They are at it again. GWS under the pump

[Nico]

If you read the whole article; at the end McGuire is backing off big time. Regardless of whether Pridham got it wrong, McGuire is now copping it from all angles and as good as said he is going to pull his head in. After all he did play the GWS/Riverina card. I think people saying he should look after his own back yard has hit a nerve, and he doesn't like the criticism. I don't trust him one bit.

[Ludwig]

McGuire brings everyone down into the gutter with him. I doubt if Pridham or Shepherd really want to engage in these low life exchanges, but at some point they must feel they are remiss if they don't say something. I remember that many on here were up in arms because they felt we didn't fight hard enough regarding the trading ban. When McGuire keeps punching the supporters of clubs taking the blows want their side to fight back.

[rb4x]

Halftime Carlton are leading Collingwood by 11. Eddie must love this.

[dejavoodoo44]

Halftime Carlton are leading Collingwood by 11. Eddie must love this.

If it gets any worse, I'll be tuning in just for the shots of Eddie.

[Mel_C]

Collingwood losing by 15 points with only seconds to go. Would love to see Eddie's face ????. Who he is going to have a go at this week??

[Sandridge]

Collingwood losing by 15 points with only seconds to go. Would love to see Eddie's face ??????. Who he is going to have a go at this week??

Yes, it's obviously not just GWS standing between Collingwood and a premiership! Needs to worry about his own club first!

[Nico]

And Jessie White playing back was one of their best players. They are in more strife than the early explorers.

[Mug Punter]

McGuire brings everyone down into the gutter with him. I doubt if Pridham or Shepherd really want to engage in these low life exchanges, but at some point they must feel they are remiss if they don't say something. I remember that many on here were up in arms because they felt we didn't fight hard enough regarding the trading ban. When McGuire keeps punching the supporters of clubs taking the blows want their side to fight back.

I'd prefer Pridham to be a little less emotional but on the whole I agree with him calling up Eddie out re his antics.

Just loving the fact they are 2-5 with one of their wins being a steal against the tigers and the other being over the Bombers

[Mug Punter]

Sure the Giants got a lot of draft and other concessions as a start up club. They couldn't let them wallow in the doldrums and hope for success in 30 years. So now this club, the coaches, administrators and players have had their biggest victory smashing the reigning premiers. Can they take a moment to enjoy the victory after 5 years of struggle? No. Eddie has come to spoil the party by making the big story of the week the 'unfair' academy zone concessions that may yield some top talent in the draft in November. The Riverina had nothing to do with the Giants beating Hawthorn. Why can't the players just feel good about themselves and their victory? There's actually a footy season going on. We can deal with this later.

Same thing with the Swans. We're winning because we have an unfair advantage because of the COLA. Big issue right in the middle of the season. Get a good player FA, then slap on a trading ban. Someone looks good coming up through our academy, it has to be debated now. Can't wait till the end of the season. Let's knock down the Swans before he even plays a game.

Eddie is such a divisive and destructive force in football. He does everything at the wrong time and targets the wrong parties. It's not about the merits of the Riverina zone going to GWS. It's about the merits of having a club president and media personality dominating the football agenda whenever he so pleases and an AFL Commission too weak to do anything about it.

+1

[Bloods05]

Sure the Giants got a lot of draft and other concessions as a start up club. They couldn't let them wallow in the doldrums and hope for success in 30 years. So now this club, the coaches, administrators and players have had their biggest victory smashing the reigning premiers. Can they take a moment to enjoy the victory after 5 years of struggle? No. Eddie has come to spoil the party by making the big story of the week the 'unfair' academy zone concessions that may yield some top talent in the draft in November. The Riverina had nothing to do with the Giants beating Hawthorn. Why can't the players just feel good about themselves and their victory? There's actually a footy season going on. We can deal with this later.

Same thing with the Swans. We're winning because we have an unfair advantage because of the COLA. Big issue right in the middle of the season. Get a good player FA, then slap on a trading ban. Someone looks good coming up through our academy, it has to be debated now. Can't wait till the end of the season. Let's knock down the Swans before he even plays a game.

Eddie is such a divisive and destructive force in football. He does everything at the wrong time and targets the wrong parties. It's not about the merits of the Riverina zone going to GWS. It's about the merits of having a club president and media personality dominating the football agenda whenever he so pleases and an AFL Commission too weak to do anything about it.

Didn't agree about Rebecca's piece, but I agree with this 100%.

