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  • jono2707
    Goes up to 11
    • Oct 2007
    • 3326

    #31
    Originally posted by Matt80
    The depth chart rankings are up for debate amongst all members of the Red and White community. Ive started the process, but the process has been enriched by posters such as Rogue Swan, MCS and Wolftone.

    I would like you to help Dosser. Help me answer the key questions:

    1) Is Tom Mitchell ahead of Craig Bird in the inside midfield extracter rankings?

    2) Is X Richards ahead of Aliir in the tall defender rankings?

    You can also rank two teams on the one depth chart. If one team has more players at the top of the positional ranking, then that team should win.
    Wrong thread.

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    • Dosser
      Just wild about Harry
      • Mar 2011
      • 1833

      #32
      Originally posted by Matt80
      The depth chart rankings are up for debate amongst all members of the Red and White community. Ive started the process, but the process has been enriched by posters such as Rogue Swan, MCS and Wolftone.

      I would like you to help Dosser. Help me answer the key questions:

      1) Is Tom Mitchell ahead of Craig Bird in the inside midfield extracter rankings?

      2) Is X Richards ahead of Aliir in the tall defender rankings?

      You can also rank two teams on the one depth chart. If one team has more players at the top of the positional ranking, then that team should win.
      I would help, but what the @#$! Are the "inside midfielder extracter (sic) rankings" and why did you think you had to invent that?

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16733

        #33
        Originally posted by jono2707
        Wrong thread.
        Fixed up

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          #34
          Originally posted by Matt80
          The depth chart rankings are up for debate amongst all members of the Red and White community. Ive started the process, but the process has been enriched by posters such as Rogue Swan, MCS and Wolftone.
          I would like you to help Dosser. Help me answer the key questions:

          1) Is Tom Mitchell ahead of Craig Bird in the inside midfield extracter rankings?
          Here are my extractor rankings:
          1. JPK
          2. Luke Parker
          3. Tom Mirtchell
          4. Craig Bird


          And here is my depth charge:

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          • Matt80
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Sep 2013
            • 1802

            #35
            Originally posted by Dosser
            I would help, but what the @#$! Are the "inside midfielder extracter (sic) rankings" and why did you think you had to invent that?
            I've identified three categories of midfielder in the AFL. I've also given the best AFL examples I can think of.

            Inside midfield extractors are the guys who play closest to the ruckman. They often pick the ball up or wrestle for it in tight. Most of their possessions are hard ball gets. They are usually not noted for their hard running in open field or their pace. They are usually strong, big bodied and can withstand a high degree of physical pressure. Josh Kennedy, Jobe Watson, Sam Mitchell and Scott Selwood are the great extractors in the game.

            Running Inside / Outside midfielders are dual purpose midfielders who do some work in tight, some work in the open, they provide a high degree of running endurance and can sometimes break the lines. Examples include Patrick Dangerfield, K.Jack, Luke Hodge, Hanners, Scott Pendulbury, Daniel Wells, Chris Judd, Nat Fyfe and Garry Ablett.

            Fast Outside midfielders

            These are the guys who have electric pace and break the lines. They don't usually extract the ball and are the guys on the end of the long handballs. They are noted for their ability to spread and do their best work in space. Examples include Stephen Hill, Brad Hill, Issac Smith, Lewis Jetta, Daniel Motlop, and a host of Port Adelaide midfielders.

            The depth chart uses these three different midfield categories to rank the Swans midfielders.

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            • Dosser
              Just wild about Harry
              • Mar 2011
              • 1833

              #36
              Originally posted by Matt80

              The depth chart uses these three different midfield categories to rank the Swans midfielders.
              Your "depth chart". Not mine. It is a figment of your imagination, not a fait accomplis.

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              • Matt80
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2013
                • 1802

                #37
                Originally posted by Dosser
                Your "depth chart". Not mine. It is a figment of your imagination, not a fait accomplis.
                The depth chart is derived from US sports where it's shown live and constantly updated on a clubs website. I believe the depth chart can be even more interesting for AFL analysis because AFL players are rotated through multiple positions and can be assessed on those different positions.

