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  • CureTheSane
    Carpe Noctem
    • Jan 2003
    • 5032

    Originally posted by AnnieH
    No, I didn't say that they are entitled to be over emotional as they don't know any better because of their age... you just said that.
    You're just twisting my words. Get off my back.
    Yeah....

    Read my previous posts.
    I have been defending you.

    That doesn't mean I'm going to tip toe around you when you contradict yourself.
    I haven't been anywhere near your back....
    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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    • penga
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 2601

      I was there.. And was so close to tears myself. My heart broke for the bloke.

      It's not just football.
      C'mon Chels!

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        From Will Hayward's Pocket Profile:

        Least-preferred teammate on road trips and why: Nic Newman – always flicks my ear


        The modern new age sensitive guy is a very complex animal.

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        • stevoswan
          Veterans List
          • Sep 2014
          • 8546

          Originally posted by AnnieH
          Stop putting words in my mouth.

          Yes, it's only footy. After they've finished playing footy, the universe willing, they have another 60 years ahead of them.

          The poor bloke damaged his good knee. I'm no expert, or sports doctor, or anything like that, but when I seriously damaged my left ankle 20 years ago, since then, I have ALWAYS preferred my right ankle in situations where I was a little uncertain on my feet, or I had to jump down a distance, and the like. This is what I am assuming AJ is doing when he plays. He felt himself going down and rather than the left knee take the brunt of the fall, he fell on the right.

          As to Nic crying... yes, he's his mate... yes, it IS very sad, but again... it's only a knee. Yes, it's sad that he's got to go through this @@@@ all over again... but he's not a paraplegic. He didn't lose a limb in war. He didn't break his neck (although I reckon McHack came very close to it)... it's footy. They are insured specifically for injury.
          There's another 70 years of life ahead of both of them. They're kids, they can't see that.

          At no point did I say, nor infer, that Nic was any less of a man because he was crying, that Nic was a "poof" because he was crying. At no point did I deride him. You all did that for me.
          This is the new-age man we all talk about. Someone who is not afraid to show his emotions in public, etc., blah, blah, blah. Get off my back.

          Maybe this is a blessing in disguise for AJ. Maybe he'll go onto much better, brighter and bigger things. Maybe he'll be governor general one day.
          It is devastating for him, and I wish him only the best.
          Well, that was a lot to write and digest. Would have probably been far easier to just admit you were a bit harsh and we all could have moved on.....never thought I'd see the day when a woman is not impressed with a bloke crying.

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          • stevoswan
            Veterans List
            • Sep 2014
            • 8546

            Originally posted by barry
            The case for AJ returning:
            It was his "good" leg, which has stood up to AFL/NEAFL for many years. In theory it should be no worse than a player having his first knee reco.

            If it was his "bad leg" then it would be career ending, because it would mean the leg is unfixable to survive AFL.
            That's how I've been looking at it, so I hope he goes on.....but wouldn't blame him if he chucks it in. It would be sad though......

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            • stevoswan
              Veterans List
              • Sep 2014
              • 8546

              Originally posted by goswannies
              Possibly. But it would be better and more appropriate in AJ’s possession than a supporter or memorabilia collector. Shame that the club didn’t give it to him rather than auctioning it off.
              I think the club should withdraw it from the auction and do just that. He deserves that as a trophy to his resilience and success (short lived as it was) of actually making it back.

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              • KTigers
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2012
                • 2499

                Originally posted by stevoswan
                .....never thought I'd see the day when a woman is not impressed with a bloke crying.
                Hey Stevo, think maybe you're on a slippery slope with this one man... like I was saying, some people get teary, some don't, it's
                probably not a big KPI in the greater scheme of things.

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                • Industrial Fan
                  Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 3317

                  Ajs Guernsey tracking at a higher price than buddy
                  He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                  • S.S. Bleeder
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 2165

                    Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                    Ajs Guernsey tracking at a higher price than buddy
                    It was at $1800 with a few minutes to go. Buddy's was a fraction less.

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                    • Industrial Fan
                      Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 3317

                      Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                      It was at $1800 with a few minutes to go. Buddy's was a fraction less.
                      Yep, I got it
                      He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                      • AnnieH
                        RWOs Black Sheep
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 11332

                        Originally posted by stevoswan
                        Well, that was a lot to write and digest. Would have probably been far easier to just admit you were a bit harsh and we all could have moved on.....never thought I'd see the day when a woman is not impressed with a bloke crying.
                        I'd be more impressed if he were vacuuming and cleaning the bathrooms.
                        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                        Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                        • S.S. Bleeder
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 2165

                          Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                          Yep, I got it
                          Nice. I got Juniors. For sentimental reasons more so than an investment. I bought it for my mum. Her dad wore no.12 in the 1918 premiership. I think AJs could turn out to be a good buy in the long run.

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                          • S.S. Bleeder
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 2165

                            Originally posted by stevoswan
                            Well, that was a lot to write and digest. Would have probably been far easier to just admit you were a bit harsh and we all could have moved on.....never thought I'd see the day when a woman is not impressed with a bloke crying.
                            Or, you and velour and ruffles could admit you were wrong for making assumptions that Annie inferred he was a poof when we all know she never said or inferred that? Then we can all move on.

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                            • neilfws
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1819

                              Getting back to the knee - interesting article this morning about LARS (mentions AJ, Shaw, Malceski), and how it's no longer seen as the miracle procedure.

                              Whatever happened to LARS? The miracle cure that was too good to be true - Sport - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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                              • goswannies
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 3048

                                Originally posted by neilfws
                                Getting back to the knee - interesting article this morning about LARS (mentions AJ, Shaw, Malceski), and how it's no longer seen as the miracle procedure.

                                Whatever happened to LARS? The miracle cure that was too good to be true - Sport - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
                                One thing that is often overlooked in the LARS debates is the initial intention of the graft.

                                LARS is an acronym for Ligament Augmentation and Reconstruction System. The artificial LARS graft can be used in one of two ways.

                                1) as a “stand alone” reconstruction (ie it’s a synthetic ligament that just replaces the torn ACL) in which case it’s similar to every other synthetic graft and prone to failure. The advantage is the quick recovery as stated in the article you linked. It’s also possibly better than the older carbon fibre synthetic grafts that degraded and left micro particles that the body reacted to.

                                2) LARS ligaments can be used in conjunction with suturing to the remaining section of the ruptured ligament (or perhaps augmenting an autologous patella tendon / hamstring graft). This is the true benefit of a LARS graft. You get the benefit of early strength provided by the synthetic ligament when the healing ACL is biologically at its weakest, but you will get the strength of a fully healed ACL at later stages of rehab when a synthetic graft may not be strong enough to withstand the rigours of sport.

                                Unfortunately it was more commonly used the first way.

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