Round 1 V Essendon

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Buddy was fit, there was not risk in playing him. It was a freak accident.

No, no Matt80's right! Horse didn't want to risk a paper cut shuffling papers in the coaches box. In comes Dewey. The club knows not to risk the big guns.

[Auntie.Gerald]

alrighty

now i am confused on what our round 1 team will look like??

we have a lot of guys who are not at full fitness but at least Bud and Kizza are not far off full fitness if they are ok with injuries

Macca?
McGlynn?
Bud
KJack
Tip?

I suspect that Heeney may have done enough and he is versatile enough to get a start ahead of Mitchell if it comes down to it

[aguy]

alrighty

now i am confused on what our round 1 team will look like??

we have a lot of guys who are not at full fitness but at least Bud and Kizza are not far off full fitness if they are ok with injuries

Macca?
McGlynn?
Bud
KJack
Tip?

I suspect that Heeney may have done enough and he is versatile enough to get a start ahead of Mitchell if it comes down to it

I too think Heeney should play round one. I think he will shine with buddy and Tippett in the forward line. We have our small forward who pops up in the midfield too.

[S.S. Bleeder]

Assuming that everyone is available for round 1, this is the line up I'd like to see:
B: Smith - Richards - Rampe
HB: McVeigh - Grundy - Jetta
C: Bird - Mitchell - Hannebery
HF: K.Jack - Franklin - Cunningham
FF: Goodes - Tippett - McGlynn
Ruck: Pkye - Kennedy - Parker
INT: Reid - Heeney - Rohan
SUB: LLoyd/Towers/Jones

I would expect that Shaw will be in the side however. The coaches will most likely prefer his experience.

[Auntie.Gerald]

B: Smith - Richards - Rampe
HB: McVeigh - Grundy - Shaw
C: Cunningham - Lloyd - Hannebery
HF: K.Jack - Franklin - Birdy
FF: Goodes - Tippett - McGlynn
Ruck: Pyke - Kennedy - Parker
INT: Reid - Mitchell - Jetts - Heeney

Jack seemed to think Laidler was going to be in the 22 ??

But for me Rohan is behind the impact for 4 qtrs that Mitchell and Heeney can have on the game

Obviously Reid jumps into the backline if the opposition plays tall in the forward line

[aguy]

Assuming that everyone is available for round 1, this is the line up I'd like to see:
B: Smith - Richards - Rampe
HB: McVeigh - Grundy - Jetta
C: Bird - Mitchell - Hannebery
HF: K.Jack - Franklin - Cunningham
FF: Goodes - Tippett - McGlynn
Ruck: Pkye - Kennedy - Parker
INT: Reid - Heeney - Rohan
SUB: LLoyd/Towers/Jones

I would expect that Shaw will be in the side however. The coaches will most likely prefer his experience.

Yep that is the team that I would go with. I wonder if they may go with lloyd into the starting team though and have mitchell as sub. I too would like to see Shaw omitted but also think that the selectors are likely to back his experience.

Given that we haven't seen Jones at all in the NAB challenge I doubt he is in contention for round 1. It will be interesting to see who play for the reserves next week, could give us a clue to the fringe players for round 1.

[Matt80]

He is a team without the doubtful players:

Tippett
Franklin
McVeigh
McGlynn
K. Jack

B Rampe Richards Smith
HB Jetta Grundy Rohan
C Cunningham Mitchell Hanners
HF Towers Reid Heeney
F Lloyd Pyke Goodes
Foll Naismith Kennedy Parker

Inter Bird, Laidler, Shaw
Sub B.Jack

[aguy]

He is a team without the doubtful players:

Tippett
Franklin
McVeigh
McGlynn
K. Jack

B Rampe Richards Smith
HB Jetta Grundy Rohan
C Cunningham Mitchell Hanners
HF Towers Reid Heeney
F Lloyd Pyke Goodes
Foll Naismith Kennedy Parker

Inter Bird, Laidler, Shaw
Sub B.Jack

Would look better with membrey there.

[RogueSwan]

B: Smith - Richards - Rampe
HB: McVeigh - Grundy - Shaw
C: Cunningham - Lloyd - Hannebery
HF: K.Jack - Franklin - Birdy
FF: Goodes - Tippett - McGlynn
Ruck: Pyke - Kennedy - Parker
INT: Reid - Mitchell - Jetts - Heeney

...

I would prefer this over SS's team.
Until proved otherwise Lloyd should be a starter (or on the bench - not sub).
Maybe Benny out with injury cloud allowing Laids in to the bench and Heeney the sub?

[goods78]

...Jack seemed to think Laidler was going to be in the 22 ??.....

