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  • Robtorq
    On the Rookie List
    • Oct 2013
    • 31

    #16
    Sorry do not agree with you about Papley. He is a great pass of the ball.

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    • undy
      Fatal error: Allowed memo
      • Mar 2003
      • 1231

      #17
      Originally posted by Crusty
      Changes....
      Not so much personnel, but the way we get the ball out of the contest.
      Seemed to me that the receiver was mainly too close to the contest. For example, JPK wins the ball and handballs to someone close by, say, Hanners. Hanners is under immediate pressure so he handballs to Mitchell. Because Mitchell is too close to the ruck, the Brisbane players could peel off and place Mitchell under pressure - resulting in the ball being slammed on the boot. If Mitchell were a meter or so further outside, there is more time and space to deliver, either to an outside runner or himself. Couple of times we did this I seem to remember McGlynn had space.
      Compare GWS and the way they busted us open a few times through running handball chains.
      I'm not talking about Diesel Williams 10-15 meter handballs picking out the runner, but just a little bit more space on the outside.
      Interested in the Board's thoughts on this.
      I agree, it was painful to watch a series of 1m passes in heavy traffic when you could see the Lions were eventually going to get a chance to stick a mitt in.
      Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way you'll be a mile away and he'll be shoeless.

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      • Luke Shannon
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Apr 2016
        • 119

        #18
        Originally posted by Robtorq
        Sorry do not agree with you about Papley. He is a great pass of the ball.
        He is a good kick. That pass to Tippett in the 2nd quarter of the Collingwood game was AFL football at its best. It was such a beatiful pass.

        Since that point his field kicking has been off, but his soccer kicking has been great. He is also missing goals from in front and missing his passes and handballs.

        His endeavour, pressure, marking and ball handling skills remain top draw.

        I'm only advocating for him to finish his great work.

        If he can rediscover the consistancy of that kick to Tippett then we have a Luke Bruest.

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        • ernie koala
          Senior Player
          • May 2007
          • 3251

          #19
          No doubt Jones will go out if Smith is fit. There aren't any other obvious options.

          But I don't like it... 'Smith and Jones' are different types of players.

          I thought Jones had a really good game. His intent to run and carry, to create out of defence, is something the Swans need, IMO.

          A change I would like to see is... Rose in for Robinson.
          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            #20
            In: Rohan.
            Out: McVeigh

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            • mcs
              Travelling Swannie!!
              • Jul 2007
              • 8166

              #21
              Originally posted by ernie koala
              No doubt Jones will go out if Smith is fit. There aren't any other obvious options.

              But I don't like it... 'Smith and Jones' are different types of players.

              I thought Jones had a really good game. His intent to run and carry, to create out of defence, is something the Swans need, IMO.

              A change I would like to see is... Rose in for Robinson.
              For all his faults, what I like about Jones is he will take a game on, even when t he pressure is on. Look at his work in the lead up to 'stretchergate' for a perfect example of what he can do.
              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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              • ernie koala
                Senior Player
                • May 2007
                • 3251

                #22
                Originally posted by barry
                In: Rohan.
                Out: McVeigh
                Good luck with that one Barry.
                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                • CureTheSane
                  Carpe Noctem
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 5032

                  #23
                  Papley stays.

                  Yesterday McVeigh played as I have come to expect him to play in recent times. Disposal and decision making is slow. The only player who I allow to make a play for the boundary line is Grundy. McVeigh's role it to move it forward fast.

                  Rohan comes back through the 2's

                  Allir probably gets another game. I thought he did enough for a debut. I would be asking more from him in the next game, otherwise face a step back.

                  Hopefully Smith and Sinclair are fit.
                  The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                  • barry
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 8499

                    #24
                    There is a theory that Brisbane was able to dominate in the midfield because they had an extra, while our extra was back in defense covering any problems with Aliir.

                    In which case its a poor strategy. Against Essendon you'd hope we roll the dice and play man on man throughout the whole ground.

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                    • snajik
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1115

                      #25
                      It was always going to be a tough ask for AA to come in and replace Teddy, but then to find Nick Smith was a non-starter, and to play in such crap conditions where the ball is like a cake of soap and the ground like an ice skating rink........that's one tough way to debut. It would be unfair to not give him a start again this Saturday. Thought he did alright considering.
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                      • Doctor J.
                        Senior Player
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 1310

                        #26
                        Originally posted by barry
                        There is a theory that Brisbane was able to dominate in the midfield because they had an extra, while our extra was back in defense covering any problems with Aliir.

                        In which case its a poor strategy. Against Essendon you'd hope we roll the dice and play man on man throughout the whole ground.
                        They always did seem to have more around the contest than us and would win clearances with ease compared to us. Your theory may have some validity to it.

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                        • Matt79
                          Bring it on!
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 3143

                          #27
                          You can mark it down that a big name player or players will be 'managed' this weekend. We 'should' beat Essendon comfortably and then need to set ourselves up for a big month or so ahead.

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                          Originally posted by barry
                          There is a theory that Brisbane was able to dominate in the midfield because they had an extra, while our extra was back in defense covering any problems with Aliir.

                          In which case its a poor strategy. Against Essendon you'd hope we roll the dice and play man on man throughout the whole ground.
                          I reckon that 'theory' is a total insult to Aliir.
                          Swannies for life!

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                          • aguy
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 1324

                            #28
                            Out: Robinson Sinclair
                            In: Smith Nankervis

                            Let Sinclair have a week off to recover even if his knee is 70%.

                            Robinson hasn't done anything wrong in fact he's been quite good. I would just manage him a little and let jones have another senior game for continuity. With smith back he can marshal the defence a bit more and give direction to aliir along with reg and Ramps. McVeigh can then play more through the mids and forward like Robinson has been doing.

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                            • bandwagon
                              Regular in the Side
                              • May 2003
                              • 531

                              #29
                              Originally posted by aguy
                              Out: Robinson Sinclair
                              In: Smith Nankervis

                              Let Sinclair have a week off to recover even if his knee is 70%.

                              Robinson hasn't done anything wrong in fact he's been quite good. I would just manage him a little and let jones have another senior game for continuity. With smith back he can marshal the defence a bit more and give direction to aliir along with reg and Ramps. McVeigh can then play more through the mids and forward like Robinson has been doing.
                              This makes sense to me.
                              Even with our very young team we *should* beat Essendon.
                              However our form line hasn't been good - we just played our worst game of the year. A glitch, or has our early season form flattered to deceive?

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                              • Maltopia
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 1556

                                #30
                                Originally posted by aardvark
                                Rose probably deserves a game but that would give us 3 small forwards.
                                Rose is 6'1", I would say he was a medium sized forward?

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