                The depth chart will become fait accomplis when David King or Alistir Lynch start using it. It's only a matter of time as all innovative US sports ideas eventually make their way to Australian sports.

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                • aguy
                  Senior Player
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 1324

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Matt80
                  The depth chart is derived from US sports where it's shown live and constantly updated on a clubs website. I believe the depth chart can be even more interesting for AFL analysis because AFL players are rotated through multiple positions and can be assessed on those different positions.

                  The depth chart will become fait accomplis when David King or Alistir Lynch start using it. It's only a matter of time as all innovative US sports ideas eventually make their way to Australian sports.
                  It's virtually guaranteed now because David King and Allistair Lynch are big Matt80 fans ????

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                  • RogueSwan
                    McVeigh for Brownlow
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 4602

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Matt80
                    I've identified three categories of midfielder in the AFL. I've also given the best AFL examples I can think of.

                    Inside midfield extractors

                    Running Inside / Outside midfielders .

                    Fast Outside midfielders
                    A.K.A
                    Followers;
                    Centres; and
                    wingmen
                    "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                    • Dosser
                      Just wild about Harry
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1833

                      #40
                      Originally posted by RogueSwan
                      A.K.A
                      Followers;
                      Centres; and
                      wingmen
                      +1. Let's keep at least some of our heritage without handing it all over to Americanisation.

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                      • goods78
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 269

                        #41
                        Originally posted by RogueSwan
                        A.K.A
                        Followers;
                        Centres; and
                        wingmen
                        I'm all for keeping heritage, but when has a recent AFL footballer or coach commonly quoted these positions? Every interview in the last few years has players and coaches talking about the categories Matt80 describes.

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                        • Matt80
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 1802

                          #42
                          It's time to update the Swans depth chart before round one.

                          Tall Defender

                          1) T. Richards
                          2) Grundy
                          3) Rampe
                          4) Reid
                          5) X. Richards
                          6) Aliir
                          7) Melican
                          8) Davis
                          9) McLaren

                          Medium Defender

                          1) Rampe
                          2) Rohan
                          3) Laidler
                          4) Towers

                          Small Defender

                          1) Smith
                          2) McVeigh
                          3) Jetta
                          4) Shaw
                          5) Jones
                          6) Newman

                          Ruckman

                          1) Pyke
                          2) Tippett
                          3) Naismith
                          4) Tom D
                          5) Toby N
                          6) McLaren

                          Inside Midfield Extractors

                          1) Kennedy
                          2) Parker
                          3) Bird
                          4) Mitchell
                          5) Hewitt
                          6) Foote

                          Running Inside / Outside Mid Fielders

                          1) K. Jack
                          2) Hanners
                          3) McVeigh
                          4) McGlynn
                          5) Goodes
                          6) Lloyd
                          7) Heeney
                          8) Jones

                          Fast Outside Midfielders

                          1) Jetta
                          2) Cunningham
                          3) Rohan
                          4) Robinson
                          5) B. Jack
                          6) Hiscox
                          7) Perris
                          8) Marsh

                          Tall Forwards

                          1) Franklin
                          2) Tippett
                          3) Reid
                          4) Pyke
                          5) Toby N
                          6) McLaren
                          7) Davis

                          Medium Forwards

                          1) Goodes
                          2) Kennedy
                          3) Rohan
                          4) Towers
                          5) Robinson
                          6) Rose

                          Small Forwards

                          1) Parker
                          2) K. Jack
                          3) McVeigh
                          4) Heeney
                          5) McGlynn
                          6) Cunningham
                          7) Lloyd
                          8) Brandon Jack
                          9) Hiscox

                          Long Term Injured

                          Johnson

                          Key Moves

                          - Naismith has moved ahead of Tom D in the ruckman depth chart rankings.

                          - Bird has moved ahead of Mitchell in the inside midfield extractor rankings.

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                          • Auntie.Gerald
                            Veterans List
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6474

                            #43



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                            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                            • goswannies
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 3048

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald

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                              Hehehe

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