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  • Triple B
    Formerly 'BBB'
    • Feb 2003
    • 6999

    #16
    Originally posted by Maltopia
    On the other hand, I have been able to watch the Swans play for free using the app....
    Agree, very handy to be able to watch any game live whilst out and about. Particularly handy when you want to watch the twilight game while commuting to a night game...
    Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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    • Maltopia
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2016
      • 1556

      #17
      Originally posted by dimelb
      And insofar as that's true, that's exactly the problem. Their priority should be the quality of the game: if that's right, any other considerations should fall into place.
      They are a massive business, so they will have lots of things contributing to that overall profit goal - providing a mostly even competition, keeping the game clean of drugs and thuggery on the field (e.g., the changes to the MRP and penalties in the last decade to offset parents not wanting their kids being involved in a game with lots of biffo and head hits), growing particular markets, game day experience, media/promotion etc.

      Ultimately, their board has made a decision that the financial benefits from the gambling association outweighs the loss or dissatisfaction of fans who disagree with gambling.

      I have three kids who watch the footy on TV with me, and I make a point of reminding them every now and then that gambling is high risk as the odds are stacked in favour of the house. My father was a gambling addict (horses at the TAB) and that really impacted my family when I was growing up, e.g., having a debt collector (not from gambling, but from business bills not paid due to gambling) come around when my parents weren't home and telling me my parents were going to go to jail, having to move house constantly as my parents had to keep moving to get a fresh start etc. I don't morally support the AFL being so in bed with the gambling side of things at all. I just accept that it isn't going to go away and will take advantage of the betting app providing the free broadcasts.

      Someone posted the availability of the free broadcasts on the OzBargain website last week, so they will have thousands of new non-betters watching the games through their app now, so I don't know if it will continue next season, though I am sure some of those from the OzBargain website might be suckered into gambling through watching the games on their gambling app!

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      • Melbourne_Blood
        Senior Player
        • May 2010
        • 3312

        #18
        I enjoy a punt, but the advertising we see now is way over the top. Even annoying really. If you want to punt you most likely have an app to check the odds. Speaking of which, $3 about the Demons was ridiculous overs to beat the pies, snapped that up gladly.

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        • dimelb
          pr. dim-melb; m not f
          • Jun 2003
          • 6889

          #19
          My dad had a saying he trotted out from time to time: Never back a horse my son - it might win.
          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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          • Danzar
            I'm doing ok right now, thanks
            • Jun 2006
            • 2027

            #20
            Originally posted by Maltopia
            I'm just saying I got a benefit out of it. I am not claiming it is right or wrong. I don't want to get into an argument about what is right or wrong, but in my view, I think it is up to parents to tell their kids about gambling. They will see ads about alcohol, violence in movies, scantily clad persons when doing innocent web searches etc.

            The AFL of today, is first and foremost a business. They will talk about corporate responsibilities, sustainability, etc., but the first and foremost objective is profit.
            No argument intended, and welcome to our forum Maltopia. I'm really pleased to see a new member get straight into it.
            Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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            • Melbourne_Blood
              Senior Player
              • May 2010
              • 3312

              #21
              Just flew into Sydney and am keen to watch the hawks crowd game, anywhere near Bondi that would be showing it ??

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              • stellation
                scott names the planets
                • Sep 2003
                • 9723

                #22
                Really feel for Crows fans- imagine losing a great game because of a push in the back?
                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                • YvonneH
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 1141

                  #23
                  Originally posted by stellation
                  Really feel for Crows fans- imagine losing a great game because of a push in the back?
                  Sarcasm at its best Stellation.

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                  • Melbourne_Blood
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2010
                    • 3312

                    #24
                    Originally posted by stellation
                    Really feel for Crows fans- imagine losing a great game because of a push in the back?
                    Pretty sickening to see a close game go hawthorns way, for the third week in a row, with some fairly pathetic umpiring decisions involved.

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                    • Danzar
                      I'm doing ok right now, thanks
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 2027

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                      Pretty sickening to see a close game go hawthorns way, for the third week in a row, with some fairly pathetic umpiring decisions involved.
                      My thoughts too. Even Carey and co were a bit lost for words on how to respond to the win. While they played well, the Hawks yet again were gifted a game that was not there's.
                      Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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                      • Melbourne_Blood
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2010
                        • 3312

                        #26
                        On a side note - great to go to a game of footy ( particularly for a Melbourne blood coming into state) and have a good win. But more so great to be able to have a beer with west coast supporters after and have them be gracious in defeat. That's what footy is all about. Hawthorn supporters need to take note!!!

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                        • bloodsbigot
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 813

                          #27
                          Coincidence that when Kirk leaves Freo they turn to crap whereas the swans are looking a million bucks?

                          I think not!

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                          • chalbilto
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1139

                            #28
                            Originally posted by bloodsbigot
                            Coincidence that when Kirk leaves Freo they turn to crap whereas the swans are looking a million bucks?

                            I think not!

                            If so ,then Kirky would be the recruit of the year.

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                            • CureTheSane
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5032

                              #29
                              Originally posted by bloodsbigot
                              Coincidence that when Kirk leaves Freo they turn to crap whereas the swans are looking a million bucks?
                              Unfortunately, yes
                              I instantly start to worry that what Kirk is bringing to the table are not a deep rooted skill set and will dissipate as soon as he is no longer around to oversee them and guide them.
                              But I don;t think that either.
                              As you said, just a coincidence.
                              I dare say he would have some great stories about how poorly some aspects of the Freo training and culture hold up. Possibly the reason he jumped ship.
                              Bet his considering it his best career move to date
                              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                              • YvonneH
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 1141

                                #30
                                Instead of Eddie trying to destroy us he should have concentrated on the Giants. That can still come.
                                They just destroyed the Hawks. Boy are they going to be a monster in the coming years.

                                I will barrack for the Giants against all other teams (except us) as it would be great for NSW footy.

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