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  • swanspant12
    On the Rookie List
    • Oct 2009
    • 593

    2016 Team

    So now we finally know that Goodesy and Shawy have retired, how does our team shape up for next year? With our rubbish trading restrictions we will be limited in what we can do this year and I'm not even sure what we are entitled to do given the restrictions in place. Certainly our defence and small forward is an area we are lacking in moving forward as well as our ruckstocks.

    Luenberger is apparently a target. Massive if we can get him and he can stay injury free. I'd also be going very hard at Kreuzer who is a restricted free agent.

    I'd also be going extremely hard at getting Bennell to the club. Absolute class footballer, forget the off-field, if we lose Jetta and Goodes we will need an injection of pace. Get it done kinnear!!! Would be an absolute steal. Paul Seedsman from Collingwood is another half back flanker who has some potential to be a quality half back/wingman.

    Jetta off aswell if the rumours are true.

    My trading/free agency movements:


    Pick 14 and Bird for Bennell.
    Kreuzer/Luenberger free agency.
    Courtenay Dempsey free agent
    Seedsman PSD.


    2016 Team:

    B: Smith Richards Dempsey


    HB: Laidler Grundy Rampe


    C: Bennell Kennedy Jack


    HF: Rose Tippett Reid


    F: Heeney Franklin Rohan


    FOL: Luenberger/Kruezer Parker Hannebery


    I/C: Heeney McVeigh Lloyd Mitchell


    Depth: Pyke, Alir Alir, Jones, B. Jack, Dempsey, Seedsman, Towers, Derickx, Robinson, Nankervis, Richards.


    Thoughts?
    LRT. Lord Roberts-Thompson. He may look like the Munster, but looks can be deceiving.


    2012 Bloods Premiers.
  • Mug Punter
    On the Rookie List
    • Nov 2009
    • 3325

    #2
    Originally posted by swanspant12
    So now we finally know that Goodesy and Shawy have retired, how does our team shape up for next year? With our rubbish trading restrictions we will be limited in what we can do this year and I'm not even sure what we are entitled to do given the restrictions in place. Certainly our defence and small forward is an area we are lacking in moving forward as well as our ruckstocks.

    Luenberger is apparently a target. Massive if we can get him and he can stay injury free. I'd also be going very hard at Kreuzer who is a restricted free agent.

    I'd also be going extremely hard at getting Bennell to the club. Absolute class footballer, forget the off-field, if we lose Jetta and Goodes we will need an injection of pace. Get it done kinnear!!! Would be an absolute steal. Paul Seedsman from Collingwood is another half back flanker who has some potential to be a quality half back/wingman.

    Jetta off aswell if the rumours are true.

    My trading/free agency movements:


    Pick 14 and Bird for Bennell.
    Kreuzer/Luenberger free agency.
    Courtenay Dempsey free agent
    Seedsman PSD.


    2016 Team:

    B: Smith Richards Dempsey


    HB: Laidler Grundy Rampe


    C: Bennell Kennedy Jack


    HF: Rose Tippett Reid


    F: Heeney Franklin Rohan


    FOL: Luenberger/Kruezer Parker Hannebery


    I/C: Heeney McVeigh Lloyd Mitchell


    Depth: Pyke, Alir Alir, Jones, B. Jack, Dempsey, Seedsman, Towers, Derickx, Robinson, Nankervis, Richards.


    Thoughts?
    Some ambitious trades there I must say.....

    I'm going to be a doomsayer and predict Buddy will not play in 2016 and possibly never again. I have absolutely no inside knowledge, I just fear this is very very serious and he may never play again......

    I think we only have enough coin to bring in a replacement for Jetta who will leave and that we will try and get a Ruckman - it will reflect the fact we need to plan for Tippo being at FF all season and also the fact that Pyke will be at the end of his use by date (all time Swans legend that he is)

    My team...

    B: Smith Richards Jones


    HB: Laidler Grundy Rampe


    C: McVeigh Kennedy Jack


    HF: Heeney Reid Harry


    F: McGlynn Tippett Rohan


    FOL: New #1 Ruckman Parker Hannebery


    I/C: Lloyd Mitchell Towers Nankervis


    Depth: Pyke, B. Jack, Naismith, Richards, Hewett, Rose, Mills

    Could be a very tough year but one where we will show our character

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    • 6'2, 220, 4.53
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Aug 2015
      • 77

      #3
      Danny Wilder expressed the opinion that Buddy may not play again.

