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Is that Matt Wilson the academy player from last year we and everyone else passed on in the draft?
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Best players H.Marsh J.Foote N.Newman M.Wilson A.Davis J.DawsonComment
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Interesting that the Brisbane reserves report had the following for our best players:
Wilson, Hiscox, Foote, Marsh, Newman, Rose
McGlynn didn't make either list.
I also found the following sentence in their report noteworthy:
'Josh McGuiness provided some response to Sydney?s speedsters, whilst Archie Smith earned praise with his work in the ruck, helping the Lions win the hitouts 42-23'
mainly because of the word 'speedsters' and the fact that we must have done a lot to counter their dominance in hitouts.Comment
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It appears Matt Wilson is one of those 'speedsters': North Shore Young Guns and the Swans Academy - Club News | North ShoreComment
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Yep but I'm happy enough with Papley's efforts to date
I had periods of silence today whilst three-chins was commentating but one thing they did mention was that we only just squeezed young Tom into the cap.
In bringing players in to the rookie list I still think we have to be absolutely ruthless in not giving list slots away locally but where all things are equal surely you'd go with a local kid, I was hoping at least one of the academy boys would be rookie listed but he didn't seem to be the most prominent, maybe he is just a late bloomer. Galloway was a good choice I think because as a ruckman he'll need some time, plus he's massive. Sam Murray was another really left field rookie spot but I'll back our rookie programComment
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Is that consecutive BOGs for Marsh? After being our best NEAFL player last year too? I really hope that if he keeps doing all that is asked of him, which I infer he must be from his repeated selection as best Swans NEAFL player, he eventually gets his opportunity to prove himself in the seniors.All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)
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Is March still back on the rookie list or did we upgrade him?
Listening to the AFL commentary yesterday with Healy talking about Papley being upgraded it sounded like we only just had enough money in the salary to upgrade Papley to the senior list.
I'm just wondering whether the cupboard is literally bare cap wise and that we budgeted for upgrading one player through the year and one player only. If that is the case then Harry and Nic may well have to wait until the end of the year and be upgraded in 2017.
It would be a shame but if that is our financial situation then so be it.Comment
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I was thinking about this preseason.
The consensus thought seems to be that Healy is correct from the point of view that we are running with a 38 player senior list because we don't have enough salary cap to upgrade any rookies under the nominated rookie rules.
However we can use the long term injury list to upgrade rookies temporarily while a senior listed player is injured. At the moment we have Rohan on the long term injured list as well as Alex Johnson ( not sure if they've actually formalised that).
Marsh is indeed on the rookie list this year. I confirmed it with the club because the website still had him listed on the senior list. Marsh and Newman are the only rookies I see as possible upgrades this yearComment
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I guess we just don't know the financial situation and how much it plays out. I don't think that having 38 on the senior list as opposed to 40 has really hurt us at all, as you usually have a few players on the LTIL
If Harry does miss out this year that would be a shame but I wouldn't think a full year paying his dues and an upgrade for next year, ready to push for round 1, 2017 would hurt.
Newman and Marsh do seem the only realistic upgrades at this stage. It will create an interesting situation re the senior list. Benny and Ted would seem to be heading for retirement and Tom Dx would surely be de-listed as you'd also think sadly would Alex.
With Papley also being upgraded that means we'd still only be net -1 so we'd need to find another two slots as we need to draft a minimum of three players. Maybe we'd only upgrade one of Nic and Harry but we'd be turning over at least one more player. I'd think if X isn't playing senior football this year he'd be very vulnerable and we'd probably be tempted to delist AA and possibly re-draft him as a rookie as with Harry. Toby and Jack are also playing for their careers this year.
It's a tough school at the SwansLast edited by Mug Punter; 4 April 2016, 09:04 PM.Comment
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I'm sure it is the case that we are running close to the limit. We have an extra 2 rookies on the list as well, which don't cost too much, but still add something. We may drop a rookie next year and take the list down to 45.
The comment regarding drafting Papley was whether we had enough cap space to carry 46 players.
Unless there's some incredible optimism over Talia's return, we should put him on the LTIL. I believe Rohan gets off the list at round 5 and may be ready for the ressies, then we could move Papley to take Talia's place until he's ready to return. We still will have AJ to put on the injury list if need be.Comment
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Alex Johnson is already on LTI as per Swans statement of 22 March.
Johnson placed on long term injury list - sydneyswans.com.auComment
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Also, I don't think the salary cap (formally referred to as 'Total Player Payments') includes the cost of rookies, that is I think the salary cap only refers to the senior list salary payments (and that is the reason the Swans run with the minimum size senior list of 38 players). Wording below is from Schedule C Sn 4 (g) of the current collective agreement with the players' association.
"Football payments to a Rookie
i)while on the Rookie List; and/or (ii) while on the Primary List to replace a long term injured Player, shall not be included in the Total Player Payments of an AFL Club..."
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