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  • PerthSwannie
    Regular in the Side
    • Jun 2006
    • 523

    Was the 2006 West Coast Grand Final tainted?

    Interesting article by Andrew Burrell

    (.........Respected Melbourne-based football journalist Mike Sheahan tells The Weekend Australian that the Eagles? 2006 premiership should now be considered @?tainted? given the number of players known to have been using substances that were banned or performance-enhancing.

    ?My gut feel is that there were six or seven who have had major substance problems either at the time or since, and that the club was aware of that and it was allowed to continue,? he says......)

    Even Santa follows the Swannies.
  • Zlatorog
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2006
    • 1748

    #2
    Finally, somebody had the guts to talk about it. We heard the rumours it was tainted ages ago.

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    • annew
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2006
      • 2164

      #3
      Originally posted by PerthSwannie
      Interesting article by Andrew Burrell

      (.........Respected Melbourne-based football journalist Mike Sheahan tells The Weekend Australian that the Eagles? 2006 premiership should now be considered @?tainted? given the number of players known to have been using substances that were banned or performance-enhancing.

      ?My gut feel is that there were six or seven who have had major substance problems either at the time or since, and that the club was aware of that and it was allowed to continue,? he says......)

      http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spor...-1227271987582
      Would love to read the article but I dont subscribe to The Australian so cannot open it.

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      • The Big Cat
        On the veteran's list
        • Apr 2006
        • 2347

        #4
        Do a Google search for Andrew Burrell Eagles and you'll get there.
        Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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        • royboy42
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2006
          • 2076

          #5
          Originally posted by The Big Cat
          Do a Google search for Andrew Burrell Eagles and you'll get there.
          They've caught up with that one too..Bloody walls.

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          • andy0414
            Pushing for Selection
            • Nov 2004
            • 71

            #6
            They are still claiming that the substances were not performance enhancing so it doesn't matter. This is rubbish because if they had stopped taking the drugs they would not been able to perform at all. The club turned a blind eye to the problem to win a premiership. Even Cousins was surprised by what he got away with.
            Where's the remote?

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            • The Big Cat
              On the veteran's list
              • Apr 2006
              • 2347

              #7
              Originally posted by andy0414
              They are still claiming that the substances were not performance enhancing so it doesn't matter. This is rubbish because if they had stopped taking the drugs they would not been able to perform at all. The club turned a blind eye to the problem to win a premiership. Even Cousins was surprised by what he got away with.
              Gerard Healy has always claimed that cocaine etc IS performance enhancing as it allows players to train harder without pain. (Remember the "gut running" of Cousins and Kerr!)
              Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16733

                #8
                After nearly 10 years, is it something worth dwelling on? We scored one less point during the game, and as a result didn't get to experience the post match euphoria that comes with following a premiership-winning team. Nothing gets that back - no amount of asterisks against the name of the winning team, regardless of whether they are warranted or not (which we will never know anyway).

                We're fortunate enough that our club has reclimbed the mountain once since then. And while it may never quite feel like it, also fortunate that they've been good enough to at least reach the grand final on a second occasion since. We sit here at the start of 2015 knowing our club is a pretty decent chance to challenge strongly again this year. I'd rather relish the here and now, that dwell all the way back to 2006. Especially when I think back to those years at the start of the "modern era" of the Sydney Swans from 1996 to 2004, when we were sometimes good but never quite good enough, and we all must have wondered if our club would ever be good enough to actually win the darned thing. Not to mention those who supported the club all throughout the 72 year drought.

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                • aguy
                  Senior Player
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 1324

                  #9
                  Originally posted by liz
                  After nearly 10 years, is it something worth dwelling on? We scored one less point during the game, and as a result didn't get to experience the post match euphoria that comes with following a premiership-winning team. Nothing gets that back - no amount of asterisks against the name of the winning team, regardless of whether they are warranted or not (which we will never know anyway).

                  We're fortunate enough that our club has reclimbed the mountain once since then. And while it may never quite feel like it, also fortunate that they've been good enough to at least reach the grand final on a second occasion since. We sit here at the start of 2015 knowing our club is a pretty decent chance to challenge strongly again this year. I'd rather relish the here and now, that dwell all the way back to 2006. Especially when I think back to those years at the start of the "modern era" of the Sydney Swans from 1996 to 2004, when we were sometimes good but never quite good enough, and we all must have wondered if our club would ever be good enough to actually win the darned thing. Not to mention those who supported the club all throughout the 72 year drought.
                  Well said liz

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                  • Matt80
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 1802

                    #10
                    Originally posted by liz
                    After nearly 10 years, is it something worth dwelling on? We scored one less point during the game, and as a result didn't get to experience the post match euphoria that comes with following a premiership-winning team. Nothing gets that back - no amount of asterisks against the name of the winning team, regardless of whether they are warranted or not (which we will never know anyway).

