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  • Primmy
    Proud Tragic Swan
    • Apr 2008
    • 5970

    Ssshhhh Don't mention the War, but

    The sounds of silence.....have you noticed that for once the Swans are not the centre of media speculation and inaccurate reporting at this time of the year? Isn't it lovely. Peace and Quiet..
    If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood
  • Markus26
    On the Rookie List
    • Apr 2015
    • 147

    #2
    Agreed! It is refreshing.

    Can't help but feel a little sorry for the Bombers. It's a crippling consequence for a very bad decision. The process has been far too drawn out for my liking. Rip the band-aid off quickly, impose the sanction and let the club recover.

    In other news, the Magpie leaders (Swan and Cloke) are proving that Collingwood have a YES PLEASE TO D***HEADS POLICY. I'm still shaking my head over how inappropriate their actions were, especially as role models to impressionable teenagers. Eddie's response was typical. Laugh it off when it comes to Pies' indiscretions.

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    • Conor_Dillon
      On the Rookie List
      • Jun 2013
      • 1224

      #3
      Was going to say 'touch wood' but it didn't seem appropriate after Markus' post !
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      • AnnieH
        RWOs Black Sheep
        • Aug 2006
        • 11332

        #4
        Well, we're still being punished for something we didn't do.
        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
        Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          #5
          Originally posted by Markus26
          Agreed!
          In other news, the Magpie leaders (Swan and Cloke) are proving that Collingwood have a YES PLEASE TO D***HEADS POLICY. I'm still shaking my head over how inappropriate their actions were, especially as role models to impressionable teenagers. Eddie's response was typical. Laugh it off when it comes to Pies' indiscretions.
          I heard the AFL were thinking of placing a 2 year tattoo ban on Collingwood players, but Eddie McGuire protested saying that it was inconsistent with the Dustin Martin case, and added that he thought Richmond players should be banned from using chopsticks for 2 years, especially during games (pre-season games excepted, since this is where the AFL like to introduce new ideas).

          In the end, Malcolm Turnbull intervened saying the AFL couldn't impose the tattoo ban because it might be just enough to tip the Australian economy into recession, like the chopstick that broke the Tiger's back. .

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          • RogueSwan
            McVeigh for Brownlow
            • Apr 2003
            • 4602

            #6
            Originally posted by Ludwig
            .... In the end, Malcolm Turnbull intervened saying the AFL couldn't impose the tattoo ban because it might be just enough to tip the Australian economy into recession, like the chopstick that broke the Tiger's back. .
            Is that because the big tattoo corporations are not paying tax?
            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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            • stevoswan
              Veterans List
              • Sep 2014
              • 8543

              #7
              Yes, they were stupid, as AFL players.....but the thing which struck me most from the whole episode was the complete hypocrisy of the overall reactions of most....Consider this: Man uploads 'revenge porn'= NAUGHTY MAN!!!......Women uploads 'revenge porn'= NAUGHTY MAN!!! Fevola gets pillored, Swan and Cloke get pillored, it makes no sense.

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8543

                #8
                I'll rephrase that last sentence. Fevola gets pillored, rightly as the perpetrator, Swan and Cloke get pillored, as the victims, no mention of the perpetrators, it makes no sense.

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                • Meg
                  Go Swannies!
                  Site Admin
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 4828

                  #9
                  Actually I don't think Fevola did get pilloried (or at least nowhere near the extent to which he should have been). It was the young woman in the photo, who could clearly be seen in the photo to be unhappy about the photo being taken and not only had not given her approval for the photo but asked for it to be deleted - who was humiliated.

                  I do agree that whoever released the photos of Swan and Cloke acted despicably. On the other hand, Swan and Cloke actually took their own photos and willingly sent them to the recipients. That doesn't excuse the release of the photos - but to compare it to the Fevola incident is inappropriate.

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                  • wolftone57
                    Veterans List
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 5835

                    #10
                    Originally posted by stevoswan
                    Yes, they were stupid, as AFL players.....but the thing which struck me most from the whole episode was the complete hypocrisy of the overall reactions of most....Consider this: Man uploads 'revenge porn'= NAUGHTY MAN!!!......Women uploads 'revenge porn'= NAUGHTY MAN!!! Fevola gets pillored, Swan and Cloke get pillored, it makes no sense.
                    If they weren't AFL players nobody would care. Storm in a tea cup. Not ideal but who hasn't posted something on social media that they haven't later regretted.

