The GWS Academy is a farce

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  • The Big Cat
    On the veteran's list
    • Apr 2006
    • 2355

    The GWS Academy is a farce

    All four draftees from the GWS Academy come from the Riverina which is a football area anyway. This GWS academy area does not add to the AFL talent pool, it merely funnels existing talent into the Giants. (This area was so highly regarded by the old VFL that it was the South Melbourne country recruiting zone and given equal status to the La trobe Valley, Ballarat, Bendigo, Sunraysia, Western Victoria, etc!)
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  • Reggi
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 2718

    #2
    It is ludicrous. No academies south of the barassi line
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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      #3
      When GWS start playing finals (2016) at Collingwood's expense, you know that fatso/multichins will tap Gill on the shoulder and get the Riverina back to non academy status.

      The VFL will then take a chunk of our area and give it to GWS.

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      • Mug Punter
        On the Rookie List
        • Nov 2009
        • 3325

        #4
        Originally posted by 707
        When GWS start playing finals (2016) at Collingwood's expense, you know that fatso/multichins will tap Gill on the shoulder and get the Riverina back to non academy status.

        The VFL will then take a chunk of our area and give it to GWS.
        They have academy qualifies kids for 2017 who are already in elite private school football programmes in Melbourne, how the hell does that work?

        And that is the problem, perhaps GWS should start actually developing their territory.

        ACT and the West of Sydney should be more than enough for that mob. Illawara tops. No way should they be rewarded for their negligence of Western Sydney

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16764

          #5
          Although the Riverina is thought of as a traditional AFL recruiting zone, the actual output from the region in the last decade has been very modest (prior to the Giants' academy). So there is evidence that it needed an injection of development resources.

          I do think that players who choose to enter one of the mainstream development paths- ie the football schools in Vic, WA and SA together with participation in the TAC Cup or equivalent- shouldn't be available as academy selections. The intention of the academies, and specifically the priority access of the host clubs, is to encourage those clubs to invest resources (time as well as money) to create development infrastructures that the players wouldn't otherwise have access to, and hence enable those players to develop at equivalent rate to their peers in the more traditional football states. If those players want to move to take advantage of the Victorian private schools and TAC Cup that's fine, but their development can no longer be attributed to the academy programmes, and I don't think they should be eligible as priority access selections.

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          • annew
            Senior Player
            • Mar 2006
            • 2164

            #6
            Originally posted by liz
            Although the Riverina is thought of as a traditional AFL recruiting zone, the actual output from the region in the last decade has been very modest (prior to the Giants' academy). So there is evidence that it needed an injection of development resources.

            I do think that players who choose to enter one of the mainstream development paths- ie the football schools in Vic, WA and SA together with participation in the TAC Cup or equivalent- shouldn't be available as academy selections. The intention of the academies, and specifically the priority access of the host clubs, is to encourage those clubs to invest resources (time as well as money) to create development infrastructures that the players wouldn't otherwise have access to, and hence enable those players to develop at equivalent rate to their peers in the more traditional football states. If those players want to move to take advantage of the Victorian private schools and TAC Cup that's fine, but their development can no longer be attributed to the academy programmes, and I don't think they should be eligible as priority access selections.
            Well said but no one cares cos they are too busy worrying about punishing swans.

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            • unconfuseme
              Regular in the Side
              • Jan 2009
              • 681

              #7
              It is a joke that they were handed the Swans' traditional zone, and through their gross mismanagement, have failed to benefit!

              Name GWS's inaugural Academy Member ...?

              That's right, it was none other than Turvey Park's own HARRY CUNNINGHAM ... right there under their nose and they passed on him anyway!!!

              DOH!

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              • 111431
                Regular in the Side
                • Sep 2010
                • 697

                #8
                The fact that the Lions and GWS were able to secure so many picks from their academies calls into question the ROI on our academy. Yes we got Mills and last yr Heeney (which are both great selections) but it does not bode well for us if the cupboard looks bare for the future. I know GWS have the Riverina but what is Brisbane doing to be able to develop its kids that we are not ? Our academy has operated for quite a few yrs but our pickings have been relatively slim except for 2 above and tweety Bird.

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                • Primmy
                  Proud Tragic Swan
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 5970

                  #9
                  I know a 10 yo in the Swans academy and he will be great. In another 8 years.
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                  • 111431
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 697

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Primmy
                    I know a 10 yo in the Swans academy and he will be great. In another 8 years.
                    a bit like the builder asking the apprentice to buy a 'long weight'

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                    • Doctor
                      Bay 29
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 2757

                      #11
                      The AFL cannot afford for GWS not to work, so they need to give them that zone to ensure that they keep the production line humming along. What it might do is stop them losing players back to Victoria like they have done this year, and like Brisbane have been doing. Our own Academy is still fairly new, let's not forget. If I recall correctly, the first crop of kids who started at U10s are only U16s this year, so there's still plenty of time before we really see the benefits of it.
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                      • Levii3
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 655

                        #12
                        Kennedy honestly was in the Academy for ONE year there should be a minimum 3 years at the academy rule or something this is ludicrous.. We spend five six years on players get them away from other codes

                        Anyone hear murmurs about GWS moving to Canberra in five years time if they don't have enough impact in Western sydney?

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          #13
                          Keeping nsw players in nsw is a good thing.

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                          • Conor_Dillon
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 1224

                            #14
                            Originally posted by barry
                            Keeping nsw players in nsw is a good thing.
                            Exactly...kids and parents of kids in other zones of GWS' Academy might see these results and be more inclined to want to join.
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                            • jono2707
                              Goes up to 11
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 3326

                              #15
                              Originally posted by barry
                              Keeping nsw players in nsw is a good thing.
                              GWS's "Academy" selections were Riverina boys - Melbourne is closer to home for them.

                              Whilst I love seeing Riverina lads made good (being originally from there myself), that GWS can capture these guys through an 'Academy' is a farce and should be called out as such.

                              When they produce a Western Suburbs lad, be it Anglo, indigenous, Muslim, islander, Asian or whatever, that will be a real win for their Academy and when they'll take a decent step towards acceptance from the community they're meant to represent. Until then they're an 'Academy' in name only.

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