                    We're fortunate enough that our club has reclimbed the mountain once since then. And while it may never quite feel like it, also fortunate that they've been good enough to at least reach the grand final on a second occasion since. We sit here at the start of 2015 knowing our club is a pretty decent chance to challenge strongly again this year. I'd rather relish the here and now, that dwell all the way back to 2006. Especially when I think back to those years at the start of the "modern era" of the Sydney Swans from 1996 to 2004, when we were sometimes good but never quite good enough, and we all must have wondered if our club would ever be good enough to actually win the darned thing. Not to mention those who supported the club all throughout the 72 year drought.
                    Well said Liz. I also feel sorry for great AFL players like Judd, Cox, Embley and Glass who are having their precious Premiership questioned due to the actions of a couple of clowns. It's also worth noting the stand taken by Embley against this behaviour. He is a very worthy Norm Smith medallist.

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                    • The Big Cat
                      On the veteran's list
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2347

                      #11
                      Originally posted by liz
                      After nearly 10 years, is it something worth dwelling on? We scored one less point during the game, and as a result didn't get to experience the post match euphoria that comes with following a premiership-winning team. Nothing gets that back - no amount of asterisks against the name of the winning team, regardless of whether they are warranted or not (which we will never know anyway).

                      We're fortunate enough that our club has reclimbed the mountain once since then. And while it may never quite feel like it, also fortunate that they've been good enough to at least reach the grand final on a second occasion since. We sit here at the start of 2015 knowing our club is a pretty decent chance to challenge strongly again this year. I'd rather relish the here and now, that dwell all the way back to 2006. Especially when I think back to those years at the start of the "modern era" of the Sydney Swans from 1996 to 2004, when we were sometimes good but never quite good enough, and we all must have wondered if our club would ever be good enough to actually win the darned thing. Not to mention those who supported the club all throughout the 72 year drought.
                      I see your point about euphoria, but I want that premiership. We wos robbed just as Geelong was against Carlton when half the team has admitted to taking cash under the table. And I think that Geelong also has a case for their loss to the Eagles in the 90's when West Coast went from normal men to incredible hulks under the tutelage of the Australian weight lifting coach!

                      I don't believe in draft penalties etc as punishment for breaches which contribute to winning a flag. Ask any team official if they'd rather be impaired in winning a premiership in the next five years or keeping one that is already in the bag I know what 18 out of 18 clubs would do. The only way to punish clubs who are cheats is the take their ill-gotten premierships away, not make it harder to win another one which they probably wouldn't win anyway. I'm sure Melbourne Storm would be happy to trade back their NRL flags for the penalties they may have received for future years.
                      Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                      • Dosser
                        Just wild about Harry
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1833

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Matt80
                        Well said Liz. I also feel sorry for great AFL players like Judd, Cox, Embley and Glass who are having their precious Premiership questioned due to the actions of a couple of clowns. It's also worth noting the stand taken by Embley against this behaviour. He is a very worthy Norm Smith medallist.
                        Good point

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                        • andy0414
                          Pushing for Selection
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 71

                          #13
                          It's worth pursuing when you live in Perth and only hear how wonderful the Eagles are. If this had been an Eastern States team we would never have heard the end of it. It takes the shine off their win when it is tainted with drugs.
                          It also highlights a problem in sport where the glory of winning is put ahead of the welfare of the players.
                          Where's the remote?

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                          • Mug Punter
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 3325

                            #14
                            I think it is certainly relevant given the current crucifixion of James Hird and the bombers.

                            There is absolutely no way that Worsfold and the Eagles were fully aware of Kerr, Chick, Cousins, Gardiner et al for YEARS before the 2006 flag. It was an open secret in 2001, I worked with a bunch of WA boys and they were all aware if the junkies at the club.

                            The result can never be reversed and the Swans will never get justice but that flag must be viewed by any fair minded followers of AFL as having a massive * against it.

                            As an aside I find Weagles fans amongst the most smug self righteous in the league. A lot of it is tied up in the insular provincial nature of Perth in general. A friend of mine is a Weagles fan who HATES Jane s Hird with a fashion, calling him a drug cheat and all the insults under the sun but if you mention the Weagles drug culture he goes beyond self righteous.

                            It's pathetic in the extreme and I am glad that someone as respected as Mike Sheahan has the guts to call them out publicly

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                            • PerthSwannie
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 523

                              #15
                              Originally posted by andy0414
                              It's worth pursuing when you live in Perth and only hear how wonderful the Eagles are.
                              HaHa..... Yes. Living in Perth and being surrounded by Wiggle supporters who can see no wrong doing by their holier than thou boys. Drugs?? what drugs they say while sheepishly looking the other way. I say to all of them that they should hand that 2006 Cup to the Swans. Oh no no no they say. It was won fair and square they say.

                              Like hell.............................................. ........
                              Even Santa follows the Swannies.

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