      I hope that is not the case. It would be a disaster for both the Swans and Franklin.

      I'm wondering if the decision to dump Liam Pickering for Jacinta's manager has been the wrong one. I think Pickering would have been excellent in this situation.

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      • dimelb
        pr. dim-melb; m not f
        • Jun 2003
        • 6889

        #4
        Originally posted by Mug Punter
        Some ambitious trades there I must say.....

        I'm going to be a doomsayer and predict Buddy will not play in 2016 and possibly never again. I have absolutely no inside knowledge, I just fear this is very very serious and he may never play again......

        I think we only have enough coin to bring in a replacement for Jetta who will leave and that we will try and get a Ruckman - it will reflect the fact we need to plan for Tippo being at FF all season and also the fact that Pyke will be at the end of his use by date (all time Swans legend that he is)

        My team...

        B: Smith Richards Jones


        HB: Laidler Grundy Rampe


        C: McVeigh Kennedy Jack


        HF: Heeney Reid Harry


        F: McGlynn Tippett Rohan


        FOL: New #1 Ruckman Parker Hannebery


        I/C: Lloyd Mitchell Towers Nankervis


        Depth: Pyke, B. Jack, Naismith, Richards, Hewett, Rose, Mills

        Could be a very tough year but one where we will show our character

        I think I'd go largely with this team but I'd put Brandon at forward pocket instead of Ben - more pace, solid tackler, better kick - and Nankervis to depth with Rose in the side.
        He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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        • mcs
          Travelling Swannie!!
          • Jul 2007
          • 8174

          #5
          Originally posted by 6'2, 220, 4.53
          Danny Wilder expressed the opinion that Buddy may not play again.

          I hope that is not the case. It would be a disaster for both the Swans and Franklin.

          I'm wondering if the decision to dump Liam Pickering for Jacinta's manager has been the wrong one. I think Pickering would have been excellent in this situation.
          Danny wiedler is an nrl gossip mongrel at best - ie not fit to tie the shoelace of a decent journalist. You need to apply a salt mine worth of salt to anything he comes out with.
          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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          • Swansinger
            Senior Player
            • Mar 2003
            • 1099

            #6
            I'm not confident we will even make the finals. That is more realistic than pessimistic.

            I don't know enough about the "kids" knocking on the door , but I would guess there will be a few gems amongst them : we always seem to find a few good 'uns to inherit the mantle of the Kellys , Kirks and Boltons.

            It would , however , be a mistake to blood too many youngsters all at once. Sure , they may get "experience" , but that could be damaging if it includes the experience of losing too often. As Paul Roos said , the Swans can never afford to "bottom out".

            What of the current experienced players ? Is Birdy really gone ? Is Pykey going to give it away ? With Derickx on less than 20 games after five years,will he stay with us ? Nank may be a good player one day , but he looks slow . Our ruck stocks are not looking too good.

            I suspect that the brilliant , lightning-quick , Gary Rohan is going to be one of those players who will be forever hampered by frequent injury. If anything , he is too brave for his own good.
            Sam Reid may be similarly cursed.

            Hey - anybody want to take a punt on Stevie J ? Naahh - having to listen to that voice would drive me bonkers !
            Anyway , he'll stay in Victoria.

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            • RogueSwan
              McVeigh for Brownlow
              • Apr 2003
              • 4602

              #7
              Originally posted by Swansinger
              ...Hey - anybody want to take a punt on Stevie J ? Naahh - having to listen to that voice would drive me bonkers !
              Anyway , he'll stay in Victoria.
              I was thinking about that option during the game but ... nah, it smacks of desperation, tyring to buy a premiership and all that. With KJ and Parker back we are significantly better and Kizza seemed to getting back to his best form just before his injury.
              "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8570

                #8
                Originally posted by swanspant12
                So now we finally know that Goodesy and Shawy have retired, how does our team shape up for next year? With our rubbish trading restrictions we will be limited in what we can do this year and I'm not even sure what we are entitled to do given the restrictions in place. Certainly our defence and small forward is an area we are lacking in moving forward as well as our ruckstocks.

