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  • Bloody Hell
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2006
    • 3085

    #31
    Originally posted by ugg
    Tippett - hamstring tendon, "up to six weeks"
    Marsh - hamstring, will miss against the Dees
    Rohan - fitness test, expected to play
    Reid - three weeks
    If you consider the physicallity of last weeks game, it's not suprising a few went down - particularly Tippett...he was huge last week.
    The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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    • aguy
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2014
      • 1324

      #32
      My changes for round 13

      Out: Tippett Marsh Rohan
      In: Naismith Richards Hewett

      Also in fight in the contest and defensive pressure with tackles that actually stick.

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      • Flying South
        Regular in the Side
        • Sep 2013
        • 585

        #33
        Melbourne were very impressive against Collingwood. So they can't be taken lightly. However, with an eye towards the backend of the season I don't think we should be taking any chances with Richards or Rohan. Give them another 2 weeks. Perfect opportunity to get 4 or 5 games into Naismith. He's been building fitness and form in the ressies.

        Naismith for Tippett
        Davis for Marsh
        Hewett for Rohan

        I am at a cross roads with McVeigh and McGlynn. Both appear to be struggling and I wonder if the game has caught up with them. If Papley is fit, he should come in for McGlynn. But Macca wont get dropped with Geelong, Bulldogs and Hawthorn on the horizon.

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        • Markus26
          On the Rookie List
          • Apr 2015
          • 147

          #34
          Originally posted by aguy
          My changes for round 13

          Out: Tippett Marsh Rohan
          In: Naismith Richards Hewett

          Also in fight in the contest and defensive pressure with tackles that actually stick.
          I like these changes but would like to see the Swans go one step further and drop McGlynn. I don't think he's offering enough at the moment. There might be more upside to someone like BJ. He hasn't had a crack this year.

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          • Markus26
            On the Rookie List
            • Apr 2015
            • 147

            #35
            Just read that Papley should be available. Maybe the extra run could be good. Go in with one ruckman instead of two?

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            • graemed
              Swans2win
              • Jan 2003
              • 410

              #36
              Just why does everyone think Marsh should be dropped?
              He did very well on Cameron when they moved Rampe into the midfield.
              I also worry about bringing Naismith in for Tippett although I'm sure that's what will happen. He just doesn't have enough grunt, and he's slow. I mean really slow. Gawn is not their only ruckman and Sinclair may be cooked after rucking against Mumford and Lobb for the whole second half.
              I'd like to see Allir come in and do a Goodes role from a few years ago. He can jump at ruck contests but his real strength would be to let him roam. It's working for Port.
              For me it would be Hewitt for Rohan, Allir for Tippett. Perhaps B Jack in for McGlynn but I doubt they'll drop him at least not yet.

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16778

                #37
                Originally posted by graemed
                Just why does everyone think Marsh should be dropped?
                He did very well on Cameron when they moved Rampe into the midfield.
                I also worry about bringing Naismith in for Tippett although I'm sure that's what will happen. He just doesn't have enough grunt, and he's slow. I mean really slow. Gawn is not their only ruckman and Sinclair may be cooked after rucking against Mumford and Lobb for the whole second half.
                I'd like to see Allir come in and do a Goodes role from a few years ago. He can jump at ruck contests but his real strength would be to let him roam. It's working for Port.
                For me it would be Hewitt for Rohan, Allir for Tippett. Perhaps B Jack in for McGlynn but I doubt they'll drop him at least not yet.
                Marsh has injured his hamstring and has already been ruled out by the club.

                Surprised by your observations on Naismith. He's still very inexperienced and he may not yet be fit enough. But for a young(ish) ruckman he has grunt enough, and he's reasonably quick for his height. Certainly quicker than Nankervis.

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                • graemed
                  Swans2win
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 410

                  #38
                  Originally posted by liz
                  Marsh has injured his hamstring and has already been ruled out by the club.

                  Surprised by your observations on Naismith. He's still very inexperienced and he may not yet be fit enough. But for a young(ish) ruckman he has grunt enough, and he's reasonably quick for his height. Certainly quicker than Nankervis.
                  Sorry Liz,

                  You're absolutely right, my mistake. Should have typed in Nankervis not Naismith. In respect of Naismith, I liked what I saw in reserves but I thought he could do with more time getting match fit.

                  Didn't realise Marsh was injured. In which case I would like to see Newman get his chance.

                  Still stand by my belief we need more mobility around the ground than either Sinclair or Nankervis can offer hence my theory on Allir.

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                  • RogueSwan
                    McVeigh for Brownlow
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 4602

                    #39
                    Originally posted by goswannies
                    Laidler may have been ordinary yesterday, but he's been serviceable most of the season. Knee-jerk demotion is not necessary
                    Agreed GS. Laidler has had a good season so far and wasn't the only one to have a @@@@ game last week. The way the ball was coming into the Giants F50 was difficult for a defender who is quite a bit shorter than his opposition.
                    With Tippett out we can hopefully see Sinclair step up with the responsibility of being the first ruck. It does seem to be the case for a number of big men that they play better when given more time and responsibility. It would have been the perfect time for Reid to come in for Tippett. This is were it shows how much we have missed LRT and have never been able to replace him.
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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      #40
                      I don't think Nanka is tall or agile enough to go with Max Gawn. This would be a game where if Tippo were fit I would bring in Naismith for Sinclair, but the footy gods seem to want to put Sam under the pump. So be it. He's nearly 24 and the 4th year on our list. He's playing well in the reserves. It's time to shine.

                      Richards wants to get straight back in the seniors and would seem a logical replacement for Marsh, but Ted has hardly played football this year. I think he should test himself out in the reserves for a couple of games. I would rather have Aliir come in for Marsh. At least Aliir has played a full season and is playing good consistent football in the reserves. He would probably get the matchup on Dawes.

                      I suppose Harry C will keep his spot in the side. He hasn't been doing much lately. I'd give him a tagging role on Ben Kennedy, who has been very damaging this year. If they can break even, I'd call it a win for us.

                      It sounds like Rohan will be okay to play. Maybe Hewett can come in for McGlynn. Papley would be handy, especially if conditions are wet.

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                      • longmile
                        Crumber
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 3367

                        #41
                        tmedia

                        Old son of ours, Tadhg Kennelley seems to think Tippett's injury will put our season into free fall

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          #42
                          Im in the camp that says ruckmen are replaceable.

                          As far as ruck duties go, I think sinclair can step up as no1 ruck, with support from nankervis. Only a minor loss.

                          However, its tippets around the ground marking that sets him above his replacements. But this can be overcome by the inclusion of Reid (when avaliable) and Ted.

                          The flag got a bit harder without Tippet, but we can still win it.

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                          • CureTheSane
                            Carpe Noctem
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 5032

                            #43
                            I agree with that.
                            We can replace a ruckman with less consequences than replacing Tippetts other work around the ground.
                            If our depth is tested, it is that work around the ground being tested rather than ruck duties.
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                            • Doctor
                              Bay 29
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 2757

                              #44
                              What I think will happen:-

                              Out: Tippett, Marsh
                              In: Naismith, Hewett

                              Weather forecast is vile btw.
                              Last edited by Doctor; 15 June 2016, 06:22 PM.
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                              • aardvark
                                Veterans List
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 5685

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Doctor
                                What I think will happen:-

                                Out: Tippett, Marsh
                                In: Naismith, Hewett

                                Weather forecast is vile btw.
                                I hate to say it but wouldn't we be better off with Towers as back up ruck than Nankervis if it's going to be a quagmire again?

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