-
Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09 -
The questions are:
How we stack up in the ruck against the following?- Sandilands
- Natanui
- Combination of Hale, McEvoy, Celgar.
Is our inferiority in the current ruck division enough to cost us a premiership?
If so, what can be done about it?
Most suggested solution
Comment
-
It is regularly put forward that it is your bottom six compared to the opposition's bottom is what often decides finals. Not one indiviudal.
Otherwise you would question:
Is will Parker not being as good as Fyfe cost us a GF if we meet Freo there?
Is the fact the Rooster not as consistent as Hill going to cost us a top two pos?
Is Mitchell better on the inside than Mitchell?
I think you are stretching your own imagery here.
No one is saying ignore the "ruck" problem, are they? Some are happier with the Devil they know, hoping he may find his best form, and others want to bring in a relatively untried reserve who has shown some promise. I am wanting to go down a different path and see TomD come in and play with some attitude."Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017Comment
-
In his presser today Horse has pretty much said some other rucks will get a go later in the season and sooner in the case of injury. That could be a good opportunity for giving Naismith and Nankervis some AFL game time. Personally I would prefer to see those guys get game time than Derickx because they are the future (we hope) and Derickx is our back-up for the present and I suspect we will only call on him in case of injury. I note in particular the last two rounds H&A we play bottom 4 teams (Saints, Suns) and it remains to be seen what sort of a proposition the Giants are the round before that. Anyway, overall I have a fairly high degree of faith in our match committee's selections which I think their much greater knowledge of (a) the game and (b) what's going on behind the scenes entitles them to - along with their proven track record. You think they are not working around the clock on how we can lift our game enough to beat Hawthorn? I don't buy that they are thinking about winning the next game to the exclusion of all else. We all want to WIN FLAGS.All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)
Comment
-
Our 'unexpected' win in 2012 was never a better example of just that. Our bottom 6 of the time would include guys like Myke, AJ, LRT, Mr September (aka Mitch Morton), even Nick Smith at the time although I suspect not internally. They all had career games.
Hawthorns bottom 6 like Puopolo, Ellis/Savage, Smith, Young, Schoenmakers never got near it all day...Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09Comment
-
Since signing Buddy our ruck stocks were always going to be our weak point. It looks like we are betting on Pykey to battle on like the pro he is whilst perhaps gettin a glimpse or two of one or two of the N's, neither of whom will be ready to really contribute for several more years.
So our game plan has adjusted accordingly. Yes it's a weakness but I ain't complaining with where we are at this point of the year.Comment
-
How old is Pyke?Comment
-
TomD did very little in the ressies a couple of weeks back against Eastlake - if it was me, he wouldn't even be in consideration unless Pyke is injured - whereas, I can see some reason for Nankervis or Naismith (who I think is the obvious ruckman going forward out of those currently on the list once Pyke is gone) playing in appropriate games later on in the season, to give Pyke a rest.
I can't believe we signed TomD till end of 2016 on the basis of a few reasonable efforts early on last season.
- - - Updated - - -
I don't have a theory past thinking that bringing in an untested ruckman against Richmond, who have a brute of a man (maybe not a great ruckman - but very physical) as their lead ruck might lead to a similar disaster as Naismith's debut last year - i.e. it would be unwise to do, when as we've both pointed out, it is a very important match. The last thing we want to do is ruin our good 1st half of the season by starting the second half of it poorly and dropping the games against Richmond and/or Port, which frankly, on form so far this season, we should be winning relatively comfortably at home.
I'll be interested to see how we go in the ruck against the Hawks in a few weeks time - it was the one place on the park we were, at least in my eyes, relatively well beaten by them earlier in the season. But we still won the game - as many say and I tend to agree, I don't the ruck is the be all and end all that it was once was within footy.
- - - Updated - - -
Except for last year, where it was our bottom 22 that decided the game - they all never got near it that day."You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."Comment
-
One change won't be McGlynn back in, they're giving him another week.
Latest injury news: McGlynn out, Grundy cleared - sydneyswans.com.auComment
- If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
- RWO Forum Rules (PLEASE READ FIRST)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Your posts may be deleted, without warning or notification at moderator discretion, for breach of any of the RWO rules set out below. If you have any questions or concerns about post/thread removal, please feel free to PM a moderator or Email us at [email protected]
Do not post your queries on the main boards. Such posts WILL be removed, without further explanation.
Constant breaches of the rules will result in your access to RWO being reduced as the Moderator / Administrator group see fit. RWO uses the vBulletin Infraction System to deal with breaches of the RWO rules. All Infractions have an expiry date. Such an expiry date may be as short as 10 days or as long as 6 months. Multiple infractions, depending on the number of points a member accumulates, WILL result in temporary bans from the site and CAN result in a permanent ban. Please note that some Infractions have an expiry date of "Never" and WILL result in the RWO member being banned from the site immediately.
1) Signatures / Avatars
Keep signatures under 4 lines of standard sized fonts (if you must use large fonts, use just one line) as a courtesy to all users who read the forums.
Do not use signatures / avatars as an opportunity to make jibes at other forum members. This will be considered to be sniping (refer Rule 6 below). You may not refer to another RWO forum member, or quote anything they have written, without permission from that member. Using an anonymous tag does not make it acceptable. If quotes are not removed, we reserve the right to remove them, without notification. If in doubt as to whether something is acceptable or not, don't use it!