                Luenberger is apparently a target. Massive if we can get him and he can stay injury free. I'd also be going very hard at Kreuzer who is a restricted free agent.

                I'd also be going extremely hard at getting Bennell to the club. Absolute class footballer, forget the off-field, if we lose Jetta and Goodes we will need an injection of pace. Get it done kinnear!!! Would be an absolute steal. Paul Seedsman from Collingwood is another half back flanker who has some potential to be a quality half back/wingman.

                Jetta off aswell if the rumours are true.

                My trading/free agency movements:


                Pick 14 and Bird for Bennell.
                Kreuzer/Luenberger free agency.
                Courtenay Dempsey free agent
                Seedsman PSD.


                2016 Team:

                B: Smith Richards Dempsey


                HB: Laidler Grundy Rampe


                C: Bennell Kennedy Jack


                HF: Rose Tippett Reid


                F: Heeney Franklin Rohan


                FOL: Luenberger/Kruezer Parker Hannebery


                I/C: Heeney McVeigh Lloyd Mitchell


                Depth: Pyke, Alir Alir, Jones, B. Jack, Dempsey, Seedsman, Towers, Derickx, Robinson, Nankervis, Richards.


                Thoughts?
                Very optimistic! Is Benny leaving too?

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                • mcs
                  Travelling Swannie!!
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 8174

                  #9
                  Originally posted by swanspant12
                  So now we finally know that Goodesy and Shawy have retired, how does our team shape up for next year? With our rubbish trading restrictions we will be limited in what we can do this year and I'm not even sure what we are entitled to do given the restrictions in place. Certainly our defence and small forward is an area we are lacking in moving forward as well as our ruckstocks.

                  Luenberger is apparently a target. Massive if we can get him and he can stay injury free. I'd also be going very hard at Kreuzer who is a restricted free agent.

                  I'd also be going extremely hard at getting Bennell to the club. Absolute class footballer, forget the off-field, if we lose Jetta and Goodes we will need an injection of pace. Get it done kinnear!!! Would be an absolute steal. Paul Seedsman from Collingwood is another half back flanker who has some potential to be a quality half back/wingman.

                  Jetta off aswell if the rumours are true.

                  My trading/free agency movements:


                  Pick 14 and Bird for Bennell.
                  Kreuzer/Luenberger free agency.
                  Courtenay Dempsey free agent
                  Seedsman PSD.


                  2016 Team:

                  B: Smith Richards Dempsey


                  HB: Laidler Grundy Rampe


                  C: Bennell Kennedy Jack


                  HF: Rose Tippett Reid


                  F: Heeney Franklin Rohan


                  FOL: Luenberger/Kruezer Parker Hannebery


                  I/C: Heeney McVeigh Lloyd Mitchell


                  Depth: Pyke, Alir Alir, Jones, B. Jack, Dempsey, Seedsman, Towers, Derickx, Robinson, Nankervis, Richards.


                  Thoughts?
                  How would we pay for Mills under your proposal?
                  "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                  • Captain
                    Captain of the Side
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 3602

                    #10
                    My team based on getting Luenberger and losing Jetta:

                    Smith Grundy Richards
                    Laidler Reid Rampe
                    Hannebery Kennedy Rohan
                    McVeigh Franklin Henney
                    Mitchell Tippett McGlynn
                    Luenberger Parker Jack
                    Lloyd Cunningham Bird Towers

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      #11
                      Here's a possibility without anyone being traded in and Jetta and Bird both out.

                      Smith Grundy Laidler
                      Rohan Richards Rampe
                      Parker Hanners McVeigh
                      Naismith Kennedy Mitchell
                      Reid Franklin Towers
                      Heeney Tippett K Jack
                      Cunningham Jones Hewett Mills

                      Emergencies: Lloyd, Newman, McGlynn

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                      • Markus26
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 147

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        Here's a possibility without anyone being traded in and Jetta and Bird both out.

