Changes for Rnd 3 V GWS

[jono2707]

Crowd predictions for the Sydney Derby?

2nd vs 3rd.

Unfortunetly, unless you live in the eastern suburbs the venue is near impossible to get to, so 25,000.

I take great umbrage at this post - I don't think the match is big enough to warrant the capitalisation of the word 'derby'.

[i'm-uninformed2]

I agree. I hope the end of Adams career is handled with the dignity it deserves. I'd hate for it to be mishandled.

This . . . I tended to err on the side that it was a rational decision for him to play this year, and he and the club would have thought about it sensibly. I am also not convinced based on one slop-bucket game and one as sub that the end has come already, and he can't yet contribute something.

And it says a fair bit about Goodes that he's made the decision he has this week.

My other instinct is both he and Horse have a huge regard for one another and will handle it all sensibly. But let's hope so, as we're talking about the one guy in our club's history who deserves to sit alongside Skilton and Kelly. When it finishes, that may well come with a recognition from both sides that time has been reached.

Done well, that's fine. And Adam can go with the reverence he has earned.

[mcs]

Won't be Mitchell. It think it will be McGlynn.

Longmire does not play Mitchell, Bird, Kennedy, and Parker in the same team.

I hope that Heeney is the sub, but judging by Longmires admission that Goodes turned down the sub role, Heeney was not going to be given the sub role. I think is would be wise to rest up Heeney before Subiaco in the vest

If McGlynn is not ready then Brandon Jack will come into the subs vest. I don't mind Brandon as sub. He can come on late in the game and apply forward chasing pressure and nail 3-4 big tackles.

I'd be exceptionally suprised if they brought in Brandon Jack. I would argue that Mitchell, Cunningham, Hewett and Jones may well be in front of him in the queue. He didn't make the 'best' list in ressies last week despite having the 4th best stats (as measured by Dream Team points).

I really hope we pick Mitchell though, just so we can't avoid your ad nauseum repeating of the same theory time and time again

Mcglynn as sub is my call with no other changes - but as Ugg says, they may prefer for Mcglynn to get another full game in the ressies, and then you'd expect Cunningham is likely to be next in line.

[Matt80]

I would have thought his fitness want the problem, he had more of a pre season this year than last. And, as a few posters have said, we haven't really had a good chance to check his form. A wet weather game at crap Stadium and half a quarter of dead time aren't really enough to completely judge.
Maybe Adam has realised he may not be good enough anymore and wants to be seen making the choices not being " dumped " by the coach into the Ressies. He could be doing the team thing by giving up his spot so that someone, eg: Mitchell, can get a run in the seniors.

How could he be doing the team thing by electing to go to the reserves? He was offered an AFL game at senior level and turned it down.

As sub there is sometimes an opportunity to come in early due to injury or concussion. He may have got a decent game anyway if he was the sub.

This to me could be spin on a dummy spit about senior game time.

[Ampersand]

Here's an interesting question: if Franklin or Tippett are injured is Goodes straight back in the side or are we looking at someone like Nankervis coming in?

[mcs]

How could he be doing the team thing by electing to go to the reserves? He was offered an AFL game at senior level and turned it down.

As sub there is sometimes an opportunity to come in early due to injury or concussion. He may have got a decent game anyway if he was the sub.

This to me could be spin on a dummy spit about senior game time.

You look for drama in every little thing, don't you Matt80? One day we will all die of shock when you actually take something at face value, and not try to come up with some sort of conspiracy theory instead!

[Matt80]

I'd be exceptionally suprised if they brought in Brandon Jack. I would argue that Mitchell, Cunningham, Hewett and Jones may well be in front of him in the queue. He didn't make the 'best' list in ressies last week despite having the 4th best stats (as measured by Dream Team points).

I really hope we pick Mitchell though, just so we can't avoid your ad nauseum repeating of the same theory time and time again

Mcglynn as sub is my call with no other changes - but as Ugg says, they may prefer for Mcglynn to get another full game in the ressies, and then you'd expect Cunningham is likely to be next in line.

I have said that I would apologise to the Red and White community if Mitchell, Bird, Kennedy and Parker are played in the one team.

I forgot about Cunningham. He would be ahead of Brandon Jack for the subs role if McGlynn needs more time.

[Ampersand]

How could he be doing the team thing by electing to go to the reserves? He was offered an AFL game at senior level and turned it down.

As sub there is sometimes an opportunity to come in early due to injury or concussion. He may have got a decent game anyway if he was the sub.

This to me could be spin on a dummy spit about senior game time.

I don't think that's a correct reading of the situation at all. Goodes may not feel that he can get his touch and match fitness playing a quarter of footy a week. Unlike some commentators, I don't think he is a good choice for sub at all and would much prefer a pacier option coming off the bench to maintain our defensive pressure and run at the tail end of games.

Goodes is a cameo player that needs at least 3 quarters of game time to impact the contest and scoreboard. If he can't contribute in that form I'd rather he were not selected.

[Matt80]

You look for drama in every little thing, don't you Matt80? One day we will all die of shock when you actually take something at face value, and not try to come up with some sort of conspiracy theory instead!

He was offered a role at senior level and said no. I am quoting Longmires words.

Would Heeney tell Longmire that he does not want to be the sub two weeks in a row and that he would prefer a full game in the NEAFL?

[aardvark]

He was offered a role at senior level and said no. I am quoting Longmires words.

Would Heeney tell Longmire that he does not want to be the sub two weeks in a row and that he would prefer a full game in the NEAFL?

Heeney and Goodes are totally different situations. Goodes needs game time to get match fit so he can possibly play a role in the seniors. Heeney is a young kid who will jump at any opportunity to play.

[Meg]

He was offered a role at senior level and said no. I am quoting Longmires words.

No, that's not what Longmire is quoted as saying:
Longmire: "I suggested he start as the sub and he suggested he play in the Reserves and get some quality game time and form and fitness."
That's a conversation, not a "dummy spit" (your words).

[Matt80]

Heeney and Goodes are totally different situations. Goodes needs game time to get match fit so he can possibly play a role in the seniors. Heeney is a young kid who will jump at any opportunity to play.

He could have played sub, come on early as the sub, and played good game time. He could have played well and got of "dropped row".

Now he has been dropped and it could be hard to get back in.

I would rather gamble on the subs bench than in the NEAFL. He should have asked Tom Mitchell for some advice.

[rojo]

I think the decision just makes a lot of sense. I had Goodesy as sub in my unchanged team to play GWS despite the fact that I agree he is not a good choice for sub. We have known for ages that the team was a bit unbalanced playing KT, Buddy, Reid and Goodes. His role in the forward line seems redundant if we rotate Rohan and Heeney etc through there.

He obviously thinks he can live with the indignity of playing in the reserves, as ROK had to do before him. His influence there will be enormous and it will, as has already been said, give him opportunity to run into match fitness and form, ready to transition into the main team if and when needed. I know it is not quite the same but Chris Judd came back from injury through the 2's so Adam is not exactly a pioneer in the realm of champs running around in the 2's.

[dimelb]

He could have played sub, come on early as the sub, and played good game time. He could have played well and got of "dropped row".

Now he has been dropped and it could be hard to get back in.

I would rather gamble on the subs bench than in the NEAFL. He should have asked Tom Mitchell for some advice.

As the late great would have said, "Marvellous!"

[wolftone57]

Crowd predictions for the Sydney Derby?

2nd vs 3rd.

Unfortunetly, unless you live in the eastern suburbs the venue is near impossible to get to, so 25,000.

Rubbish. It is easy to get to. A train then special buses from Central. There will be between 35 & 40 thou there as it is our first home game.