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  • Danzar
    I'm doing ok right now, thanks
    • Jun 2006
    • 2027

    #16
    Originally posted by Ludwig
    A copy of the original statement is on the NM Big Footy website. The original statement had the words 'low impact to the body.' The statement was later revised and the word 'head' was substituted for 'body'. Every other player involved in a similar incident this year got at least 2 weeks. It seems to me that Sicily took the rap for Mitchell and Rioli since he hasn't been playing well and was likely to be dropped anyway.

    It's hard to tell if the Mitchell hit was with a closed fist or open hand, but seems to be a hit rather than a push, as the motion looks continuous. But the MRP have other videos I believe.

    Could you just imagine the outcry if Adam Goodes had been let off for either one of those incidents.
    Ok, so this gets interesting. In changing its Statement in this way, I think the MRP has changed its decision....AFTER it has met. Does this happen often? Surely this cannot be a printing error. They meet, review and take a record of it. Are they saying they got their decision wrong?

    A deliberate hip and shoulder that makes contact with the body = no charge, that I know. What happens when it's the head? I thought that is an automatic suspension, the severity of which is determined by the medical report and whether the player impacted remains on the ground?

    What I'n getting at is whether it's body or head, their decision is quite bizarre in both scenarios. This was pointed out across the Internet, so the MRP subsequently changes their decision to the least of the two?

    There's quite a few other lines to read between on this, but I won't go there. Perhaps it was really a typo [emoji51][emoji51]


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    • goswannies
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2007
      • 3048

      #17
      Originally posted by Meg
      Mitch Morton
      Dermie
      Barry Mitchell
      Glenn Coleman
      Bernard Toohey
      Jim Edmond
      Spider

      our list goes on & on

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        #18
        Originally posted by Danzar

        There's quite a few other lines to read between on this, but I won't go there. Perhaps it was really a typo
        It was a bad day at the office at the MRP. They will have to start drug testing the typists soon.

        Apparently someone named Corsica was suspended for a week, but was revised later to read Sicily.

        They also misspelled the word 'punch' as 'slap'.

        Oh well. I'm sure they'll get it fixed up by the time someone NOT from Hawthorn is reported.

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        • Meg
          Go Swannies!
          Site Admin
          • Aug 2011
          • 4828

          #19
          Originally posted by Danzar
          What happens when it's the head? I thought that is an automatic suspension, the severity of which is determined by the medical report and whether the player impacted remains on the ground? [emoji51]
          No, don't think that's right. Careless/high/low impact = a fine. It has to be at least medium impact and high/groin to be a suspension.

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          • ScottH
            It's Goodes to cheer!!
            • Sep 2003
            • 23665

            #20
            Originally posted by Meg
            Mitch Morton
            BBBBH!!

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            • AnnieH
              RWOs Black Sheep
              • Aug 2006
              • 11332

              #21
              # freekickhawthorn
              Business.
              As usual.
              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                #22
                There's a discussion on the Rioli decision with former umpire Derek-Humphrey Smith on SEN.

                Listen Here: https://www.sen.com.au/audio

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                • Ludwig
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                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  #23
                  MRP decision:



                  Rioli is still moving forward, the ball is behind him, and he's knocked a bigger player than himself backwards and off his feet.

                  Conclusion: Low Impact

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                  • Billericay
                    Regular in the Side
                    • May 2013
                    • 712

                    #24
                    The Umpires View: Cyril should have been suspended

                    Last edited by RogueSwan; 9 August 2016, 08:14 PM. Reason: rule 7c

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                    • Danzar
                      I'm doing ok right now, thanks
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 2027

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Billericay
                      The Umpires View: Cyril should have been suspended

                      https://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/08-1...cW0UUm4VZgO.97
                      And:

                      Humphery-Smith also confirmed the MRP sent out two separate press releases with different grading.


                      This is exactly what I was getting at last night. This clearly shows they have engineered the decision for the lowest possible outcome, realised the lowest actually created an error, then switched it but kept the same penalty. If that's not blatant tweaking of the system to suit Hawthorn, I don't know what is.
                      Last edited by Danzar; 9 August 2016, 10:12 PM. Reason: Whoops, my bad for posting the article
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                      • Nico
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11328

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        MRP decision:



                        Rioli is still moving forward, the ball is behind him, and he's knocked a bigger player than himself backwards and off his feet.

                        Conclusion: Low Impact
                        Photos can be deceptive old mate. Years ago the Football Record had an action photo each week without a football in view. The competition was to cut the photo out and put a cross where you thought the footy was and send it in. I think the prize was a Sherrin. The pic with the footy was posted in next week's record. It was very hard to pick where the footy was.
                        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                        • snajik
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1115

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Nico
                          Photos can be deceptive old mate. Years ago the Football Record had an action photo each week without a football in view. The competition was to cut the photo out and put a cross where you thought the footy was and send it in. I think the prize was a Sherrin. The pic with the footy was posted in next week's record. It was very hard to pick where the footy was.
                          Spot the Ball competition I believe it was called.
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                          • Ludwig
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                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9359

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Nico
                            Photos can be deceptive old mate. Years ago the Football Record had an action photo each week without a football in view. The competition was to cut the photo out and put a cross where you thought the footy was and send it in. I think the prize was a Sherrin. The pic with the footy was posted in next week's record. It was very hard to pick where the footy was.
                            You caught me out, mate. I was just showing off my Photoshop skills. The original photo showed Rioli on the ground with Oliver standing over him. Not bad, eh?

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                            • Nico
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 11328

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              You caught me out, mate. I was just showing off my Photoshop skills. The original photo showed Rioli on the ground with Oliver standing over him. Not bad, eh?
                              And sticking the boots in. Fair dinkum Rioli gets a bad rap.
                              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                              • Ludwig
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                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Nico
                                And sticking the boots in. Fair dinkum Rioli gets a bad rap.
                                I love Roili. Everyone loves Rioli. He certainly doesn't get a bad rap. The effusive praise he receives may not even be excessive, but just relentless and boring.

                                To he honest, I think the penalty on Rioli was fair. It's just that whenever there seems to be a benefit of the doubt to be given or not given, Hawthorn always seem to get the benefit. It was a good week to make that point.

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