                        Smith Grundy Laidler
                        Rohan Richards Rampe
                        Parker Hanners McVeigh
                        Naismith Kennedy Mitchell
                        Reid Franklin Towers
                        Heeney Tippett K Jack
                        Cunningham Jones Hewett Mills

                        Emergencies: Lloyd, Newman, McGlynn
                        That is a tasty line-up! I would like to add Dunks Jr. to that list but he still hasn't nominated yet, has he? If we hold on to Marsh and Aliir, those boys would have to debut you would think at some stage. I would expect Rose to grab a couple more games along with X too.

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                        • longmile
                          Crumber
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 3372

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ludwig
                          Here's a possibility without anyone being traded in and Jetta and Bird both out.

                          Smith Grundy Laidler
                          Rohan Richards Rampe
                          Parker Hanners McVeigh
                          Naismith Kennedy Mitchell
                          Reid Franklin Towers
                          Heeney Tippett K Jack
                          Cunningham Jones Hewett Mills

                          Emergencies: Lloyd, Newman, McGlynn
                          That's a very young team.
                          I think with our depth issues this year they might hold on to Bird for one more year

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                          • aguy
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 1324

                            #14
                            Here is my team for next year

                            Rampe Richards Smith
                            Jones Grundy Mcveigh
                            Rohan Mitchell Cunningham
                            Kennedy Leuenberger Hannebery
                            Parker Reid Jack
                            Franklin Tippett Heeney

                            Interchange Towers B Jack Lloyd Laidler

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                            • RogueSwan
                              McVeigh for Brownlow
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 4602

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              Here's a possibility without anyone being traded in and Jetta and Bird both out.

                              Smith Grundy Laidler
                              Rohan Richards Rampe
                              Parker Hanners McVeigh
                              Naismith Kennedy Mitchell
                              Reid Franklin Towers
                              Heeney Tippett K Jack
                              Cunningham Jones Hewett Mills

                              Emergencies: Lloyd, Newman, McGlynn
                              I think we have seen that the Rooster is not as comfortable in the back half. He is better off causing chaos around the forward 50.

                              Originally posted by Markus26
                              ... If we hold on to Marsh and Aliir, those boys would have to debut you would think at some stage. I would expect Rose to grab a couple more games along with X too.
                              I am hoping for an Aliir break out at some time this year. Watching the 2012 DVD reminded me of how much we needed AJ (or similar in this team). Rampe is being asked to play on the oppositions third tall when we should be getting him back to the kicking and tackling, which made us sit up,of his first season. Laids has become a very good team player but Johnson was/is just that something a little bit special. Hopefully he can pull a Menzel and one day, run on with the Seniors.
                              I hope we aren't looking at a ruckman, we should be looking for a backman. I believe Reg has had one of his best seasons but Teddy has dropped off. I don't mind that Ted is playing on next year but it would be good if we could provide him with an understudy.

                              Originally posted by longmile
                              That's a very young team.
                              I think with our depth issues this year they might hold on to Bird for one more year
                              I really like Bird and hope he can stay with Swans but even with Kizza and Parker out, and Heeney with a sore knee, he didn't get a run. Hopefully next year Lloyd gets over his second year blues and lives up to the RWO hype :-)

                              The other thing we could struggle with is the scrapping of the sub and the reduced interchanges. Does this benefit or hurt us? Does Bird, who was universally considered (if the RWO is the universe (and who am I to say it isn't)) one paced going to be more valuable or less so? Will two rucks become fashionable with one resting either forward or back? This could explain the media saying we are chasing Leuenberger? Myke obviously can't run out a game or take strong contested marks like he used to and the Footy Dept are comfortable relying on Naismith yet. A Tippo/Leuenberger ruck combo could be very good, potentially, if they can both stay on the field at the right end of the season.

                              backs: Smith --- Reg --- Laidler,
                              Rampe --- Richards --- Aliir/X/Davis --- Jones
                              midfield: McVeigh --- Kennedy --- Naismith --- Mitchell --- Parker --- K.Jack
                              forwards: Reid --- Franklin --- Heeney
                              Tippo --- Rohan

                              Bench/Depth: "someone we trade in", Lloyd, Cunningham, Towers, McGlynn/B.Jack (both playing for the same spot and right now I would give it to BJ)
                              "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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