[Bloods05]

Yes, Ludwig, I thought that it was interesting that she more or less describes the reasons why he may be suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, without actually explicitly stating that she thinks that he's a full on narcissist. And of course, for Eddie, and many other high profile, opinion forming media types, the diagnosis of NPD is probably on the money. That is, he displays the typical narcissistic traits of an inflated view of one's own self and the descent into paranoia if things if things don't go to plan.
With Eddie, this is probably the most evident when seen in the light of Collingwood's continual mediocrity. That is, the Collingwood football club, is possibly the thing that Eddie cares for most and a thing that he's put a huge amount of effort into over the years. And with the narcissist's excessive self regard, the last person that they blame if things don't go to plan, is themselves. So it's highly unlikely, that Eddie will be thinking that maybe there's something wrong with his management style. He probably is not thinking, that maybe he has given a long term contract to a crap coach. Nor would he be thinking that there might be something a bit wrong with his beloved Collingwood's culture. Instead, he will be looking for the unfair reasons why Collingwood are not in their rightful place at the top of the premiership tree.
So, ignoring all the advantages that both he and Collingwood have been given, he is now voicing his paranoia from his privileged media positions. We're not to blame; it's the fault of the northern academies, it's the fault of COLA payments, it's the fault of the draft system, etc, etc, etc.
And of course, during this process, he is also displaying another tell tale sign of the narcissist; that is, he has almost no sensitivity when it comes to how his comments may affect others, but a sense of outraged persecution when others reply to his comments.

NPD has been removed from the latest DSM because so many narcissists are high-functioning. True story.

[Velour&Ruffles]

Collingwood losing by 15 points with only seconds to go. Would love to see Eddie's face ????. Who he is going to have a go at this week??

It's delicious. Maybe he should focus his attention on his own club rather than every other club.

[Mug Punter]

It's delicious. Maybe he should focus his attention on his own club rather than every other club.

I agree, and how can Eddie on one hand criticise the strength of their list when he handed them TWO first round draft picks for Treloar. They really did back Bucks at the trade table and the cupboard is bare for this year's draft for the Pies but it would be hilarious if the Pies traded draft pick this year ends up being pick 2 or 3 with GWS finishing top 4.

I think they will nibble around at the eligibility rules as the current arrangements are a joke. And I don't think the Riverina should be a recruitment zone for GWS so really anything below Wagga is going to be contentious.

The Canberra, Western Sydney and Country NSW regions south of Sydney to Wagga provide fertile opportunity for GWS to develop new AFL players just like we have done with Mills and Heeney who would have been lost to Union or the NRL had we not been there.

I'd be a lot more sympathetic of GWS if they had actually done any development work in western Sydney at all and the reality is they run a few clinics for PR but they have no real grassroots presence at all. And I really do think this is a disgraceful situation - there is absolutely no reason why within 10 years places like Penrith and Campbelltown cannot be producing senior AFL players but at th emoment GWS have no interest in doing the hard yards at all.

And I don't particularly like their Chairman Shepherd much either, he is very political and quite conflicted but his access to power could be important for the NSW/Qld clubs. He is also Chairman of the SCG Trust and I wrote him a letter outlining my intense disappointment at the treatment of Adam Goodes last year and the fact that the SCG showed him no support after being vilified by a serving Trustee (Alan Jones).

His response was patronsing and arrogant in the extreme. He's in this game for the prestige and power and not the interest of the game.

[barry]

If the academies are purely to get AFL playerss out of non AFL areas then the line should be along the murrimbidgee river not the Murray. If However the goal is to get NSW kids playing for NSW clubs then it's fine how it is. GWS Is a cambera team too.

[Luke Shannon]

I agree, and how can Eddie on one hand criticise the strength of their list when he handed them TWO first round draft picks for Treloar. They really did back Bucks at the trade table and the cupboard is bare for this year's draft for the Pies but it would be hilarious if the Pies traded draft pick this year ends up being pick 2 or 3 with GWS finishing top 4.

I think they will nibble around at the eligibility rules as the current arrangements are a joke. And I don't think the Riverina should be a recruitment zone for GWS so really anything below Wagga is going to be contentious.

The Canberra, Western Sydney and Country NSW regions south of Sydney to Wagga provide fertile opportunity for GWS to develop new AFL players just like we have done with Mills and Heeney who would have been lost to Union or the NRL had we not been there.

I'd be a lot more sympathetic of GWS if they had actually done any development work in western Sydney at all and the reality is they run a few clinics for PR but they have no real grassroots presence at all. And I really do think this is a disgraceful situation - there is absolutely no reason why within 10 years places like Penrith and Campbelltown cannot be producing senior AFL players but at th emoment GWS have no interest in doing the hard yards at all.

And I don't particularly like their Chairman Shepherd much either, he is very political and quite conflicted but his access to power could be important for the NSW/Qld clubs. He is also Chairman of the SCG Trust and I wrote him a letter outlining my intense disappointment at the treatment of Adam Goodes last year and the fact that the SCG showed him no support after being vilified by a serving Trustee (Alan Jones).

His response was patronsing and arrogant in the extreme. He's in this game for the prestige and power and not the interest of the game.

Mug, you would be able to help with this question.

Does the Swans Academy have the Northern Beaches as a recruitment zone?

The Giants have a foothold on the former Manly Wolves. If the Manly Junior club are producing the next 15 year old Tyrone Armatages or Connor Petterson's do they go to the GWS Acedemy or the Swans Acedemy?