2) Spamming
Advertising for personal commercial purposes is NOT permitted. Placing links to sites that other users may find of interest / personal websites is acceptable within reason (ie constantly posting links will be frowned upon).
3) Deliberately avoiding the RWO swear filter
RWO is a site that is accessible by Swans supporters of all ages and walks of life. A swear filter is in place to mask offensive words and phrases. This swear filter contains offensive words and variant spellings of offensive words to stop you from deliberately avoiding the swear filter. Do not attempt to avoid the swear filter through alternate spelling of offensive words. Do not attempt to avoid the swear filter by devising systems to fool the swear filter in its recognition of offensive words.
4) Inappropriate Language / Excessive swearing
RWO is a site that is accessible by Swans supporters of all ages and walks of life. Moderators will let some minor cases through. Anything deemed to be of poor taste or of an offensive nature may be removed at moderator discretion. Consider all members when posting; what you think is funny, not all members will feel the same way.
5) Trolling / Baiting
Deliberately posting on threads in an attempt to stir / bait other RWO users will not be tolerated.
6) Flaming / Sniping / Abuse / Insulting other members
If you have to have a go at someone personally, take it off the boards. Everyone else doesn't need to see your hissy fits. Remember, "Play the ball, not the man". This includes spouses or partners. If you don''t like a post, don't flame, snipe, abuse or insult in response - it makes the job of moderation much harder. Report the post through the forum reporting mechanism (click on the Triangle with the exclamation mark) and let the Moderator / Administrator group deal with it.
7) Legal issuesa) The Moderator / Administrator group will keep a very close eye on threads discussing rumours or anything that could be potentially libellous. Moderators and Administrators are not interested in the chance of legal action regardless of how small - if deemed that there is ANY threat to RWO potentially, we will come down hard on it.
b) Due to potential issues of copyright infringement and the potential legal implications, posting of complete articles is NOT permitted. If necessary, post a link to the article. Where appropriate, you may quote sections of the article to aid in discussion.
c) Due to potential issues of copyright infringement and potential legal implications, posting of links to "live streaming (of AFL games)" and "AFL content" sites that are not AFL endorsed is NOT permitted. Posts with such links will be removed immediately and infraction points will be issued.
d) Freedom of speech does NOT = freedom to slander
8) Racial / Sexual Discrimination / Villification
It is not acceptable for members to engage in racial and/or sexual discrimination / villification. It is not acceptable for members to use terminology in describing race or gender in a derogatory manner. Discussing and disputing the views and opinions of other posters is acceptable. Personally vilifying or abusing others for having certain characteristics, or being a member of a certain group (or because you think they're a member of a certain group), is not. This rule shall apply to any post attacking race, skin colour, ethnic background, gender and sexuality.
See also: ---> RACIAL DISCRIMINATION ACT 1975 - SECT 9
See also: ---> RACIAL DISCRIMINATION ACT 1975 - SECT 18C
9) Prohibited
Anything deemed to be of Adult content or porn related nature will be removed immediately. Selling or offering of drugs, drug references, other than those openly discussed and identified in the press, will also be removed immediately. Breaches of this rule carry the highest infraction points and may result in permanent bans on a first offence.
10) Off-topic Posts
Some members prefer to just read Swans or footy related posts. This is, after all, a SSFC website. Ensure you post threads in the appropriate forum, or they will be moved. While threads will sometimes move away from the original topic, do not deliberately drag a thread away from its original subject.
11) Attachments
Attachments within the size limit prescribed are permitted. However, due to costs associated with uploads/downloads, if you wish to attach a number of files within a thread, or feel that the quality of the attachment is compromised by the file size restrictions, you may wish to use external hosting providers and link to the files there.
12) Moderator / Administrator Group
The Moderator / Administrator group reserve the right to delete or move threads / posts as well as remove signatures / avatars as necessary according to the rules of the RWO forum.
13) Final decisions
Any decisions made around the intepretation of the rules above are entirely at the discretion of the site administrators. Such decisions are final.
14) Vistitors from other sites
You are most welcome to join in discussions on RWO, but remember, you are a GUEST on our site. Abide by the RWO Forum Rules or we WILL ban you.
15) Guidelines regarding Visitors to RWO for RWO members.
Be nice, not all visitors are trolls.a) If they annoy you, ignore them. They want a reaction. Don't give them one.
b) If they are abusive, report them. We will consider banning them. Don't stoop to their level.Bottom line
You are a guest on RWO - You are expected to play by the rules of the house.
Last Update: ScottH, June 22nd, 2008 (Included Spouses/partners in Rule 6)
Last Update: Frog, August 16th, 2010 (Added rule 7c)
Last update: ScottH July 17th, 2011 (Added Rule 7d)
Tweet
© RedAndWhiteOnline.com 2003-
Powered by vBulletin® Version 6.0.6
Copyright © 2025 MH Sub I, LLC dba vBulletin. All rights reserved.
Copyright © 2025 MH Sub I, LLC dba vBulletin. All rights reserved.
All times are GMT+10. This page was generated at 09:17 PM.
Comment