                      With 18 players a side who can go anywhere, there could be some very exciting scripted plays.

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                      • Conor_Dillon
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 1224

                        #86
                        You've officially lost the plot Matt
                        Twitter @cmdil
                        Instagram @conordillon

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                        • Matt80
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 1802

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
                          You've officially lost the plot Matt
                          Not at all. Set plays are already occurring from kick outs and centre square ball ups.

                          The set pieces will get more sophisticated and rehearsed.

                          If you have a situation where you have a mark 70m out from goal and all the opposition players are guarding space behind the ball, why should you not have 10 scripted set plays to work through that scenario. The captain will call the set play and all 18 attacking players will move into position and implement the play. You have 15 seconds to get into that position from the time the ball is marked.

                          It?s the future of the game. I?m writing the plot not losing it.

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                          • Melbourne_Blood
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2010
                            • 3312

                            #88
                            It?s the future of the game. I?m writing the plot not losing it.[/QUOTE]
                            Officially the wankiest thing you've ever said, and that's no mean feat.

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                            • RogueSwan
                              McVeigh for Brownlow
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 4602

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Matt80
                              I?m losing it.
                              had to edit it for accuracy.

                              The time taken for someone to setup for a shot on goal is a chance for the boys to have a breather. I don't they then want to have to be sprinting to a far wing because the captain calls a set play. The open structure of AFL allows for too many options for a captain (who is also probably looking for 10 seconds of respite) to be able to make a call. Players could be anywhere on the field and no where near where they need to be for certain plays.

                              Back on topic:

                              Looking just at our backs with Eski leaving and Shaw getting older who is going to be the dashing rebounder?

                              Is Rohan going to get enough of the ball to be effective?
                              Does Rampe take it on with his long kicking?
                              I don't think Macca has the top speed required any more.
                              Jones?
                              One from left field ... Cunningham?
                              "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                              • wolftone57
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 5857

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Matt80
                                Great to see a fellow NFL fan on Red and White. Do you think the AFL game will get to the stage where there are all these different set plays for different scenarios?

                                I can see a situation where a coach with a mediocre AFL team will take an NFL approach of scripting set plays for every position on the field on both offence and defence. This team will dominate the AFL until all AFL teams start scripting set plays for 80 minutes.

                                With 18 players a side who can go anywhere, there could be some very exciting scripted plays.
                                If you rely on set plays you become predictable. I can tell almost every move an NRL or gridiron team will make before they do it because they do it every week. We need to have a range of strategies not set plays Matt 80. Strategies to combat the opposition moves no matter what they do. We didn't have any answer for Hawks in the GF. I think the coaches really have to look at their contribution and come up with something different. Probably changing the team to match the forward structure. In other words great delivery and winning clearances & stoppages is a must. We can't keep relying on rebound footy it is exhausting and if their delivery is faultless, see Hawks, then it stuffs up.

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