It was pretty common last year to pump up the fringe players at this time last year

[Doctor]

Assuming that everyone is available for round 1, this is the line up I'd like to see:
B: Smith - Richards - Rampe
HB: McVeigh - Grundy - Jetta
C: Bird - Mitchell - Hannebery
HF: K.Jack - Franklin - Cunningham
FF: Goodes - Tippett - McGlynn
Ruck: Pkye - Kennedy - Parker
INT: Reid - Heeney - Rohan
SUB: LLoyd/Towers/Jones

I would expect that Shaw will be in the side however. The coaches will most likely prefer his experience.

Don't mind this team but Lloyd has to play, based on last year, and Shaw certainly will, and I think he went ok today. Heeney as sub is best he can hope for at this stage but I suspect he's probably no. 23 at best if all are fit.

[Ludwig]

It was hard to make an assessment of how the side will shape up with our 2 big guns missing from the forward line.

Lucky that we are playing the Bombers. Regardless how the doping ruling comes out, we should be playing a fairly inexperienced or underdone side. So having Buddy and Tippo playing their first game together for the season shouldn't be too big a drama. Goodes seems okay and should be damaging with the other 2 taking the main defenders.

I was pleased to see Reid playing the whole game down back even though he didn't look great at times. I think we need to persist with this and hope the chemistry comes right in due course. I'm not sure if Laidler can hold his place, although he has been putting in reasonable performances; it's just a matter of who to leave out. He's a strong kick of the ball, so can take the kick-ins and give a bit more freedom to Jetta, who has looked very damaging and could be headed for a big season.

I agree with those who think that we will opt to keep Shaw in the side, at least until it is more settled. Just makes it harder to see who gets omitted.

Heeney looks too good to leave out of the side. He does it all. It's hard to believe the physicality and aggression from such a young player. Takes marks, kicks goals, tackles. He already seems an accomplished player.

All that said, I would hate to see Towers dropped from the team. He has made so much progress and coming along nicely for a player that's only had a handful of senior games. I wouldn't want to hamper his development. His quick handball set up the winning goal today.

I still have 25 players in my 1st round side, which is a pretty good position to be in.

[S.S. Bleeder]

Maybe we should leave Heeney out of the side until a decision has been made on the academy/FS percentages? Him being amongst the best in round one won't help our call for a higher % for the academy selections. After the decision has been finalised we can let him go for it.

[graemed]

I was pleased to see Reid playing the whole game down back even though he didn't look great at times. I think we need to persist with this and hope the chemistry comes right in due course.

I agree with most of your comments but fear that Reid on the back line is a bridge too far at this time. He lacks the strength or the experience to out maneuver the monster opponents like Hawkins and does not have the acceleration to go with a leading forward like Gunston.

Cameron was all over him and its all very well to say he can learn on the job but he's been working up back all summer on Buddy and Tippett maybe he has to do it in the ressies or not at all.

That said there was not much to get excited about regarding our defence, the Jetta experiment continues with varied success and whilst he was running strongly with the ball, his decision making and disposal selection lack perception and precision, and turnovers will kill us against the better teams. Too often he finishes good work with a long bomb to a contest or a pass through the corridor that misses the target.

Shaw also spoils good upfield work with turnovers.

Those concerns aside, Heeney was impressive and despite my earlier belief he may need some time in reserves, I take it back unreservedly, he's ready. He'll be a handful for any defence.

I thought Mitchell did enough with opportunities he had. Robinson was given more game time, probably as a balance issue given he was taller and could play a forward role better. But when he got his chance he certainly had the better of his duel with the GWS onballers.

Was it my imagination or are teams targeting Hannabery whenever he goes near the ball? He has copped plenty in the 3 NAB games and looked like he was a little the worse for wear by the end.

Our rucks held their own against Mumford but without Tippett or Derrickx, Pyke cannot do the job alone and whilst Naismith is improving he seems at least one season away from this level.

Would have liked to see Allir get a decent hitout during this preseason. He has looked very impressive on the training track and I thought he deserved a showing. Especially with our dearth of tall defenders.

My 22, given Franklin, Tippett, McVeigh, McGlynn, K. Jack and Derrickx may all be unavailable:

B: Smith Richards Rohan
HB: Laidler Grundy Rampe
C: Hannabery Kennedy Cunningham
HF: Heeney Reid Towers
F: Bird Goodes Naismith
Foll: Pyke Parker Mitchell
Res: Lloyd, Jetta , B Jack*
Sub: Robinson**

** Franklin if available
*K. Jack if available

[Conor_Dillon]

You'd have Franklin as the sub??