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  • Simo
    Pushing for Selection
    • Jul 2011
    • 77

    Jones

    Can someone let me know why jones isn't playing these games?
  • Matt80
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2013
    • 1802

    #2
    This is the biggest pre-season question. I don't think he is injured.

    You would have thought if Hiscox, B.Jack and Robinson were getting a run, then Zac Jones would get a run.

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    • Simo
      Pushing for Selection
      • Jul 2011
      • 77

      #3
      Hiding him from Melbourne scouts? Haha.

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      • i'm-uninformed2
        Reefer Madness
        • Oct 2003
        • 4653

        #4
        Has to be an injury
        'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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        • Melbourne_Blood
          Senior Player
          • May 2010
          • 3312

          #5
          I can't see him not getting a run in pre season if not for injury. He played a handful of games in his first year! In a good side!

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          • Conor_Dillon
            On the Rookie List
            • Jun 2013
            • 1224

            #6
            He's been in the rehab group in a lot of photos but definitely never listed as injured...it's really strange!
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            • Legs Akimbo
              Grand Poobah
              • Apr 2005
              • 2809

              #7
              It doesn't look good. Conjecture at the other place that he's already indicated he will be out at seasons end. Maybe 2 + 2 = 5, but something seems...amiss.
              He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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              • Auntie.Gerald
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2009
                • 6483

                #8
                I think there are a stack of players on the cusp of playing Snrs

                Harry and Lloyd have made the 22 there own so far as they play very important roles

                Towers, Heeney, Rohan, Laidler, Mitchell, Hiscox, Aliir, Jones etc etc will be fighting for a spot in the 22 most weeks until two or three of them gain momentum

                Jones for me is under pressure because Jetts and Macca will be rotating thru the backline and for me Jones is more the incumbent Nick Smith role then the Mal role
                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                • Matt80
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 1802

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
                  It doesn't look good. Conjecture at the other place that he's already indicated he will be out at seasons end. Maybe 2 + 2 = 5, but something seems...amiss.
                  If he is going to be leaving, what is the best option for the Swans:

                  1) Have him languishing in the reserves with limited game time so that his next contract in Melbourne is on the lower end. He could do a Membrey and we would get nothing for him.

                  2) Start playing him in the seniors so we could get a better value trade for him at seasons end. He could still do a Membrey at seasons end and fall through to the Demons who will probably finish last.

                  Maybe the club has decided on option one.

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                  • Matt80
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 1802

                    #10
                    I wanted to ask Ugg his expert opinion.

                    Can the Swans Reserves refuse to pick a senior or rookie listed player if it's clear that the player will not sign on for the Swans beyond the current season?

                    Can a senior or rookie listed player be restricted trade in favour of Academy players who the club can derive a long term dividend?

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                    • RogueSwan
                      McVeigh for Brownlow
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 4602

                      #11
                      Maybe the powers that be already feel confident in their assessment of him but not so other newbies? He may have an almost injury and nothing will be gained by playing him now except pushing a niggle into a tear?
                      "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                      • S.S. Bleeder
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 2165

                        #12
                        I'd be willing to trade Jones at the end of the year. We have too many quality midfielders. Having midfield talent like Jones (although he can play back as well), Hewitt, Perris, Robinson, etc playing in the Magoo's won't do us any good and they will eventually walk anyway We're better off trading some of those fringe players for draft picks. We would have to get a first round pick for Jones. We could use that pick to help us get Mills and Dunkley.

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                        • Matt80
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 1802

                          #13
                          Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                          I'd be willing to trade Jones at the end of the year. We have too many quality midfielders. Having midfield talent like Jones (although he can play back as well), Hewitt, Perris, Robinson, etc playing in the Magoo's won't do us any good and they will eventually walk anyway We're better off trading some of those fringe players for draft picks. We would have to get a first round pick for Jones. We could use that pick to help us get Mills and Dunkley.
                          The unfortunate thing is that we will get nothing for Jones in a trade situation. The Demons, judging by their poor performance against the depleted Dons, may finish last. This will lead to Jones falling into his bothers arms for no compensation to the Swans.

                          Clubs such as GWS and Brisbane will improve this year so there is every chance that the bottom three clubs will be The Demons, The Saints or possibly even the Magpies.

                          This will give Jones a free ride home.

                          It's happened to the Swans with Lamb and Membrey.

                          If Jones is not going to commit to Swans I say make him train by himself and pick Academy players to take his spot in the reserves.

                          This may be hardcore, but we cannot continue to be taken for a ride by these young players.

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                          • jono2707
                            Goes up to 11
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 3326

                            #14
                            What's with all this conjecture about Zac? Can someone spell it out please?

                            Otherwise I'd think we're all being a bit hasty in writing off a very bright prospect who's entering his second year on our list....

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                            • sprite
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 813

                              #15
                              If has been with the rehab group - would be logical to conclude an injury (don't seeing him pulling a heart muscle - no heart for the Swans).

                              Didn't he have an Achillies injury last year? - These things are hard to get over, maybe he has aggravated it.. who knows.

                              But to jump on the trade bandwagon seems a little premature.

                              Give the kid a break FFS..
                              sprite

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