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                    • wolftone57
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 5835

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Meg
                      Actually I don't think Fevola did get pilloried (or at least nowhere near the extent to which he should have been). It was the young woman in the photo, who could clearly be seen in the photo to be unhappy about the photo being taken and not only had not given her approval for the photo but asked for it to be deleted - who was humiliated.

                      I do agree that whoever released the photos of Swan and Cloke acted despicably. On the other hand, Swan and Cloke actually took their own photos and willingly sent them to the recipients. That doesn't excuse the release of the photos - but to compare it to the Fevola incident is inappropriate.

                      I agree it is inappropriate to compare this to Fevola. but there is one point I'd like to make. Whether despicable or not what the person did was quite legal. Once you send an image to another person they can do what they like with that image. You have by sending it to them given your permission for them to use it in any way they wish. swan and Cloke are the idiots here and of course to blame in their own unveiling LOL

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                      • Doctor
                        Bay 29
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 2757

                        #12
                        Back to Primmy's original point, it's the first time in 2-3 years that we haven't been front and centre of hype, speculation and general hooplah at this time of year. The club, the coaching staff and the players must be loving it. The quiet resolution of the Parker deal only helps to keep us out of the press. Love it.
                        Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                        • MomentByMoment
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 60

                          #13
                          Yes - I am feeling the peace and I'm sure the club is as well.

                          We can go back to what we do best - developing our own brand of football and the culture that supports it.

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                          • chammond
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1368

                            #14
                            Originally posted by wolftone57
                            I agree it is inappropriate to compare this to Fevola. but there is one point I'd like to make. Whether despicable or not what the person did was quite legal. Once you send an image to another person they can do what they like with that image. You have by sending it to them given your permission for them to use it in any way they wish. swan and Cloke are the idiots here and of course to blame in their own unveiling LOL
                            No, that's not correct. There are specific laws in South Australia and Victoria which make it an offence to publish or post invasive or intimate pictures without the consent of the person depicted. Sending the pics does not constitute consent-to-publish in these circumstances. There is no equivalent law in NSW, but if it was deemed to be "revenge porn" it might well come under the Crimes Act anyway.

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                            • wolftone57
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 5835

                              #15
                              Originally posted by chammond
                              No, that's not correct. There are specific laws in South Australia and Victoria which make it an offence to publish or post invasive or intimate pictures without the consent of the person depicted. Sending the pics does not constitute consent-to-publish in these circumstances. There is no equivalent law in NSW, but if it was deemed to be "revenge porn" it might well come under the Crimes Act anyway.
                              Actually there is no 'revenge Porn' legislation in any state of Australia. It does not fall under the 'Crimes Act' and does not fall under the 'media and Communications' Act either. This is a fact that was published recently and is a hot topic as we speak. There is a push to make 'revenge Porn' illegal and punishable by long prison terms and so it should be. It would be placed under the Media and Communications act like 'child Porn' and other despicable communications devices.

                              As to local laws regarding Media and Communications I was not aware that they even existed. I was under the impression this was a Federal legal responsibility not state. Are you confusing the law of publishing an image garnered illegally or nefariously. In other words paparazzi using images of people in the public eye without permission. Does this actually fall under that law? I'm not certain it does because they have not published the image they have offered it to a publisher. Since the Howard and then Rudd governments introduced a whole heap of legislation covering the internet but nothing covering this subject. I have just looked up the law in Victoria and you are right;

                              These laws also apply to pics of adults, but they are a bit different. It is illegal to send on or share a sexy pic of someone over 18 unless they agreed to you sending or sharing it.

                              Sending, posting or sharing a sexy pic of someone else who is over 18 will break the law of distributing an intimate image if they have not agreed to you sharing it.

                              The law is a bit different for pics of adults. If the person in the pic is over 18, it is illegal to send it on or share it with anyone else if they did not agree to you sharing it.


                              Apparently the law changed in Victoria in 2013. Then was updated in 2015. Thank you for your insight. The girls who gave the pics to the publisher are liable and can be punished by up to 2 years gaol. The publisher receives no penalty.

                              Anyway we are in the news for good reasons not because of the insidious nastiness of the AFL. funny how Fitzpatrick is a board member of the corporation who runs ANZ.

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